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    Quote Originally Posted by blindSharingan View Post
    If you look closely at the letter Sabo left for them it's marked with the "S" with the X through it on his flag; definitely safe to say that's the inspiration behind Ace's Tattoo.

    http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/73205842/19

    Damn break next week. Wonder if we'll get another week of flash back or if it will return to the present now. Sabo's death seems a little too open ended for me to be 100% convinced he's gone.
    Oda said in an SBS that the S on Ace's arm was a mistake by the tatoo artist, Ace never saw Sabo's flag.

    Kinda split up on Sabo's death, its extremly open for him to have died but it also seems a bit cheap for him to be alive. Why would he have not shown up to Ace's execution?

    Atleast the flashback ended before the break, the next arc should be great with the crew reuniting, new power ups, and fishmen island.

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    We can't believe what we see with an explosion anyway. For all we know, he could be on some Fishmen Island after getting saved. There's been countless of anime where a character 'died' in a big explosion, only to be revealed as alive. That's how I am. I don't buy it unless I literally see them vaporized.

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    like brooke!

    oh wait, he's already dead!

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    That's the first time i laughed at an "I'm already dead" Brooke joke.

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    It'd be funny if the next chapter - after the flashback it directly goes to an adult Sabo crying somewhere upon finding out the whole Ace died/Luffy/Marineford event.

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    I think I'd have found the emotional impact of this chapter stronger if I hadn't called this turn of events 3 weeks ago. It's a little formulaic, even for a WSJ series.

    Chapter 1: Protagonist + cute puppy
    Chapter 2: Unspeakably evil villain separates the two
    Chapter 3: Puppy gets shot

    Drama ensues!

    Meh. GET ON WITH IT ODA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stilzkin View Post
    Oda said in an SBS that the S on Ace's arm was a mistake by the tatoo artist, Ace never saw Sabo's flag.
    As far as I am aware that's never been answered in any SBS it is merely fan speculation that over time has become fact. Do you have a link to the SBS he mentioned that in?

    Also he doesn't need to see the flag it's right there on that letter.


    Edit: Link to a quick google of a SBS compilation. (still in progress though): http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60615

    Also OP wiki's page on SBS info: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/SBS#Series_Information

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    Next week break, that Oda always does the same after flashbacks, mofo -.-

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    spoilers ch. 589:
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    A bit disappointed thought the flashback was over

    Ace and Luffy are at Makino's bar (the one Shanks and Luffy were in at the start)
    Ace and Luffy both decide to leave when they are 17 as Sabo had said that at 18 you became a noble so he had planned to leave then
    Ace leaves and Luffy says goodbye to him
    Few years later Luffy also leaves
    Sabo is still alive and Dragon tells his crew to give him medical care
    Dragon's base seems to be in a place called vertigo
    There is also something about a kid (I'm guessing Sabo) training by lifting a huge boulder
    Chapter ends with Luffy crying questioning his ability to become pirate king and saying he needs to become stronger


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    More of Luffy crying is an underwhelming payoff to an underwhelming flashback arc. Let's hope the real payoff is Jimbei laying down some serious wisdom about Ace and the world government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction View Post
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    More of Luffy crying is an underwhelming payoff to an underwhelming flashback arc. Let's hope the real payoff is Jimbei laying down some serious wisdom about Ace and the world government.
    Really? Flashback wasn't that bad, made sense to slow down the plot after all the action of ID and the war.

    It felt long but it had to be made slightly long as we had to get connected with the idea of the three brothers (Sabo still feels a little out of place). Its also clearly going to be important with the whole revolutionary involvement in it.

    What I'm more disappointed in is that Oda might be pointing to having a timeskip.

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    Incoming training arc where luffy learns to use haki, considering hes on an island where all the chicks use it.

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    luffy gets blown up by a haki arrow

    woops

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    Spoilers.

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    at least 6 pages so far of Garp returning to Windmill Village. Dadan attacks Garp and is crying. Makino remembers Ace and Luffy and also starts crying. Also shows the graves Shanks made. Jimbei tries to calm Luffy down. Luffy remembers his nakama.


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    East Blue, Goa Kingdom
    Village of Fuusha (Windmill)

    Villager: It's Mr Garp!! Garp returned home in a marine ship!!
    villager: Is it a business trip?

    Garp: Hey, good to see you guys alright

    villager: Mr Garp! I read the newspaper!
    villager: What happened to Luffy!?
    villager: With Whitebeard dead, what's going to happen to this world! Mr Garp!?

    villager: For the last few days, we keep seeing pirate ship off the shore.... we can't sleep at night!


    Garp: I just now sank a pirate ship off the shore
    village: Oh really! Thank god!
    Garp: They were amature pirates who knew nothing of war...
    From now on... the sea of the entire world will be unstable for a while...
    Don't let your guard down just because this is a remote island of East Blue.
    Men!
    Marines: Yes sir!

    (Marines put a sign announcing Vice Admiral Garp's protection of the town)

    villager: Oh, how reassuring!

    villager: Mr Garp, we have another problem!! A Mountain bandit came down from the mountain... and is occupying the bar!!
    Garp: Mountain bandits...?
    Makino?: No!! Please, wait!!
    Dadan: Hey Garp!!!
    villager: that's her!!


    Dadan: How dare you show your face here!!!

    villager: Mr Garp!!
    villager: Kyaaaa!!!

    Dadan: *panting*
    Marines: Vice Admiral Garp!!! (readys their rifles)
    Garp: Hold back! She's an acquaintance of mine...


    Dadan: You were right there at the war...!!! They were right in front of your eyes...!!!
    Why did you let Ace die!!!!!

    Dadan: You chose your duty over your family!? Garp!! To hell with the "Hero of the marines"!! Die, you goddamn old geezer!!
    Magra: hey, hey, boss stop!!!
    Makino: Please stop, Dadan!!
    Garp: Makino...

    Makino: Mr Garp wasn't able to save the two who were right in his arms reach! It shook him more than anyone else!!
    Dadan: ....no... The one that's most shaken is Luffy!!!

    flashback
    Ace: I'm Ace!! Who the hell are you?
    Makino: Booo! No, "who the hell" is too rude.
    Luffy: how about "who the heck"?
    Ace: Who the heck are you?
    Makino: Hahahaha, no, no that's not it. You guys aren't being serious are you?

    (In the Japanese, they actually said "temee" then used "omee", above is my liberal take to convey it in English)

    Garp: You know how much he looked up on his brother...!! Makino!


    Woopslap: Garp.... where is Luffy? The newspaper said his whereabouts are unknown...
    Garp: Hey chief... He ran away on a submarine. No wreckage was found...!! He's most likely alive!
    Woopslap: ......

    Villager: you hear that?
    villager: thank god! But why is there a bandit...?

    Dadan: Luffy, that idiot...!! No matter what kind of pirate he'll grow up to be, I'm always going to be on his side!!
    My heart is about to shred into pieces just thinking of what he's feeling right now!!

    Dadan: LUfffyyy!!! Don't let it bring you down!!!!

    Shanks: Don't say that... Even though we were enemies, Whitebeard was a man deserving of my respect. That goes for even Sengoku.
    Well, we're leaving now...
    Marco: Yeah... and thanks.

    Shanks: Luffy, this must be hard on you. I heard Ace's last actions, and it surprised me.
    It sounded like something Captain Roger would do. At times I wanted my captain to run away, and sometimes cry.
    Listen, Luffy... A man becomes a real man after learning both victory and defeat, as well as running and crying.
    It's ok to cry...!! But then get over it!!!

    Calm Belt, female island

    Luffy: DAAAAAMNNNIITTT!!!! I am weak! I can't protect anything!!!
    Jinbei: Luffy.....
    Luffy: Go away...!! Leave me alone!!!

    Jinbei: I can't do that. I can't stand looking at you hurt yourself like that
    Luffy: It's my own body!! I'll do as I please!!!

    Jinbei: Well then, Ace's body was his own as well. Him dying is his own will.
    Luffy: YOU SHUT UP!!! Any more word out of you, and I'll beat you!!
    Jinbei: If that'll calm you down, you can try. I may be injured as well, but I wouldn't lose to you in a state like that....!!

    Luffy pwned, grunts, panting, etc.

    flashback
    Ace: Jinbei... While I was on route chasing Teach, I came across my brother in Alabasta. I haven't seen him in 3 years.
    One look at him, and I knew he was alright. Why do you think that is?

    Luffy bites Jinbei
    Jinbei: Oh Ow!! Ouch...!! OUCH!!!, STOP IT YOU BRAT!!! *SLAM*

    Jinbei: Can you not see anything anymore!? Your confidence to climb over any walls! Your own strength you never doubted!
    Numerous enemies you don't stand a chance to have faced you, and broken those confidence and belief in strength you had in yourself.
    And then your brother you looked up to as a guide in this sea..!! Yes, you may have lost many!!
    Your eyes are being covered by the massive wall called this World!!
    But you cannot see ahead like that!! You are being swallowed in your own guilty conscience!!

    Jinbei: It may be hard on you right now, Luffy!!! But you must surpress them for now!!
    Don't just think about what you have lost!! What you no longer have, you no longer have!!
    Reaffirm yourself!! What do you still have left!?
    Luffy: !!?

    I still have my crew!!!

    Jinbei: .... I see.
    Luffy: Zoro!! Nami!! Usopp!! Sanji!! Chopper!! Robin!! Franky!! Brook!! I have... my crewmates!!!
    We have a rendezvous point... I have to go...
    Jinbei.....

    flashback
    Ace: You know what I saw? Jinbei...
    Ace: With a clumsy brother like him, I'm always worried about him, you know?
    I know he may cause many trouble for you guys, but...

    flashback continued
    Ace: He's no longer just a little brother Luffy following me around.
    He had reliable crewmates supporting him. No matter what happens, he'll be alright. It reassured me.

    Luffy: I wanna see them right now....
    I wanna see them!!!

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    timeskip imminent?

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    Maybe. I could see Zoro decking Luffy so hard if he returned with that mopey "I'm to weak to be the Pirate King" attitude

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    Anyone have a good one peice anime streaming site? The Watch-onepiece.com one has a couple of key episodes broken for the escape of Impel Down.

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    seems no epic Haki Training

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