Battle System Improvements (02/22/2008) - (Nothing good)

[Alleya]

All people on both sides of this argument in this thread are intellectually bankrupt bickering kids. Let me break this down for all of you:

- Everyone has an opinion.

- Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

- Your opinions are wrong. In one way or another, every single opinion you hold in life is wrong in some way.

- Arguing about it is fucking pointless, because you are wrong anyway.

- Arguing about it proves just how wrong you are.

- Continuing to argue about it after stating your opinion makes you a stupid person.

Further:

- Updates have always been this way.

- It's not as bad as it used to be.

- We know you're impatient and you want the update to come, shut the fuck up.

- We know you're patient and can wait for the update to come, shut the fuck up.

- You don't know what the future update details will be, shut the fuck up.

- You don't know what the update will actually contain when all is said and done, shut the fuck up.

- No one wants to hear your whiny pessimism.

- No one wants to hear your naive optimism.

- Say your piece and shut the fuck up.

Further:

- Take your boundless energy for dissecting all things FFXI and put it to a good fucking use, like updating the wiki, instead of making yourself look like a goddamn retard by arguing over nothing in a useless thread.

- Take your boundless fucking energy for dissecting all things FFXI and go do some testing to answer some of the questions everyone still has about systems.

In short:

- SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO OUTSIDE YOU ACID-SPEWING CAMEL VULVAS.

[510Meeze]

All people on both sides of this argument in this thread are intellectually bankrupt bickering kids. Let me break this down for all of you:

- Everyone has an opinion.

- Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

- Your opinions are wrong. In one way or another, every single opinion you hold in life is wrong in some way.

- Arguing about it is fucking pointless, because you are wrong anyway.

- Arguing about it proves just how wrong you are.

- Continuing to argue about it after stating your opinion makes you a stupid person.

Further:

- Updates have always been this way.

- It's not as bad as it used to be.

- We know you're impatient and you want the update to come, shut the fuck up.

- We know you're patient and can wait for the update to come, shut the fuck up.

- You don't know what the future update details will be, shut the fuck up.

- You don't know what the update will actually contain when all is said and done, shut the fuck up.

- No one wants to hear your whiny pessimism.

- No one wants to hear your naive optimism.

- Say your piece and shut the fuck up.

Further:

- Take your boundless energy for dissecting all things FFXI and put it to a good fucking use, like updating the wiki, instead of making yourself look like a goddamn retard by arguing over nothing in a useless thread.

- Take your boundless fucking energy for dissecting all things FFXI and go do some testing to answer some of the questions everyone still has about systems.

In short:

- SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO OUTSIDE YOU ACID-SPEWING CAMEL VULVAS.

I agree with you, but at the same time forums are put up to argue about pointless shit. I bitch at the people who bitch, and you bitch at us both, that is the beauty of forums. If we all stfu we'd just have a web site like wikis, bgwikis, somepage etc.

People like to argue and choose sides, that's what almost every first world country is based on.

[Septimus]

Best parts:

- Take your boundless energy for dissecting all things FFXI and put it to a good fucking use, like updating the wiki, instead of making yourself look like a goddamn retard by arguing over nothing in a useless thread.

In short:

- SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO OUTSIDE YOU ACID-SPEWING CAMEL VULVAS.

::Applause::

[Alleya]

I agree with you, but at the same time forums are put up to argue about pointless shit. I bitch at the people who bitch, and you bitch at us both, that is the beauty of forums. If we all stfu we'd just have a web site like wikis, bgwikis, somepage etc.

People like to argue and choose sides, that's what almost every first world country is based on.

You still look like a stupid asshole.

Here's a thought.

Argue about it in a way that makes you not a fucking stupid asshole.

[ronin sparthos]

- Take your boundless energy for dissecting all things FFXI and put it to a good fucking use, like updating the wiki, solving AV, bitching AV some more instead of making yourself look like a goddamn retard by arguing over something that isnt AV in a useless thread.

Hear ya loud n clear.

[510Meeze]

I agree with you, but at the same time forums are put up to argue about pointless shit. I bitch at the people who bitch, and you bitch at us both, that is the beauty of forums. If we all stfu we'd just have a web site like wikis, bgwikis, somepage etc.

People like to argue and choose sides, that's what almost every first world country is based on.

You still look like a stupid asshole.

Here's a thought.

Argue about it in a way that makes you not a fucking stupid asshole.

And slinging elementary school insults makes you a genius. My first post I'll admit was quite incoherent, I was a bit intoxicated, but I'm looking for a pass. I still believe that SE has shown to do things how they do them, and I just adjust and adapt as they do so.

I stopped believing in SE 3 years ago when they hammered RNG down to DRG size. I continue to play and enjoy the game through the good and bad and react to their actions.

One guy here boasted how they are glad to run noobs out of the forums, but who is the noob that can't realize that SE does things at SEs pace, yet still cries and moans when they do what they've been doing for 4+years.

If one hasn't learned by now, they probably have some sort of mental block that doesn't allow to learn simple patterns.

[Alcatraz217]

bind ^1 ctrl1;
bind ^2 ctrl2;
bind ^3 ctrl3;
bind ^4 ctrl4;
bind ^5 ctrl5;
bind ^6 ctrl6;

Forgive me if I misunderstood, but this basically means you only have one set of 20 macros, right? How do you make this work for multiple jobs, or if you need more than 20 per job?

[Tajin]

All those binds do is tell windower that whenever you press '1' it should do CTRL+1 and so on.

You still have to switch macro palletes with CTRL+UP or ALT+UP/DOWN.

In other words, you still have access to all your books/macro sets.

[ringthree]

- Take your boundless energy for dissecting all things FFXI and put it to a good fucking use, like updating the wiki, instead of making yourself look like a goddamn retard by arguing over nothing in a useless thread.

First, let me say that I love you. Almost as much as I love Rocl. Clear, concise, rational, with a big fat cup of STFU. <3

Second, I wish everyone would follow the quoted suggestion. I try to do this as much as I can now, and I actually feel like I am not wasting my breath. I used to waste my typing trying to justify whatever it was I was debating at the time. Now I just hawkishly watch the BGwiki Salvage pages to make sure that no one adds any incorrect information (in the wrong format... that doesn't follow my linguistic style... and doesn't follow proper margins... don't mess with my cell charts they took me forever to make... I still need to finish Zhayolm and making my maps... ; ;)

[ringthree]

All those binds do is tell windower that whenever you press '1' it should do CTRL+1 and so on.

You still have to switch macro palletes with CTRL+UP or ALT+UP/DOWN.

In other words, you still have access to all your books/macro sets.

Does windower recognize L2 and R2 on a controller as CTRL and ALT for the purposes of binds? My brain goes absolutely retarded when trying to use the keyboard for anything more complicated than the AH.

[Tajin]

L2 and R2 are not called like that on PC to begin with so you can't set the bind by using R2; but I do not know if windower intercepts controller input too.

The point of using binds is that instead of pressing CTRL+1 you just press '1'; unless you want to bind "L2" to CTRL+UP.

[Khamsin]

So, how about them battle system improvements, eh?

[LD]

So, how about them battle system improvements, eh?

What the Hell are you talking about?

[Kerberoz]

You can bind macros to ctrl+alt+key too. That's 30. If you have a G15 keyboard that's 54 more. If not, you can bind a button to switch your binds and use that as a toggle.

You never have to use game macros at all. Mine are completely blank.

[sunb1ind]

All people on both sides of this argument in this thread are intellectually bankrupt bickering kids. Let me break this down for all of you:

- Everyone has an opinion.

- Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

- Your opinions are wrong. In one way or another, every single opinion you hold in life is wrong in some way.

- Arguing about it is fucking pointless, because you are wrong anyway.

- Arguing about it proves just how wrong you are.

- Continuing to argue about it after stating your opinion makes you a stupid person.

Further:

- Updates have always been this way.

- It's not as bad as it used to be.

- We know you're impatient and you want the update to come, shut the fuck up.

- We know you're patient and can wait for the update to come, shut the fuck up.

- You don't know what the future update details will be, shut the fuck up.

- You don't know what the update will actually contain when all is said and done, shut the fuck up.

- No one wants to hear your whiny pessimism.

- No one wants to hear your naive optimism.

- Say your piece and shut the fuck up.

Further:

- Take your boundless energy for dissecting all things FFXI and put it to a good fucking use, like updating the wiki, instead of making yourself look like a goddamn retard by arguing over nothing in a useless thread.

- Take your boundless fucking energy for dissecting all things FFXI and go do some testing to answer some of the questions everyone still has about systems.

In short:

- SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO OUTSIDE YOU ACID-SPEWING CAMEL VULVAS.

Trying to referee internet forums is dumb, pathetic, a waste of time, etc.

Here's a tip:

-Go buy: a gym membership, martial arts classes, yoga, or something that will relieve your terrible problems with stress. Having the need to type out all that bullshit, preaching your golden knowledge for how one should act, think, and argue, that's too much lol

On Topic tho, its been said enough that people think this update is probably going to be mediocre at best and will not save WoTG's hollow creation. Yeah, we don't know until the actual update, but what kind of picture are they trying to paint with this fluff content shit they keep posting?

They're not fooling anyone other than ZAM players, who don't even play enough for them to actually run out of content. These tablescraps they keep throwing out doesn't make us want to log in more hours, it makes me think they don't give a shit anymore. Maybe SE should stick to console games if they're not in it for the long run like all these old ass MMOs, that look like shit, but still continue pumping out new stuff for subscribers lol With that said, I forsee alot of good console titles this year, FFXI is like the filler between releases now lol

[Tajin]

Own sauce.

Trying to referee internet forums is dumb, pathetic, a waste of time, etc.
Here's a tip:
-Go buy: a gym membership, martial arts classes, yoga, or something that will relieve your terrible problems with stress. Having the need to type out all that bullshit, preaching your golden knowledge for how one should act, think, and argue, that's too much lol

Holy fucking wow.

[Almalexia]

Battle music plays when you approach someone engaged with this thread.

[Sekkite]

Trying to referee internet forums is dumb, pathetic, a waste of time, etc.

Here's a tip:

-Go buy: a gym membership, martial arts classes, yoga, or something that will relieve your terrible problems with stress. Having the need to type out all that bullshit, preaching your golden knowledge for how one should act, think, and argue, that's too much lol

On Topic tho, its been said enough that people think this update is probably going to be mediocre at best and will not save WoTG's hollow creation. Yeah, we don't know until the actual update, but what kind of picture are they trying to paint with this fluff content shit they keep posting?

They're not fooling anyone other than ZAM players, who don't even play enough for them to actually run out of content. These tablescraps they keep throwing out doesn't make us want to log in more hours, it makes me think they don't give a shit anymore. Maybe SE should stick to console games if they're not in it for the long run like all these old ass MMOs, that look like shit, but still continue pumping out new stuff for subscribers lol With that said, I forsee alot of good console titles this year, FFXI is like the filler between releases now lol

You must not be part of many internet communities to be this retarded. Also, hypocrite much?

That being said, pessimism is one thing, but your opinion on FFXI is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

On topic: There are likely real changes lined up for the next update. I'd assume that some of the possible class changes they were considering earlier will make it in.

[sunb1ind]

Own sauce.

Trying to referee internet forums is dumb, pathetic, a waste of time, etc.
Here's a tip:
-Go buy: a gym membership, martial arts classes, yoga, or something that will relieve your terrible problems with stress. Having the need to type out all that bullshit, preaching your golden knowledge for how one should act, think, and argue, that's too much lol

Holy fucking wow.

Telling people they are wrong for arguing altogether in a laundry list of complaints = own sauce? Give me a fuckin break. That person needs to take their nutjob philosophies like "every single opinion you hold in life is wrong in some way" and share them with the church of scientology, instead of posting it on here.

You must not be part of many internet communities to be this retarded. Also, hypocrite much?

How am I a hypocrite for telling them to 'chill out' instead of posting shit like everyone shouldn't argue, their opinions are all dumb, etc.? Internet communities reflect those IRL with similar arguments. Yes, I belong to many different groups and communities and this is the only forum I know of that has a large concentration of the "I'm right, no matter wut" arguments like the one posted.

[Tajin]

Telling people they are wrong for arguing altogether in a laundry list of complaints = own sauce? Give me a fuckin break. That person needs to take their nutjob philosophies like "every single opinion you hold in life is wrong in some way" and share them with the church of scientology, instead of posting it on here.
How am I a hypocrite for telling them to 'chill out' instead of posting shit like everyone shouldn't argue, their opinions are all dumb, etc.? Internet communities reflect those IRL with similar arguments. Yes, I belong to many different groups and communities and this is the only forum I know of that has a large concentration of the "I'm right, no matter wut" arguments like the one posted.

Pay no mind to the first bolded part, that is for the lulz. As for the second, I won't bother because I rather have more conversations about battle music and colored mobs.