Battle System Improvements (02/22/2008) - (Nothing good)

[neochaos]

This is in no way a solid concrete fact, but I'm going to just ASSUME that if SE DID indeed listen to the playerbase on issues regarding FFXI, it's most likely the JP side they listen to. I'm sure if we were to find a JP website equivalent to BG, chances are they have threads ranting and raving about how great music for mages are now, doll festivals, 10000000+ macros, etc. <.<


Anyways yeah this thread will prob get locked soon, and then quite possibly an exact clone of it will appear in the next few days when once again SE releases tidbits of information that just make you slam ur head into a wall :/

[Spira]

You guys should go easy on Kenji for the next day or so while he waits for KI to load.

even tho I'm a mod there I seriously LOLed at this because it can be so true..

in any case, based on the last thread he tried making over at KI, hes not welcome there either.


to the rest.. I think patience may be key.. remember the time when all the BLM were bitching about cumulative magic resistance on NMs, then almost forgetting that change existed because of Grp2 merits announced later on?

Its like, the newest piece of hot info will make all the news, then people just forget when the next thing comes along... next week will probably bring stuff that will really be worth talking about.

[Kenji]

Actually, Spira, I left KI to you. That's your home turf. =)

But I think Kaslo said it best, lol. Judging by the PMs and other posts, more agree than disagree, and understand what I was trying to say, so I'll let this drop.

[Indalecia]

Sure kiddo, whatever you say.

[Demosthenes11]

Actually, Spira, I left KI to you. That's your home turf. =)

But I think Kaslo said it best, lol. Judging by the PMs and other posts, more agree than disagree, and understand what I was trying to say, so I'll let this drop.

LOL
because people totally PM people telling them they agree with them

GTFO

[neochaos]

they prob did PM him saying they agree with him. No half-minded person would agree with idiocy publicly >.> then again..why they would agree is beyond me :Q

[Lordender]

Its like, the newest piece of hot info will make all the news, then people just forget when the next thing comes along... next week will probably bring stuff that will really be worth talking about.

Hope so cause everyone knows Beastmen stronghold campaign is only gonna be cool for the first 2 weeks before everyone says lolcampaign again. We can hope theres some bad ass worthwhile HNM's in those 3 stronghold areas with pwn drops which I really doubt will happen.

[Kaslo]

Actually, Spira, I left KI to you. That's your home turf. =)

But I think Kaslo said it best, lol. Judging by the PMs and other posts, more agree than disagree, and understand what I was trying to say, so I'll let this drop.

LOL
because people totally PM people telling them they agree with them

GTFO

They have to me one a massive argument before, lot easier to do that, than to do it in public for the mob with pitchforks to come after you too

@Neo I think SE has already figured out that no matter what they do endgame players will bitch so they just try to do what will please the ppl they can please, the casual player.

[chi]

Hm, I guess now you can't use whether or not someone engages the mob to hear the music as a gauge of just how Japanese they are. If a Japanese mage engages the mob to hear the battle music with the title Monarch Linn Patrol Guard, they will find a moogle cap in their inventory by the end of the party.

If they do force you to upload your macros, it's retaliation for all the superfluous bitching people did when they added 20 macro books. This is just SE's way of saying "WHO'S EXCESSIVE NOW, FAGGOT?"

[Tajin]

the casual player.

The casual player wants to kill NMs and get shinies too :<. But however this is not exactly a good argument since after all there is FL assault, Nyzul, Limbus, hell even Einherjar. The only problem for the casual player is that shit never drops



Edit: Since SE can't get it right with the nashmau boat (saves a lot of time gathering for einherjar, but is made of massive fail anyway) who wants to take bets on macros getting screwed on the copy to the server?

[neochaos]

@Neo I think SE has already figured out that no matter what they do endgame players will bitch so they just try to do what will please the ppl they can please, the casual player.

Had SE actually gave us a relevant fucking strategy for AV most of us wouldn't be on BG right now bitching about SE, but instead all crowding in sea attempting to kick AV's ass. As was mentioned in a previous post, most of the time they do anything they do it in a half-assed manner. What the fuck is the point of doing shit half-assed, and I can't imagine what type of gamer welcomes pathetic mediocrity like that? I love FFXI, its a great game, its why i've played it for 4 years.

Hope so cause everyone knows Beastmen stronghold campaign is only gonna be cool for the first 2 weeks before everyone says lolcampaign again. We can hope theres some bad ass worthwhile HNM's in those 3 stronghold areas with pwn drops which I really doubt will happen.

Next wave of HNMs might even drop crystal CLUSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111

lolSandworm

[510Meeze]

To all the SE haters that talk about SE not doing this, not doing that etc. You guys are the morons that have been crying the whole time about this or that, but when SE does change something (see VE, LL, Moo, Huu, etc) you still don't get off your ass to farm the items you cried about.

You bitched to get rid of RMT from controlling these items, but you still don't have any single R/E item. You weren't camping the 3rd week after the change when I strolled into the zone on my choco and killed VE without anyone even knowing, getting drop, and walking the rest of the way to Gustav.

I have learned that you complained about RMT this whole time, while buying major gil in the process. I come to this conclusion because during the big gil buying extravaganza everyone had hauby, two snipers, HQ earrings, SHs, Byrnies, you get the point.

The same person complained that if there was no RMT, they could make so much gil if RMT would let loose their chokehold on the market. Now we look and there are mobs for farming up everywhere with no one farming. You never wanted to farm, you just wanted to justify buying gil this whole time. You never wanted to camp the NMs, you just wanted to bitch at SE for not doing their job.

We have seen you lose the good gear and become one of those gimps walking around at level 75 ruby rings, fang earrings, Narasimha vests etc. Tabzaring wars, life belt MNKs, fudo NINs, it's just sickening.

Now you cry that SE is doing too little too late, well, news break, you dumb mother fuckers have been playing this game for 4+ years and probably complained to SE about battle music for mages, but you still want to cry that SE is late.

You had, and still have, your chance to quit this game and play a perfect game, it's out there right?

No, there isn't a perfect game, every game has people who are going to be pessomistic because thats how the mass public is, they think the corparation is evil, and underground is cool, until underground becomes cool, then they are sellouts. STFU already, stop sending SE emails that RNGs are pwning you, stop sending notifaction that BLM is overpowered, stop bitching about cannons, then be over jubilant when any group of gimps can show up and chain 100+ without a BRD on colibri.

Does this game have flaws? Yes. Can this game be improved? Yes. Does SE "need" to improve? No. If they made no changes at all, we would continue to play, just as we have since before this update.

If you were so upset about how SE runs things, you would of quit this game years ago, and it would have died.

[miokomioko]

If you give a mouse a cookie. . .

[BerenTebogo]

I agreed with Kenji in a PM, granted I was agreeing with somebody else, about wanting to stab him, so it was more agreeing at him, and I didn't actually PM him, but it was a good story.

[nekoshoonen]

You know, I like it. RDM & WHM were boring as hell with no music, or I'd get lulled to sleep in the thickets or caedarva. (That and I really like all the party-battle music.)

With that said, if this macro thing is a trick to get rid of windower macros/wave the banstick, then you can say goodbye to me. RDM was hell without them, BLU is a fucking dream with them.

There's something really nice about 1 macro swapping 10 pieces, having the CA/WS/spell go off, then my haste/acc put on for TP'ing in. I used to have 4 macros to do the same thing, and that was at 50~ when I didn't have the gear selection I do now.

PM me your BLU windower macros >.>; PREASE
i suck at making that shit ...

[Max™]

If you give a mouse a cookie. . .

THEN ALIENS WILL COME DESTROY THIS ZOMBIE INFESTED PLANET AND IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT BILLY!

[Demosthenes11]

what the hell? Were you born this retarded or did the fall while skateboarding with the broskis do it?

To all the SE haters that talk about SE not doing this, not doing that etc. You guys are the morons that have been crying the whole time about this or that, but when SE does change something (see VE, LL, Moo, Huu, etc) you still don't get off your ass to farm the items you cried about.

You bitched to get rid of RMT from controlling these items, but you still don't have any single R/E item. You weren't camping the 3rd week after the change when I strolled into the zone on my choco and killed VE without anyone even knowing, getting drop, and walking the rest of the way to Gustav.

You are making gigantic blanket statements that are nowhere near applicable or justifiable. We don't have rare/ex version cuz we don't farm (who the fuck is "you guys" anyways?)? That's odd, but I believe I have empress pin, bounding boots, kote, kyahan, retaliators, etc. Let's make some more unfounded blanket statements ok?

SE didnt have to fuck with the economy and gilflow and make all those things rare/ex in the first place. People bitched because SE could have simply banned RMT. It's great now that they are doing it, but it doesn't change the fact that they were lazy in the first place.

I have learned that you complained about RMT this whole time, while buying major gil in the process. I come to this conclusion because during the big gil buying extravaganza everyone had hauby, two snipers, HQ earrings, SHs, Byrnies, you get the point.

The same person complained that if there was no RMT, they could make so much gil if RMT would let loose their chokehold on the market. Now we look and there are mobs for farming up everywhere with no one farming. You never wanted to farm, you just wanted to justify buying gil this whole time. You never wanted to camp the NMs, you just wanted to bitch at SE for not doing their job.

Buying gil? What the fuck are you talking about? Do you know what inflation IS? You have to be kidding and are a troll, tell me you are because I want to believe public school didn't fail anyone this badly.

We have seen you lose the good gear and become one of those gimps walking around at level 75 ruby rings, fang earrings, Narasimha vests etc. Tabzaring wars, life belt MNKs, fudo NINs, it's just sickening.

Perhaps you should mosey on down to the gimp/wtf/confused player thread and find people blowing chunks over NQ items and then check out the "Post pictures of your gear thread." I wasn't aware Black belts, togi+1's, and ridaberks were gimp as fuck and comparable to Narashima's vest, but whatever floats your boat in your little dream world.

Now you cry that SE is doing too little too late, well, news break, you dumb mother fuckers have been playing this game for 4+ years and probably complained to SE about battle music for mages, but you still want to cry that SE is late.

god, shut the fuck up already with your special comments

You had, and still have, your chance to quit this game and play a perfect game, it's out there right?

No, there isn't a perfect game, every game has people who are going to be pessomistic because thats how the mass public is, they think the corparation is evil, and underground is cool, until underground becomes cool, then they are sellouts. STFU already, stop sending SE emails that RNGs are pwning you, stop sending notifaction that BLM is overpowered, stop bitching about cannons, then be over jubilant when any group of gimps can show up and chain 100+ without a BRD on colibri.

Does this game have flaws? Yes. Can this game be improved? Yes. Does SE "need" to improve? No. If they made no changes at all, we would continue to play, just as we have since before this update.

If you were so upset about how SE runs things, you would of quit this game years ago, and it would have died.

BLM is overpowered? Oh god, it seems I've stepped in a time warp and it's 2005, someone help me out. Where the fuck are you getting this shit? BLM is one of the shit on jobs now due to it's substandard abilities in an exp party. When did RNG "pwn" people? Honestly, 2005 called and they want their village idiot back.

lol@ SE not needing to improve. I forgot how much we all love waiting 3 months for updates to fish ranking, the introduction of terrible drop rates, and the apparently ever-so-long-awaited outside battle music.

Go away

[BerenTebogo]

It's not often I agree with demosthene, but fuck, in lieu of a long-winded step by step depiction of just how fucking retarded you are, and how little use you are to this topic, I'm just going to go ahead and find a penny, take it on down to my nearest 'wishing well' and toss it in.

What will I wish for you ask?

That you get struck by lightning, or hit by a bus, of course.

[Shuemue]

Sath, do you ever sleep?

[BerenTebogo]

Sath, do you ever sleep?

It's morning here lol