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    PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    http://belkinator.livejournal.com/

    I know people have been asking about this for some time now. Finished for your viewing pleasure. Enjoy.

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    Ear: Loquacious Earring Spellcasting Time -2%, Spell Recast Time -1%
    other way around i believe

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by Sifer
    Ear: Loquacious Earring Spellcasting Time -2%, Spell Recast Time -1%
    other way around i believe
    Fast Cast is X% reduction in recast time, X2% reduction in spell-casting time.

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    Code:
    Head: Walahra Turban                              +5% Haste
    Hands: Homam Manopolas                       +3% Haste
    Legs: Homam Cosciales                          +3% Haste, Spellcasting Time -2%, Spell Recast Time -1%
    Feet: Homam Gambieras                         +3% Haste
    Waist: Swift Belt                                      +4% Haste
    Ear: Loquacious Earring                           Spellcasting Time -2%, Spell Recast Time -1%
    (nitpicking) If you're getting Haste and double Marches, you only need 15% in gear to cap out your recast.

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    otherwiki says homam pants are 4% and 2%, and i read somewhere before they are 3% and 1.5%, now you say they are 2% and 1%. where have they been tested?

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by Belkin
    Use this set of gear for ALL cures, Sentinel
    If I'm not mistaken, didn't Kaeko's emnity business show that Sentinel basically puts you at +100 emnity for its duration, which is the cap? Rather, wouldn't it be benificial to wear something other than emnity+ during Sentinel since your emnity+ would be capped already?

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto
    Quote Originally Posted by Belkin
    Use this set of gear for ALL cures, Sentinel
    If I'm not mistaken, didn't Kaeko's emnity business show that Sentinel basically puts you at +100 emnity for its duration, which is the cap? Rather, wouldn't it be benificial to wear something other than emnity+ during Sentinel since your emnity+ would be capped already?
    Yes, though the +100 may not be in effect at the moment Sentinel is used, therefore making +Enmity good for the moment you pop the ability, and w/e else you use good for afterwards.

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferien
    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto
    Quote Originally Posted by Belkin
    Use this set of gear for ALL cures, Sentinel
    If I'm not mistaken, didn't Kaeko's emnity business show that Sentinel basically puts you at +100 emnity for its duration, which is the cap? Rather, wouldn't it be benificial to wear something other than emnity+ during Sentinel since your emnity+ would be capped already?
    Yes, though the +100 may not be in effect at the moment Sentinel is used, therefore making +Enmity good for the moment you pop the ability, and w/e else you use good for afterwards.
    Gotcha, thanks.

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    Nice guide, well written, the only mistake I noticed was Bream Sushi, which as far as I knew did not give Enmity, that would be Dorado Sushi. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    You are right, Bream has VIT. I probably wrote it because it was sitting in my inventory at the time haha.

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    Very solid guide.

    Minor nitpick: "employed" rather than "implored" in the third paragraph.

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    I fix the stuff as you post it, thanks for the nitpicks

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    Decent guide, would at least help ppl to figure out their own way of tanking. I don't really use any of those sets myself but I do mix most of that gear.

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    Good guide man. Also good Nin/Drk tank guide.

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    Now, to make the mages macro my name in their macros... That's the greatest challenge of a PLD nowadays... lol

    I only blink for :Ichi casting myself, to prevent "miss-cures". Another solution is to load enmity in slots like Neck, Waist, etc... for Cures, less Enmity return, but well...

    I second the usefulness of the Free Cures macros on yourself, a cheap one can be made with a BQ Ring and a Pigeon earring for Free Cure II's by instance... Many options available for this, without needing to blink...

    Good guide Belkin, now I can be lazy and redirect everyone to your LJ. For this, I <3 you.

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    Enmity section:
    Legs: Adaman Cuisses, Gallant Breeches
    Feet: Valor Leggings, Adaman Sabatons
    Nicely written guide, now I just need to convince some people to read & follow it >_>

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by Taliesin
    Now, to make the mages macro my name in their macros... That's the greatest challenge of a PLD nowadays... lol

    I only blink for :Ichi casting myself, to prevent "miss-cures". Another solution is to load enmity in slots like Neck, Waist, etc... for Cures, less Enmity return, but well...

    I second the usefulness of the Free Cures macros on yourself, a cheap one can be made with a BQ Ring and a Pigeon earring for Free Cure II's by instance... Many options available for this, without needing to blink...

    Good guide Belkin, now I can be lazy and redirect everyone to your LJ. For this, I <3 you.
    or you could swap in ether+electrum rings>BQ+sattva+pigeon and make that a c3

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    Very well written and organized guide. Needs more pretty pictures though!

    I personally find it hilarious that you don't use a single piece of koenig armor in any of your macros. Most PLDs I know still keep an "oh shit" macro for when something goes wrong and recast timers are all screwy.

    It's great that you make a point of telling PLDs to cure bomb anyone they can for hate. In the same vein it's important that mages keep track of PLD MP and only top people off when PLDs can't do it. When both the PLDs and the mages are aware of this, it is a great means of controlling hate in longer fights.

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    Great guide, very well-written. I don't play PLD anymore but I still read the whole thing, it was interesting.

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    Re: PLD/NIN Tanking Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenmonk
    or you could swap in ether+electrum rings>BQ+sattva+pigeon and make that a c3
    Never thought about this....

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