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  1. #421
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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    Our kiting red mage says he was silencing only the BLM/RDM aern and recasting within 30 seconds of it wearing, but you never know.

    Our AV manafonted when a Ninja Aern popped. I'm not so sure it has to do with the job so much as the number.

  2. #422
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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    I'm very interested in the range as well.. how far away were you guys holding these aerns? Details as this could very well be a key... too much shit happening around them to not mean anything.

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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    It would be nice to figure out why he was regenning so fast while doing the correct element to day nuking.

    That's why I asked about the JoL pops.

    Maybe for the aern's its a live and let live sort of scenario?

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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    If its the quantity of aerns, it wouldn't be hard to keep no more than a single aern out at a time...

  5. #425
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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    They said as soon as 1 popped he manafonted so you could not prevent 1 from eventually popping without them not actually dying.

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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    Try kiting his wyvnavs away, SE did that for some reason instead of just nuking them straight down.

  7. #427
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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    Absolute Virtue's spells are all basically instant cast, but there is a delay between them even while in Manafont, only a few seconds but its enough that he won't cast Meteor every 2 seconds during it. The PLD certainly might end up dead anyway (out of MP or unable to keep up), but it'll take some time before he dies, time for everyone else to run the fuck away. AV's Manafont will then wear off as he's running towards the other tanks, they grab him and go back into position, the PLD who's Fealty is now down sits out a bit and another PLD is in charge of handling the next MF.

    And it doesn't matter that Fealty didn't exist with CoP, Shellra V and lots of other stuff didn't either, doesn't means we can't use what's been added as tools.
    I've seen countless times where everyones HP dropped before you ever see AV starts casting Meteor, it's a real laggy fight so you cant always count on a slight reaction time. Sometimes he starts casting it as soon as the dust cloud shows up as well.

  8. #428
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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    So apparently all the aerns around AV have a chance of repopping as one of 2 jobs? The RDM repopped and AV did manafont. We killed the RDM aern now, and it repopped as a BLM, so we wanna see if it still does manafont or if it does chainspell.

  9. #429
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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman
    Try kiting his wyvnavs away, SE did that for some reason instead of just nuking them straight down.
    Maybe to -ga them without hitting AV with it?

  10. #430
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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    Just have -1- Wynav be kited away by an outside claimer (Nin and a Rdm), if they gravity and silence, this shouldn't be a hard task.

    I just wanted to see if you keep one Wynav out, if he'll respawn the other two.

  11. #431
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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    Maybe to -ga them without hitting AV with it?
    more than likely, but the bard that kites them away goes out of the little ??? area and around the corner, away from the ally.

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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    yeah, but they cut shortly thereafter, don't know what exactally what they did with them ; ;

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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    Pretty sure we've seen a Chainspell just after a BLM pop, but also seen a Manafont, when there was a BLM Aern casting Blaze Spikes.
    So I don't really know.. Let's see if it Chainspells or not.

    Edit: Yeah, page 9;

    Quote Originally Posted by GavinBandura
    One thing I noticed when reading the chatlogs was:

    10:15:22 The Om'aern starts casting Blaze Spikes.
    10:15:23 Absolute Virtue uses Manafont.

    Could just mean nothing though.

  14. #434
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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    Try not spamming spells either. Try nice and easy.

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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    Gah, wiped to Meikyo Shisui... manafonted too as we were wiping. Regen pretty much completely stopped.

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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    Gravity stuck on summons and did not try bind or silence.

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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Clynt
    Gah, wiped to Meikyo Shisui... manafonted too as we were wiping. Regen pretty much completely stopped.
    Meh, so it Manafonted with the BLM up?

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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    what % was it and how long was the fight?

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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Quote Originally Posted by Clynt
    Gah, wiped to Meikyo Shisui... manafonted too as we were wiping. Regen pretty much completely stopped.
    Meh, so it Manafonted with the BLM up?
    Yeah.

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    Re: Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Clynt
    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Quote Originally Posted by Clynt
    Gah, wiped to Meikyo Shisui... manafonted too as we were wiping. Regen pretty much completely stopped.
    Meh, so it Manafonted with the BLM up?
    Yeah.
    Well, that's that theory ruled out then.

    Thanks for testing.

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