Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

[Tajin]

Aerns just poped and av used manafont.

Set the bots to 5 minutes people! Seriously tho, that sucks :<

[Jelto]

We can now say that even if you dont use JAs or wrong nukes he will still 2hour. Also aerns must have something to do with AV unless it was just random bs.

[Tygiuu]

We can now say that even if you dont use JAs or wrong nukes he will still 2hour. Also aerns must have something to do with AV unless it was just random bs.

But seriously, try and Grav/Silence, just 1 Wynav for me? ;x

[Fyrebrand]

maybe just move the aerns away from the area maybe to the point you cant see what happens to them in the chat log and just keep them up or something to prevent possible pop 2hrs.

[Zoot]

I don't know. Fealty came out in the new merit patch. I don't think SE would have made it so that you would have to have a new merit to survive through meteor. Especially since they used some red mage tanks. If you can, it'd only be a means to survive a bit longer for testing, it isn't an answer to meteor I think.

Anything is worth a shot though. I was thinking recently that we shouldn't just try out one theory once anyways. Sometimes there's outside data that messes up the test. Like watching demos video, he didn't use Manafont when everyone blew their two hours as far as I know. He also used invincible after a paladin did, but I don't think that much matters, because it's not about locking all two hours I think.

Also wow at the aerns popping and AV using manafont.....if we can get a few more of these instances we can confirm that 1 aern pop in the ??? area = manafont...

[Ramuhnub]

About the pld's resisting metoer thing
That's 500 dmg with all the -dmg gear you can get, including aegis?

The pld's in the vid were using Earth Staff so I'm pretty sure they just didn't outright eat meteor... He never casted it but if you have aegis, why use staff? Maybe theres something to this, otherwise you'd need to stop him from meteoring

With Aegis and capped Shell V I think you reach he 50% magic reduction cap? Which means after that point gear with - (insert number)% magic damage is worthless, only MDB gear will further reduce magic damage... There's the HQ Coral set that has some on it... RDMs can wear it too, think with Shell V and rings/earrings it would bring you close to cap if not cap it out? Don't know how practical that would be though >_>. I think they used Staff to show that you did not need an army of Aegis PLDs to tank AV, it would aslo be a straight -20% Physical damage vs a chance to Block with a shield to reduce damage~

[Lordender]

get the time between when the fight actually started to the time it manafont?

[Jelto]

Going to try to do something about aerns. Kiting them away probably.

[*Shinzon*]

quick note, we fought it out away near where the ??? was, regened to 100% immediately after taking magic damage. Moved it to the ??? spawn and regen was considerably slowed.

[rex_garuda]

compressing vid as we speak while two boxing sacpuller and myself

[Tygiuu]

Also wow at the aerns popping and AV using manafont.....if we can get a few more of these instances we can confirm that 1 aern pop in the ??? area = manafont...

And if this is the case, we can sucessfully confirm the strat for making him not Manafont (In refferance to the Se video) is to kite them or hold them elsewhere so they don't pop and trigger Manafont.

Explains why they're not there in the SE video.

So as to say, the fight isn't really with AV, it's with his counterparts that are ssssssscattered accross sea.

GL on whatever you find out!

[failure]

Try kiting aerns out of AV spot and holding them right before you kill JoL. He can probably use the 2 hours of mobs still in memory but dead.

[Clynt]

someone recorded a video, pretty sure he's uploading it lol.. but ya, a couple people did use shield bash throughout the fight for whatever reason, but it wasn't in the middle of a 2 hr and didn't retaliate with one immediately so dunno.

[Zoot]

Well, we did that too. We kited them far away and held them there. But AV still used a two hour when they woke up. He also used Manafont seemingly unprovoked. However I do think it is a good idea to try it again.

[Nagamaki]

Absolute Virtue's spells are all basically instant cast, but there is a delay between them even while in Manafont, only a few seconds but its enough that he won't cast Meteor every 2 seconds during it. The PLD certainly might end up dead anyway (out of MP or unable to keep up), but it'll take some time before he dies, time for everyone else to run the fuck away. AV's Manafont will then wear off as he's running towards the other tanks, they grab him and go back into position, the PLD who's Fealty is now down sits out a bit and another PLD is in charge of handling the next MF.

And it doesn't matter that Fealty didn't exist with CoP, Shellra V and lots of other stuff didn't either, doesn't means we can't use what's been added as tools.

[Tygiuu]

Probably a good idea to have anyone by AV have their trigger on the 2HR too. The more tests we get, the more disecting and ability we have to make a path to defeat the undefeatable. :D

[Fyrebrand]

where did you kite them too? was it still on the land or all the way out to the water? because i think if the killing them was needed you would see someone kill atleast one or fight one in the SE video but you never see them at all.

[octopus]

Well, we did that too. We kited them far away and held them there. But AV still used a two hour when they woke up. He also used Manafont seemingly unprovoked. However I do think it is a good idea to try it again.

Were the aerns silenced? Because when they woke up most likely they'd try to cast a spell... Maybe the aern's actions can trigger AV 2hrs?

[TrogdorOfKujata]

How many JoL pops you guys kill?

[Clynt]

the rdm aern is still up and AV casted meteor on someone sac'ing. i dunno, seems like a little more than a coincidence that it didn't manafont until right after the rdm aern popped, and did it twice after that.