Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

[ByeByeTasai]

Somebody else had posted something about maybe a THF hitting Flee and Accomplice right when Manafont goes off and run away. This might work if he casts Comet before Meteor, but I doubt he'd make it far enough if Meteor is the first spell he casts.

[Zoot]

Nsx ,we did exactly that. When the Aerns unclaimed or lost hate, AV would often two hour. But we couldn't find anything solid because at other times, he would two hour anyways.

[siknoz]

all in all it was a combo effort of many linkshells and a few nabs ruined it for everyone by constantly pulling it and cfh'ing it

Was I one of the nabs? :'(

lul nah dude i mean the people from bindinghonor honurablesouls and linkshells like that that just came to poke fun and get a screen shot of them getting a medusa javelin in the ass lol that ruined it for the rest. mind you you musta lost put loads of xp tonite lol

I lost about 12k xp on my pld, and about 7k on my smn.

But I was actually trying stuff out...almost got the ss's ready.

[nsx]

So you would need say 3 rdms to hold 1 aern each to keep them red the whole time?

Or am I off on how it works? It seems risky to have them repopping if it instantly does a 2hr when they pop or go white.

edit - good info btw.

What I mean by this isn't to totally turn off 2hrs but if whatever can be done to lessen the amount of them he does, the better obviously

[ByeByeTasai]

It seems like Graveyard Shift on Phoenix server had a theory about the Aern's deciding what 2hrs he can use. They were firm believers of this until the next time they fought AV and it all changed up. So unless the "readies" vs "uses" 2hrs are the correlation their I'm starting to doubt Aern's jobs have anything to do with his 2hrs. And besides the original hint was that his 2hrs were directly tied to the number of remaining monsters.

I was also thinking last night that the number 3 might be involved in some way. 3 Om'Aerns at the site, 3 JoL pets each summon, and 3 Wynavs until bracelet mode. But once again I can't begin to piece together anything from the video concerning the number 3 without making myself sound like a complete retard. And the way the video and new observations are coming I'm starting to question the translations of the SE Interviews.

[Zoot]

Every time we tried this it was disaster. I am rather confused about that seeing as they were so far and yet at times AV would use two hours as soon as they lost hate or woke up, like clockwork, and yet AV also seemed to use the two hours of the mobs that were close to him....

One thing that was also very interesting.

Our first real test with two hours gave us our longest run without an extremelly damaging AV two hour. This combination was PLD and RDM after Invincible. It was followed by Soul Voice, Call Wyvren, Invincible, Soul Voice, Call Wyvren, Blood Weapon, Mighty Strikes and finally Manafont.

By the way, yes that would work. We had BRD, RDM and BLM keeping them.

I honestly believe the combination in which you use your two hours may be tied to which two hours he uses. I also don't think you have to use your two hour right as AV does, but that ordering them and using them in patterns is they key to changing with two hours AV rotates. But I have NO real hard facts about this and we didn't test it alot, and I'm probably going to regret throwing that theory out there before having tested it in the morn-late afternoon lol.

[Sifer]

one thing i didn't pay much attention to, i'm sure someone else knows the answer to this

when AV has wynav's out, does he melee at all, or does he let his wynav's melee and he only uses magic/2 hours? i ask because during every sac hold i've witnessed, the sac'r always dies by a wynav, and AV never throws a punch, just curious if it's important or not

I think its clear from skinoz's screenshot that he does, wynavs hit alot faster tho.

[ismarc]

I got about 45 minutes of the initial testing that was going on on Seraph in unfiltered chatlog. I've gone through some of it, figured I'd post it now. Rather than posting the entire 3 meg file (no screenshots, was a log dump basically), I've editted out a large amount. What I've done is looked for key points and then gone to the last melee swing by Absolute Virtue, then posted everything in between.


10:12:57 1 of Keichan's shadows absorbs the damage and disappears.
10:12:58 Fill starts casting Cure III on Danerys.
10:12:58 Lhexh starts casting Water II on Absolute Virtue.
10:13:00 Hank uses Elemental Seal.
10:13:00 Absolute Virtue uses Call Wyvern.
10:13:06 Lhexh casts Water II.
10:13:06 Absolute Virtue takes 98 points of damage.


10:13:55 Absolute Virtue hits Lhexh for 479 points of damage.
10:13:55 Zoot starts casting Refresh on Soloo
10:13:56 Danerys casts Utsusemi: Ni.
10:13:56 Danerys gains the effect of Copy Image.
10:13:56 Pasutaxx starts casting Stoneskin on Pasutaxx.
10:13:56 Madou casts Stoneskin.
10:13:56 Madou gains the effect of Stoneskin.
10:13:57 Xor starts casting Stoneskin on Xor.
10:13:58 Zoot casts Refresh.
10:13:58 Soloo gains the effect of Refresh.
10:13:58 Absolute Virtue uses Perfect Dodge.

10:15:06 Absolute Virtue casts Aero V.
10:15:06 Danerys takes 1358 points of damage.
10:15:07 Kefk casts Blizzard IV.
10:15:07 The Om'aern takes 1066 points of damage
10:15:09 Sylphet starts casting Cure III on Zoot.
10:15:09 Iria starts casting Refresh on Kefk.
10:15:09 Keaton casts Stoneskin.
10:15:09 Keaton gains the effect of Stoneskin.
10:15:09 Soloo starts casting Flash on Absolute Virtue.
10:15:10 Fill starts casting Shellra II on Fill
10:15:10 Absolute Virtue readies Impact Stream.
10:15:11 Absolute Virtue hits Sylphet for 473 points of damage.
10:15:11 Tenbatsu casts Thunder IV.
10:15:11 The Om'aern takes 1035 points of damage.
10:15:11 Fill casts Protectra II.
10:15:11 Fill gains the effect of Protect.
10:15:11 Danerys was defeated by Absolute Virtue.
10:15:11 Sylphet's casting is interrupted.
10:15:12 Keichan uses a Reraise hairpin.
10:15:12 Hank gains the effect of Protect.
10:15:12 Iria casts Refresh.
10:15:12 Kefk gains the effect of Refresh.
10:15:13 Abaddon starts casting Gravity on the Om'aern
10:15:13 Madou casts Thunder IV.
10:15:13 The Om'aern takes 1067 points of damage.
10:15:13 No effect on Iria.
10:15:14 Soloo casts Flash.
10:15:14 Absolute Virtue is blinded.
10:15:14 Tenbatsu defeats the Om'aern.
10:15:14 Abaddon casts Gravity.
10:15:14 The Om'aern is weighed down.
10:15:15 Absolute Virtue uses Impact Stream
<abbreviated list, multiple people hit, 2 take 0 points of damage, 1 is defeated>
10:15:17 Janglotron casts Reraise.
10:15:17 Janglotron gains the effect of Reraise.
10:15:17 Soloo starts casting Utsusemi: Ni on Soloo.
10:15:17 Zoot starts casting Cure IV on Soloo.
10:15:18 Fill casts Shellra II.
10:15:18 Fill gains the effect of Shell.
10:15:18 Xor starts casting Mage's Ballad on Xor.
10:15:19 Soloo casts Utsusemi: Ni.
10:15:19 Soloo gains the effect of Copy Image.
10:15:19 Zoot casts Cure IV.
10:15:19 Soloo recovers 431 HP.
10:15:19 Tenbatsu starts casting Blizzard IV on the Om'aern.
10:15:19 No effect on Iria.
10:15:21 Darkwill uses a Kingdom Signet staff.
10:15:21 Fill starts casting Cure III on Madou.
10:15:21 Abaddonn starts casting Thunder IV on the Om'aern.
10:15:22 Hank gains the effect of Shell.
10:15:22 Miggy starts casting Burst II on the Om'aern.
10:15:22 The Om'aern starts casting Blaze Spikes.
10:15:23 Absolute Virtue uses Manafont.
10:15:23 Iria starts casting Refresh on Iria.

10:19:09 Iorika uses Shadowbind.
10:19:09 Absolute Virtue is bound.
<Iorika runs away from Absolute Virtue, out of melee and magic range>
<only other actions taken are those with no hate and buffing themselves>
<List of used actions: ballad II, cure II, shell II, goddess' hymnus, reraise III, raise III, raise, cure III, mage's ballad>
<Absolute Virtue moving again, gets to the opening, like crosses the threshold and...>
10:19:53 Absolute Virtue uses Perfect Dodge.

<Absolute Virtue was dragged out of range to the north>
<the following occurred as I decided to test it as it came back>
<Note that AV is yellow and no one has any hate on it at all>
10:21:46 Ismarc starts casting Dia II on Absolute Virtue.
10:21:54 Ismarc casts Dia II.
10:21:54 Absolute Virtue takes 1 point of damage.
10:21:55 1 of Ismarc's shadows absorbs the damage and disappears.
10:21:57 Absolute Virtue hits Ismarc for 482 points of damage.
10:21:58 Absolute Virtue's Dia effect wears off.
10:21:59 Ismarc was defeated by Absolute Virtue.


There's a LOT more info there, and I got maybe 1/3 of their testing. I'll post stuff as I have it available, and there's too little to draw real conclusions from so far.

[Reality]

Somebody else had posted something about maybe a THF hitting Flee and Accomplice right when Manafont goes off and run away. This might work if he casts Comet before Meteor, but I doubt he'd make it far enough if Meteor is the first spell he casts.

doesn't he generally do
Comet
Comet
Comet
Meteor

after manafont? that's what he did to us this morning

[Zoot]

By the way. Seeing as we got no "Readies two hour" and we used only one accidental sentinel on the last "let's mpk ourselves" attempt, and the first "Whut don't use shield bash?" attempt, we can consider it a strong possibility that "Readies" two hours are reactionary two hours.

[SamanosukeShiva]

I noticed in SE's dev's video, they did not use WS at all for the duration of the fight until the very end for kill shot. The SAM did Meikyo Shisui midfight and he did not WS at all. can you guys think any reason for this?

[ByeByeTasai]

There was a Screenshot in the last pages I think where he Manafont > Meteor.

[Tricen]

I noticed in SE's dev's video, they did not use WS at all for the duration of the fight until the very end for kill shot. The SAM did Meikyo Shisui midfight and he did not WS at all. can you guys think any reason for this?

Read the hueg thread, it was mentioned there... A lot....

[Reality]

There was a Screenshot in the last pages I think where he Manafont > Meteor.

just watched him manafont and he went
comet
comet
meteor

not arguing abotu the screenshot you mentioned, just posting info

[byte]

Why did Darkhearts remove their video? Did they kill it or got close and now trying to cover up the strategy? Does anyone have a mirror of this video? Thanks

[Babekeke]

Am I the only one that noticed in the video, as soon as the dust cloud appears for the 2 hour, melees disengage and rdm casts sleep? I haven't seen anyone mention it in any of the threads so far (though I haven't read any thread the whole way through).
This was probably the Dev team's way of dealing with the 2 hours. keep him asleep until his 2 hour wears off ^^

[Izzy]

Am I the only one that noticed in the video, as soon as the dust cloud appears for the 2 hour, melees disengage and rdm casts sleep? I haven't seen anyone mention it in any of the threads so far (though I haven't read any thread the whole way through).
This was probably the Dev team's way of dealing with the 2 hours. keep him asleep until his 2 hour wears off ^^

If you can figure out how to sleep AV, let us know.

[Demonsparta]

Every time I've seen Manafont, he's done Comet -> Meteor. >.> Nothing after that, can you guess why?!?

[Reality]

Every time I've seen Manafont, he's done Comet -> Meteor. >.> Nothing after that, can you guess why?!?

obviously he's out of mp.





.............. -_-

[Izzy]

Every time I've seen Manafont, he's done Comet -> Meteor. >.> Nothing after that, can you guess why?!?

obviously he's out of mp.





.............. -_-

ahahahhaah