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    Item icons

    While I realize there are more pressing things to do than play with little 32x32 pictures...

    I exported all the icons from POLUtils and was wondering if BGWiki was going to be anal about replacing icons that are "fine" on their own like that other wiki always was. That is, the icons I exported are a bit "cleaner" looking than the ones snipped out of the game, due to not having the rough edges of the item box to deal with. While the regular icons are fine, the ones I'd be replacing them with are (in my opinion) just a hair better.

    If I'm not making what I mean clear, I'm talking about the difference between this http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/8/8...Staff_icon.png vs. the attached.

    And yes, as I come to each item to upload the icon, I do fix up the item pages. :3 I started on furnitures a few days ago, but got busy with other things before getting too far: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Oak_Table

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    Re: Item icons

    That sounds really cool, but it would be very tedious, I'll help share the load if you want. I really like this idea plus it would make my Template:Equipment Set look a LOT cleaner. I could have your images overlay the slot icon so it can really look like it does as it's in your inventory.

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    Re: Item icons

    I like the idea as well. They look nice. If you can upload them to a public directory, others can help as well.

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    Re: Item icons

    I tried to do this as well after seeing this topic this morning. My images didn't come out very clean, kinda blurry.

    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Mary%27s_Horn

    Do you clean the backgrounds off with eraser tool on a transparent layer on Photoshop or something? I'm rusty at this and I'm not sure if that quality is acceptable. Let me know and I'll revert the change.

    Edit: It didn't show up after I updated and resized it. Never mind, reverted the change.

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    Re: Item icons

    Does anyone by any chance have the 32x32 for Enhancing Sword to upload?

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    Re: Item icons

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryousuke
    I tried to do this as well after seeing this topic this morning. My images didn't come out very clean, kinda blurry.

    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Mary%27s_Horn

    Do you clean the backgrounds off with eraser tool on a transparent layer on Photoshop or something? I'm rusty at this and I'm not sure if that quality is acceptable. Let me know and I'll revert the change.

    Edit: It didn't show up after I updated and resized it. Never mind, reverted the change.
    No, they are the raw icons from the game files. They can be exported if you have Pebbles. In fact, that is how I got the icons for the version update changes.

    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/c/c...s_Egg_icon.png http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/2/2...k_Egg_icon.png
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/6/6...r_Die_icon.png

    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto
    Does anyone by any chance have the 32x32 for Enhancing Sword to upload?
    [attachment=0:3hu4ixpy][00016605] Enhancing Sword.png[/attachment:3hu4ixpy]

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    Re: Item icons

    Thanks Septimus, I'm a 360 player so I don't know how to get these icons myself, but if you have a stack of them in line to be uploaded that you'd like help on let me know, I have a bunch of free time to upload them if provided w/ the icons.

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    Re: Item icons

    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto
    Thanks Septimus, I'm a 360 player so I don't know how to get these icons myself, but if you have a stack of them in line to be uploaded that you'd like help on let me know, I have a bunch of free time to upload them if provided w/ the icons.
    I would have to rename all of them, since they have their item numbers in front of them. I've been thinking of ways to speed up the process...

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    Re: Item icons

    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto
    Thanks Septimus, I'm a 360 player so I don't know how to get these icons myself, but if you have a stack of them in line to be uploaded that you'd like help on let me know, I have a bunch of free time to upload them if provided w/ the icons.
    I would have to rename all of them, since they have their item numbers in front of them. I've been thinking of ways to speed up the process...
    What is the format they need to be renamed to? (like from '%5B00016605%5D%20Enhancing%20Sword.png' to 'Enhancing_Sword.png'?) That's not a huge deal if I'm already going to be fixing up item pages, not like that's a fast process anyways.

    Edit: Also, this is the first item page I've fixed and I'm kinda new to this, can you please look at it real quick and make sure I didn't fuck anything up?
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Enhancing_Sword

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    Re: Item icons

    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto
    Thanks Septimus, I'm a 360 player so I don't know how to get these icons myself, but if you have a stack of them in line to be uploaded that you'd like help on let me know, I have a bunch of free time to upload them if provided w/ the icons.
    I would have to rename all of them, since they have their item numbers in front of them. I've been thinking of ways to speed up the process...
    What is the format they need to be renamed to? (like from '%5B00016605%5D%20Enhancing%20Sword.png' to 'Enhancing_Sword.png'?) That's not a huge deal if I'm already going to be fixing up item pages, not like that's a fast process anyways.

    Edit: Also, this is the first item page I've fixed and I'm kinda new to this, can you please look at it real quick and make sure I didn't fuck anything up?
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Enhancing_Sword
    Well, it is the sheer volume of icons that need to be renamed. There are 13,311 item icons, most of them are not used though. I am toying with a method to rename them and deploy them to the web so that they can easily be uploaded to the wiki.

    Looks good, but you also have to get rid of the Tagging and Semantics categories.

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    Re: Item icons

    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto
    Thanks Septimus, I'm a 360 player so I don't know how to get these icons myself, but if you have a stack of them in line to be uploaded that you'd like help on let me know, I have a bunch of free time to upload them if provided w/ the icons.
    I would have to rename all of them, since they have their item numbers in front of them. I've been thinking of ways to speed up the process...
    What is the format they need to be renamed to? (like from '%5B00016605%5D%20Enhancing%20Sword.png' to 'Enhancing_Sword.png'?) That's not a huge deal if I'm already going to be fixing up item pages, not like that's a fast process anyways.

    Edit: Also, this is the first item page I've fixed and I'm kinda new to this, can you please look at it real quick and make sure I didn't fuck anything up?
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Enhancing_Sword
    Well, it is the sheer volume of icons that need to be renamed. There are 13,311 item icons, most of them are not used though. I am toying with a method to rename them and deploy them to the web so that they can easily be uploaded to the wiki.

    Looks good, but you also have to get rid of the Tagging and Semantics categories.
    The tagging/semantics means it still needs to be fixed, right? I had left that on b/c I still need the actual description image.

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    Re: Item icons

    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto
    Thanks Septimus, I'm a 360 player so I don't know how to get these icons myself, but if you have a stack of them in line to be uploaded that you'd like help on let me know, I have a bunch of free time to upload them if provided w/ the icons.
    I would have to rename all of them, since they have their item numbers in front of them. I've been thinking of ways to speed up the process...
    What is the format they need to be renamed to? (like from '%5B00016605%5D%20Enhancing%20Sword.png' to 'Enhancing_Sword.png'?) That's not a huge deal if I'm already going to be fixing up item pages, not like that's a fast process anyways.

    Edit: Also, this is the first item page I've fixed and I'm kinda new to this, can you please look at it real quick and make sure I didn't fuck anything up?
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Enhancing_Sword
    Well, it is the sheer volume of icons that need to be renamed. There are 13,311 item icons, most of them are not used though. I am toying with a method to rename them and deploy them to the web so that they can easily be uploaded to the wiki.

    Looks good, but you also have to get rid of the Tagging and Semantics categories.
    The tagging/semantics means it still needs to be fixed, right? I had left that on b/c I still need the actual description image.
    Tagging/Semantics can be removed when everything is done.

    Except, if obtained info or images are missing, you can add {{Item Info}} and {{Item Image}} respectively, and the tagging/semantics can be removed if these two tags are added.

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    Re: Item icons

    I'm also pretty new at this, my wiki account's CarWD, and I've been making edits between classes (and while procrasinating my essay.) I'm hope I'm not screwing anything major up and stuff. ><
    I leave the Tagging and Sematics categories for some of them when item info is needed, because I remember reading in the guide to not remove those tags until all changes are done? I'm not sure if I'm supposed to do this?
    And also while fixing pages up and uploading the icons with the correct names, I also save the description image onto my computer and reupload them by pressing on the red text saying 'itemname_description.png' since the image tag is in the item page itself, and isn't that what we're also trying to get rid of? I'm just wondering if I'm doing that right, or should I leave the line saying |description image=[[soandso_description.png]] to stop from deleteing the image to save having to upload it again?

    Uhm... Yeah. Rambled abit. Hope you understand what I'm trying to say v.v

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    Re: Item icons

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryousuke
    I'm also pretty new at this, my wiki account's CarWD, and I've been making edits between classes (and while procrasinating my essay.) I'm hope I'm not screwing anything major up and stuff. ><
    I leave the Tagging and Sematics categories for some of them when item info is needed, because I remember reading in the guide to not remove those tags until all changes are done? I'm not sure if I'm supposed to do this?
    And also while fixing pages up and uploading the icons with the correct names, I also save the description image onto my computer and reupload them by pressing on the red text saying 'itemname_description.png' since the image tag is in the item page itself, and isn't that what we're also trying to get rid of? I'm just wondering if I'm doing that right, or should I leave the line saying |description image=[[soandso_description.png]] to stop from deleteing the image to save having to upload it again?

    Uhm... Yeah. Rambled abit. Hope you understand what I'm trying to say v.v
    The image name is already in the template, so the |description image=[[image name]] line is not needed. That item can be removed, and once it's gone, the template will have the correct item name on the right, ready to be clicked for the image to be uploaded.

    You don't have to name the images in your computer, they can be named anything. For example, if you have the description image for an Apple, you can have the file name being Apple2, and when you click the link to upload, it will automatically rename it to what it needs to be.

    For your first question, see my post above. I'll edit the main guide to make this clearer.

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    Re: Item icons

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryousuke
    I'm also pretty new at this, my wiki account's CarWD, and I've been making edits between classes (and while procrasinating my essay.) I'm hope I'm not screwing anything major up and stuff. ><
    I leave the Tagging and Sematics categories for some of them when item info is needed, because I remember reading in the guide to not remove those tags until all changes are done? I'm not sure if I'm supposed to do this?
    And also while fixing pages up and uploading the icons with the correct names, I also save the description image onto my computer and reupload them by pressing on the red text saying 'itemname_description.png' since the image tag is in the item page itself, and isn't that what we're also trying to get rid of? I'm just wondering if I'm doing that right, or should I leave the line saying |description image=[[soandso_description.png]] to stop from deleteing the image to save having to upload it again?

    Uhm... Yeah. Rambled abit. Hope you understand what I'm trying to say v.v
    Like Julian said, use {{Item Info}} when information like crafting or NM drop is needed, and {{Item Image}} when it needs images, then delete the Tagging and Semantics categories. (That way we know that the ones in those categories need to be overhauled.)

    Also, remove the image description image line. Those don't need to be used anymore, images are automatically generated in the template.

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    Re: Item icons

    Ok, last couple of questions and I should be good:

    1) Is there a specific spot I need to plop in the {{Item Image}} tag in order to flag it for needing a description image?

    and

    2) Pretty much the same question regarding the [[Category:Item Type]] i.e. [[Category:Sword]] for the ESword, can I just plop both fo those tags at the bottom?

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    Re: Item icons

    Anywhere is fine, the top or the bottom are both ok places, the bottom is better though imo. (So that they're easier to remove (the item image/item info) when that image/info is uploaded)

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    Re: Item icons

    Ok, I lied, I have another question: Is it ok if we truncate the TP/Hit values on weapons to 1 decimal place, since that's what actually happens to them ingame?

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    Re: Item icons

    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto
    Ok, I lied, I have another question: Is it ok if we truncate the TP/Hit values on weapons to 1 decimal place, since that's what actually happens to them ingame?
    One of the things with the wiki is that we like to keep things as close to the original dat files as possible, so please do not truncate.

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    Re: Item icons

    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto
    Thanks Septimus, I'm a 360 player so I don't know how to get these icons myself, but if you have a stack of them in line to be uploaded that you'd like help on let me know, I have a bunch of free time to upload them if provided w/ the icons.
    I would have to rename all of them, since they have their item numbers in front of them. I've been thinking of ways to speed up the process...
    What is the format they need to be renamed to? (like from '%5B00016605%5D%20Enhancing%20Sword.png' to 'Enhancing_Sword.png'?) That's not a huge deal if I'm already going to be fixing up item pages, not like that's a fast process anyways.

    Edit: Also, this is the first item page I've fixed and I'm kinda new to this, can you please look at it real quick and make sure I didn't fuck anything up?
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Enhancing_Sword
    Well, it is the sheer volume of icons that need to be renamed. There are 13,311 item icons, most of them are not used though. I am toying with a method to rename them and deploy them to the web so that they can easily be uploaded to the wiki.

    Looks good, but you also have to get rid of the Tagging and Semantics categories.
    I just exported all the icons and renamed them all, there wouldn't be a way for me to mass upload them to the wiki would there? >_>

    Alternatively, I could rar them up and post here

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