Absolute Virtue & You: A Learning Experience

[Clynt]

what % was it and how long was the fight?

Only lasted 4-5 minutes this time and got it to 98% with a few blm doing thunder 1-4. It definitely was NOT regening though, or the regen was very minimal.

[TrogdorOfKujata]

What did you guys do with the aern's? Kite?

And did you guys do any experimenting with 2HR's?

[Tygiuu]

Gravity stuck on summons and did not try bind or silence.

Since gravity works, you can kite them, or just 1, if you can keep him from summoning Wynavs by kiting 1, then you've got 1 two hour down, you just have to work on the other 14!

[Massimo]

Gravity stuck on summons and did not try bind or silence.

Since gravity works, you can kite them, or just 1, if you can keep him from summoning Wynavs by kiting 1, then you've got 1 two hour down, you just have to work on the other 14!

If that was true, it'd mean that Mijin, Astral Flow and Familiar all wouldn't be a problem anymore.

Plus it'd keep him from spawning 6 in bracelet form. Should really try testing this, cause I think it might work.

Then there's just the question if they build resistance..

[Jelto]

Died to an unlucky ga3 kiting one last time and did not get to see if he pops more with 1 up. Will try more soon.

[Guitarman]

Could also mean since they got regen to nothing somehow, they could zombie between wipes and eventually actually kill it >.>

[Fyrebrand]

Try only engaging with 7 lol thats what SE did 7 jailers 7 people engaged pld pld rdm rdm sam drk drg at this point I give up lol.

[Therin]

Try only engaging with 7 lol thats what SE did 7 jailers 7 people engaged pld pld rdm rdm sam drk drg at this point I give up lol.

Or you can throw your whole alliance at it and just pray to God that he doesn't shove his javelin up your rectum, it'll have about the same effect.

[Elipse]

Can you confirm two things if possible?

1) Does regen stay nerfed even if left unclaimed and sacked

2) You said regen was considerably lower near ???'s. Can you confirm by moving it away from ??? to see if regen resumed? I'm only asking because that could start a nasty "fact" of AV when it could just be a coincidence of timing (just finished doing just enough nukes to stop the regen).

[*Shinzon*]

Unable to confirm again, Its been on and off, having some issues but the regen appears to be generally down.

[rex_garuda]

Video of first fight from tonight:
http://demols.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=457

[pawis]

so there has been talks in a couple of recent attempts that spamming 2hrs haven't really helped much, but what if that a certain condition has to be met before that action even does anything(for instance... stop his regen?) and whats to be seen is what the spamming of 2hrs will actually do.

[zerohero]

confirmed blm aern was up and he manafonted still.

[TrogdorOfKujata]

yeah, that's another thing SE has also stated, that his Regen needs to be stopped before that.

[Jelto]

Killing aerns before we begin to see if repop causes anything.

[Massimo]

yeah, that's another thing SE has also stated, that his Regen needs to be stopped before that.

As far as I know, SE haven't stated anything about other than stopping his regen.

Link or it didn't happen.

[TrogdorOfKujata]

Sundi: During the fight. You can almost stop regening
Bercus: Regen is no problem!!!! The 2 hours are. Sealing the 2hours. One Linkshell did this. But they don´t know why, and we can´t practice more on AV, because AV is not a 100% pop. Jailer of Love is an easy fight.

(I don´t think anyone knew what I was trying to ask)

Sundi: You have to wait till the Regen is completely stopped. Regen of the HP has completely stopped.
Bercus: Then you can stop the other abilities?
Sundi: No. Only the speed of the Regen. At this time, by doing certain action during the fight.
Bercus: And then the whole monster will clam down and stop using these crazy attacks and 2hours? That´s what we need to know because that´s the problem.
Saori: There are still a few secrets.
Sundi: Yeah.

From the very first post in this thread lol

Now maybe the new hint is what they are refering to as "There are still secrets"
that need to be done after breaking his regen?

[Guitarman]

Stopping his regen first is an interesting theory, and would explain why we've never beaten him legitly. Would also explain why every time SE was presented with a question about AV they were adamant about telling us to stop his regen. Secret tips, perhaps? :bagel:

[TrogdorOfKujata]

Hence the reason they show stopping the regen so adamantly before they show the new hint in the videos

[Massimo]

Sundi: During the fight. You can almost stop regening
Bercus: Regen is no problem!!!! The 2 hours are. Sealing the 2hours. One Linkshell did this. But they don´t know why, and we can´t practice more on AV, because AV is not a 100% pop. Jailer of Love is an easy fight.

(I don´t think anyone knew what I was trying to ask)

Sundi: You have to wait till the Regen is completely stopped. Regen of the HP has completely stopped.
Bercus: Then you can stop the other abilities?
Sundi: No. Only the speed of the Regen. At this time, by doing certain action during the fight.
Bercus: And then the whole monster will clam down and stop using these crazy attacks and 2hours? That´s what we need to know because that´s the problem.
Saori: There are still a few secrets.
Sundi: Yeah.

From the very first post in this thread lol

Now maybe the new hint is what they are refering to as "There are still secrets"
that need to be done after breaking his regen?

It may be 7:20 AM, but I still don't think that looks like what you're trying to say.

Sure it'd make a good theory, and it would make sense I guess, but I think he's saying "Yeah" to the 'secrets' part.

Maybe I'm just too tired, who the fuck knows.