Yes, because DRG and DRK can't easily cap ACC on merit mobs without homam feet and couldn't make better use out of ATT+5 haste+3% boots?Originally Posted by Loren
Yes, because DRG and DRK can't easily cap ACC on merit mobs without homam feet and couldn't make better use out of ATT+5 haste+3% boots?Originally Posted by Loren
That would be like... 1% more damage per hit--on the mobs that don't matter--for 5 million gil.Yes, because DRG and DRK can't easily cap ACC on merit mobs without homam feet and couldn't make better use out of ATT+5 haste+3% boots?
On the other hand, Acc+6 is at least a 3-4% increase on any evasion-buffed or tougher-than-merit mob.
All the DRK and DRG I know swear by their red booties, I'll let them hammer out the details.
For THF it's pretty simple at least.
Homam Boots really kill AF2 booties, as everyone said. Unfortunately, I was stuck with AF2 for a long ass time (Homam Boots would either never drop, or would drop when I could not lot, or I would lose lot, it was kinda funny after a while.) But, since I completed my Homam, my AF2 booties have been put into my MH forever.
As for the Homam boots on DRK and DRG, well, I recently finished my DRK (total lack of merits, but hey, I got myself some decent gear for a job I have not used in 2 months.) And, honestly, I love these boots for my DRK, absolutely love being able to stack that much Haste on that job.
On DRK, especially on things like Mamools, it is hard to have a high haste build, eat meat, and still have really good accuracy. I would take 6acc over 5atk for TPing in a haste build anyway since I'm already sacrificing enough of it. As far as I'm concerned, Homam Feet are the best TP feet for DRK... can't see them being topped by anything for the others either; although I don't know BLU.
I'm stuck with poulaines at the moment :/ My friend's awesome enough to loan me dusk+1 whenever, but yeah. My shell gets pants/feet by the truckload, but I keep passing them to PLDs and others that are 0/5 or 1/5 or so, where as I'm 3/5. After 2 more pairs I'll finally accept mine, for now I'm all right.
Like people have said, haste > all. Interestingly enough, I wasn't aware TA had dimenishing returns... the more you know I guess.
/Originally Posted by Tdizzle
Correction:Originally Posted by Loren
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6 posts too late Vegetto.
I currently use Skadi boots for TP on COR/BST/THF; hopefully this doesn't make me a bad person. I really don't use any of the relevant jobs enough to justify lotting Homam (at least not until a ton of other people get it) or buying Dusk (and definitely not +1). I guess I could use Dusk on all my jobs in some capacity (except WHM), but I really am on BRD most of the time, and I have other spending priorities.Originally Posted by ninjafox
(Before you ask, Homam is a lot more contested than Skadi feet; not everyone in my LS does Salvage, and most don't do it as often as I do. Plus all the PLDs are after Homam too; we have many PLDs and few people-with-Skadi-jobs-who-do-Salvage.)
DRG here.
I'd still wear Homam Gambieras over Dusk Ledelsen+1.
...and my weapon has +20 ACC.
5 ATK isn't going to amount to very much versus anything but the very basest of merit mobs, and Homam Gambieras trumps it in everything that's harder.
Originally Posted by Rhealana
Please read bolded/underlined textOriginally Posted by Loren
And if your weapon has 20 acc, then the acc from homam feet going to make even LESS of a difference. I don't see how that helps your point. Also, drg is the most accurate melee in the game with the dex/acc update AND 2 acc bonus job traits.
Summed up the dusk+1 argument very nicely. Not everyone with drg levelled uses it only on trivial mobs, and i sure as shit wouldnt spend 5m for 5att just to use on Colibri and City namis mobs.That would be like... 1% more damage per hit--on the mobs that don't matter--for 5 million gil. On the other hand, Acc+6 is at least a 3-4% increase on any evasion-buffed or tougher-than-merit mob.![]()
The extra HP for you're wyvern probly amounts to more dmg than attk+5
I'm no drg so idk. My point was saying the previous quote was most likely falseOriginally Posted by XxSlusherxx
Don't see 6 acc and wyvern HP makin that huge of an impact.by a ridiculously wide margin no matter what your setup looks like.
+50 wyvern HP will add 9 damage to an UNRESISTED breath attack (they are resisted more often than not), and only if you WS in them, and only if the wyvern is at max hp. Really not very practical, I'm sure a drg is better off WSing in rutters or heca.Originally Posted by XxSlusherxx
I stand by my inflammatory hyperbole! I was referring to Homam's greatness in the overall sense.
Item used against real mobs that's free >>> Item used against trash mobs that costs 5 mil and slows you down
Are there mobs where your acc is 95% naturally and Atk+5 will affect anything? (honest question)
I don't know if I've ever seen a DRG in Assailant Ring instead of Sniper, for example.
Why would anyone use an assailant's ring over a flame/triumph, especially a 2hander?Originally Posted by Loren
Dusk can be just as or even more free than homam. I'm not trying to say that they're better. What i'm trying to say is that you were incorrect with your statement that they are so much better and how wide of a margin they are apart. Those 30ks all add up every time you go to limbus so I don't see how Homam are free. And if you absolutely wanted to you could go solo/duo behemoth and just keep crafting until you get them.
Thats...taking it a bit too far and stretching it.
The key point is
Take job A with homam feet
Take job B with Dusk feet+1
Job A and Job B are the same job
Job A and Job B have idencial gear/merits in every way execpt feet.
Job A and Job B are idencial in race.
Is total bullshit. How much of a "ridiculously wide margin" is Job A going to win by?Originally Posted by Cream Soda