dynamis auto-lot upon forced dynamis exit discovery{?}

[Izzy]

its the same with salvage drops(e.g. not able to pass stuff before you zone out after a boss)
got some lolmarduk hands cause of that :/

Wait..

So If someone DCs during salvage and comes back, and lets say we kill the boss with 5 seconds left on the clock. The armor will go to the person that reloged, instead of being lost?

Yes, so if you're going after a Ares body and you have 3 mins left, have the person you want to get it log out and back in and if you get kicked out with it in the pool that person should get it AS LONG AS THEY DON'T PASS!!!

Test it with some cells next run. It might not work the same way because Salvage uses party loot pool dynamics instead of zone loot pool dynamics.

[Neosutra]

Ill try this out, I guess I never figured it out because I usually kick people from my shell with connection problems...

[Casey_]

It should still work as long as the player is in the PT, the auto-kick most likely uses a for loop like so, obviously not exactly what SE uses, names are just me being lazy too, they could use do while, or some other craziness in a state

for (i=0; i<numplayers; i++)
kick(player[i]);

would kick player ID 0,1,2,3,4..etc in an order, and if they're smart the player list would remove the player upon logout D/C etc, and re-add them to the end of the list when re-entering.

[Spekkio]

just recently we finished off LBC with seconds on the clock (don't ask why. i take the blame for it though. ><) and nobody got the drops. fortunately (i guess) the skadi shoes we were after didn't drop and the other 2 weren't really needed at the time, so it wasn't a big deal, but i don't think you're right about salvage working the same way. easy enough to test though. go into an assault, exit while there are still crystals in the pool, and see if anyone gets them.

[Neosutra]

just recently we finished off LBC with seconds on the clock (don't ask why. i take the blame for it though. ><) and nobody got the drops. fortunately (i guess) the skadi shoes we were after didn't drop and the other 2 weren't really needed at the time, so it wasn't a big deal, but i don't think you're right about salvage working the same way. easy enough to test though. go into an assault, exit while there are still crystals in the pool, and see if anyone gets them.

I think that unless someone relogs, it considers everyone in salvage to have "entered at the same time".

[Spekkio]

just recently we finished off LBC with seconds on the clock (don't ask why. i take the blame for it though. ><) and nobody got the drops. fortunately (i guess) the skadi shoes we were after didn't drop and the other 2 weren't really needed at the time, so it wasn't a big deal, but i don't think you're right about salvage working the same way. easy enough to test though. go into an assault, exit while there are still crystals in the pool, and see if anyone gets them.

I think that unless someone relogs, it considers everyone in salvage to have "entered at the same time".

i know we had someone dc on that run b/c one of our guys has had a horiffic connection. regardless, that shouldn't matter b/c last to enter is only relevant in that they are also last to exit. it defines WHO gets it, not IF someone gets it. in the case of salvage, everyone's booted together, never giving a situation where only 1 person exists in the zone, forcing items out.

[Neosutra]

just recently we finished off LBC with seconds on the clock (don't ask why. i take the blame for it though. ><) and nobody got the drops. fortunately (i guess) the skadi shoes we were after didn't drop and the other 2 weren't really needed at the time, so it wasn't a big deal, but i don't think you're right about salvage working the same way. easy enough to test though. go into an assault, exit while there are still crystals in the pool, and see if anyone gets them.

I think that unless someone relogs, it considers everyone in salvage to have "entered at the same time".

i know we had someone dc on that run b/c one of our guys has had a horiffic connection. regardless, that shouldn't matter b/c last to enter is only relevant in that they are also last to exit. it defines WHO gets it, not IF someone gets it. in the case of salvage, everyone's booted together, never giving a situation where only 1 person exists in the zone, forcing items out.

This isnt true.

[Seditedi]

its the same with salvage drops(e.g. not able to pass stuff before you zone out after a boss)
got some lolmarduk hands cause of that :/

Wait..

So If someone DCs during salvage and comes back, and lets say we kill the boss with 5 seconds left on the clock. The armor will go to the person that reloged, instead of being lost?

It gets lost I'm pretty sure.
Dynamis acts differently.

[Neosutra]

I actually remember a guy dcing and logging back in just as we zoned out and he actually got the armor that dropped off SSR gyro1. But have never seen anything like this elsewhere because it hasnt come up.

And getting alot of mixed info here.

[Wizerd]

Would have to test Salvage but I assume since Salvage areas are less laggy than Dynamis areas, that everyone gets kicked quick enough and *usually* things will be totally lost, but sometimes they'll go to the last one in the loop.

[Xrave]

I used to use this trick way back in the day and it worked well (in Dynamis), however I never had the chance to see if it worked with AF2 instead of non rare/ex items.

[Izzy]

I used to use this trick way back in the day and it worked well (in Dynamis), however I never had the chance to see if it worked with AF2 instead of non rare/ex items.

It works with AF2. I got a pair of Cleric's Pantaloons like this. We had some dead people in Jeuno and I relogged so I could get them. I needed them to store my set.

Just try it in your next Salvage Neo. Log out with cells in pool, log back in before time is up. Make sure you get reinvited to the party.

[Sylvaria]

its the same with salvage drops(e.g. not able to pass stuff before you zone out after a boss)
got some lolmarduk hands cause of that :/

Wait..

So If someone DCs during salvage and comes back, and lets say we kill the boss with 5 seconds left on the clock. The armor will go to the person that reloged, instead of being lost?

Yes, so if you're going after a Ares body and you have 3 mins left, have the person you want to get it log out and back in and if you get kicked out with it in the pool that person should get it AS LONG AS THEY DON'T PASS!!!

Test it with some cells next run. It might not work the same way because Salvage uses party loot pool dynamics instead of zone loot pool dynamics.

what i ment isnt that much about relog and reenter,its about zoning out while you dc and the game puts you to the end of the exit-list,means whoever is dcing WHILE the game throws you out(and then logs back and still appears in the zone before he gets thrown out after everyone else) gets the stuff

[Riker]

Just for the record, GM Buuren is the uber pimp

[Seditedi]

what i ment isnt that much about relog and reenter,its about zoning out while you dc and the game puts you to the end of the exit-list,means whoever is dcing WHILE the game throws you out(and then logs back and still appears in the zone before he gets thrown out after everyone else) gets the stuff

Wut.. no, that doesn't really have anything to do with it. You don't have to DC while the game is clearing the Dynamis zone >_>. If you enter last then you are last on the exit list hence you will get the items or if you DC at any time in the zone then log back in you will get placed last on the exit list and the same outcome will take place. It has jack shit to do with DC'ing while the game kicks you out >_>.

[Lhexh]

what i ment isnt that much about relog and reenter,its about zoning out while you dc and the game puts you to the end of the exit-list,means whoever is dcing WHILE the game throws you out(and then logs back and still appears in the zone before he gets thrown out after everyone else) gets the stuff

Wut.. no, that doesn't really have anything to do with it. You don't have to DC while the game is clearing the Dynamis zone >_>. If you enter last then you are last on the exit list hence you will get the items or if you DC at any time in the zone then log back in you will get placed last on the exit list and the same outcome will take place. It has jack shit to do with DC'ing while the game kicks you out >_>.

Actually force dc'ing yourself at the end will have the exact same effect. Had it happen to myself a long time ago where we beat a chariot at 30s warning with near total wipe, I force dc'd myself and found both drops in my inventory when I logged back into game next day.

[Izzy]

what i ment isnt that much about relog and reenter,its about zoning out while you dc and the game puts you to the end of the exit-list,means whoever is dcing WHILE the game throws you out(and then logs back and still appears in the zone before he gets thrown out after everyone else) gets the stuff

Wut.. no, that doesn't really have anything to do with it. You don't have to DC while the game is clearing the Dynamis zone >_>. If you enter last then you are last on the exit list hence you will get the items or if you DC at any time in the zone then log back in you will get placed last on the exit list and the same outcome will take place. It has jack shit to do with DC'ing while the game kicks you out >_>.

Actually force dc'ing yourself at the end will have the exact same effect. Had it happen to myself a long time ago where we beat a chariot at 30s warning with near total wipe, I force dc'd myself and found both drops in my inventory when I logged back into game next day.

Probably because your shit ass connection had you DC earlier in the run, thus making you the last person in the zone. Just because you're DCing for 30 seconds, doesn't mean your "hourglass" or whatever DC's as well. It keeps counting.

[Wizerd]

what i ment isnt that much about relog and reenter,its about zoning out while you dc and the game puts you to the end of the exit-list,means whoever is dcing WHILE the game throws you out(and then logs back and still appears in the zone before he gets thrown out after everyone else) gets the stuff

Wut.. no, that doesn't really have anything to do with it. You don't have to DC while the game is clearing the Dynamis zone >_>. If you enter last then you are last on the exit list hence you will get the items or if you DC at any time in the zone then log back in you will get placed last on the exit list and the same outcome will take place. It has jack shit to do with DC'ing while the game kicks you out >_>.

Actually force dc'ing yourself at the end will have the exact same effect. Had it happen to myself a long time ago where we beat a chariot at 30s warning with near total wipe, I force dc'd myself and found both drops in my inventory when I logged back into game next day.

Probably because your shit ass connection had you DC earlier in the run, thus making you the last person in the zone. Just because you're DCing for 30 seconds, doesn't mean your "hourglass" or whatever DC's as well. It keeps counting.

You're right it keeps counting, but it's similar to the bug on the (working) ships, where if you're d/cing during the ship docking part, and then recover, you're still on the ship and you supposedly get to see some more scenery.

The game won't zone someone while they're d/cing, so they are essentially the last person in the zone (until they drop from the game) when they time out. Next time I can, I will try pulling my cord @ 5sec left, and then plugging it back in 10sec later and see if I get the drops due to lagging over exit time and the game not being able to read what's going on with my character.

[Trayu]

well, seeing the posts here, at xarca a long ass time ago (maybe the autolot wasn't implemented) we got a shadow ring drop, but someone was afk... so, knowing that there was not enough time to let it drop, we all dc'd except for the afk person and the one who lotted the drop. Neither had the ring, or maybe the afk person had it and just kinda...
this was over a year ago tho

[Izzy]

well, seeing the posts here, at xarca a long ass time ago (maybe the autolot wasn't implemented) we got a shadow ring drop, but someone was afk... so, knowing that there was not enough time to let it drop, we all dc'd except for the afk person and the one who lotted the drop. Neither had the ring, or maybe the afk person had it and just kinda...
this was over a year ago tho

AFK person has the ring lol. Unless his inventory was full.