Changes Scheduled for the March Version Update (03/04/2008)

[Octavious]

Wow, 4 pages before it became yet another Q_Q topic hehe...damnit I had 5 pgs in the pool, now I owe people money...There is one part of me that wishes Sage Sundi will jump out and say "JAYKAY HERE'S THE REAL UPDATE" but it doesn't happen. Meh, I'll be appeased with the update if the EXP band turns out to be win, if not then I'll probably commence the QQ'ing as well. Speaking of QQ'ing (whimpering?) this came to mind:

This is the way FF ends,
This is the way FF ends,
This is the way FF ends,
Not with a bang, but a whimper.

Idk, I thought it sums up what happens to everyone when a version update is on the horizon hehe. Poetry Ftw!

[Alleya]

http://bluegartr.com/img/022908/fellows.jpg

[Tonko]

Seriously, read our monthly update. It pretty much sums up this entire thread spot on.

[BerenTebogo]

Childish tirade.

Wow, FFXI really is serious business.

Update does seem pretty sub par so far, but I'm going to wait to see the full info update day to judge. More potent exp. band is nice.

Wow, I'm so childish to not want a company I willingly pay monthly fees for to spew bullshit in my face, maybe if you fucking learned some reading comprehension, my main gripe is taking 7 fucking update notes about this shit.

I'm well aware there are plenty of douchebags abound, probably much like yourself, who are pleased with some of this content, I myself am happy over NPC update, but over 3 weeks for what we've gotten so far.

They're stalling, and for better or worse, lying to us about stalling. I would've rather they waited 3 weeks to start the update notes, or given a more realistic timeline, it's the suspense of reading everything every morning, and having it be horse-shit that is pissing people off more than the content itself.

Now please, go back to pleasuring yourself with a rumble-pack, I don't, and I'm fairly sure plenty of other people don't, need your petty trash about how 'oh it'll get better'

We all fucking know it'll get better you monstrous cumholes, we're not vacant, just don't appreciate being treated like children with car keys dangled in front of them, shiny placating toys are not always the solution. Sometimes it's best to just say 'Hey, we're a bit behind, but it's coming, don't worry' ONE TIME, and leave it at that, instead of trying to mask the grandeur of the fuck-up that is occurring right now.

Fucking hypocrites, honestly, half the people I see bitching about people bitching are the same people who band-wagon'd hating taj, then loving taj, and all that shit. Go argue for the sake of argument elsewhere, cockbags.

[Ryko]

I wonder how it's remotely unreasonable for people to be chomping at the bit for an update teaser that doesn't look like we've regressed back to 2005. It looks like they're rummaging around the bargain bin for update ideas at the moment, which doesn't exactly say wonders for that super special awesome expansion they just put in.

The sad part is that this one was by far the most detailed.

[Isiolia]

The ring is gonna make XP fly by extremely fast, yet accomplish nothing of value?

Why put a third in if it's not significantly better than the two that are already available is more my point.

It was a crack on Dragonforce, not the ring

rofl, now i gets it XD

[sleekmotorwurkz]

Im curious..
The the last fan fest, didnt they have a discussion and list the jobs they were planning to adjust for the next version update?
I remember reading about them wanting to add new high lvl automaton WS' and such. But I can't find the link anymore. Anyone remember where this info was discussed?

Yes there was a whole list of future job changes they wanted to make... If someone could find the actual info that would be great, but some of the things i remember was...

New Avatars for smn
Enhanced usefullness for elemental avatars smn

War tanking ability

Rdm melee ability

I seem to remember something about mnk where they could raise kick attack frequency by losing some damage. Sounded like somewhat of a "kick attack stance"

they told us about repose and accomplice which they already implemented. There were changed planned for just about every job. Im sure they have added some of them we will find about next tuesday.

[BerenTebogo]

Also, as an addendum, the whole 'Oh well you still pay you don't have a right to bitch blah blah I think I'm clever" argument...shove it up your asses.

As with any company, or service provided the customers and the stockholders are the only ones whose opinion matters, ALL of them, not just the ones who hug their nuts, ever heard of a SWOT analysis? Maybe you have, maybe you haven't, go look it up.

SE is failing at analyzing their weaknesses, and taking only constructive opinions and ideas about their company as valid, not realizing that a large amount of their player base is unsatisfied with how they're running their company. The only way to evaluate weakness as a business is to approach it head on, embrace it, and then actively try to fix it.

Time after time SE only listens to a specific part of the player base, is it larger? Maybe, it's still not excusable, and frankly, as a paying customer it sure as hell is my god-given right to be unhappy with the service provided to me.

Does that mean because I'm unhappy > I < should have to change? I should have to say, 'oh well, I quit'? No, that's not how business works you cumfarts.

Grow the fuck up, corporations would be nothing without the people who are unhappy with them, they'd be stagnant fleshbowls of mediocrity, much like you fags.

[sleekmotorwurkz]

found it...
WAR:- Ability to automatically strike back (ala Counter) and Store TP from the attack.
They mentioned this would be tied to provoke, and that was being 'considered'

MNK:- Considering new ability to slow attack speed of monk but increases attack power per hit.
This was a kick attack modifier. It had nothing to do with main attacks as was presented, only that it would increase the frequency of kicks and the over all strength of melee attacks while reducing attack speed. CONSIDERED Buy vishnu's cesti now whore's.

WHM:- Repose spell: SLEEP for WHM!
- More teleport spells!
Nothing to add here. Skill set wasnt mentioned. teleports where said to be NEXT update

BLM:- Lowering the rate monsters resist Skillchains
- New transportation spells for BLMs
LOL. They got boo'ed a bit here firstly. They very quickly snuck in the transporation blm spells, and gave no further hints than that. CONSIDERED

RDM:- Increasing RDM's usefulness as a FRONTLINE mage, meleeing
Same here. Can't add anything other than they wanted RDM to be a mage that can also do melee damage. This seemed like more for parties and not endgame. CONSIDERED

THF:- New JA: Accomplice - STEAL HALF a party member's ENMITY and transfer to the THF.
First big WHOO FUCKING HOO moment. Crowd went nuts @ this.

PLD:- Damage reflect with shield
As further discussed in the Elmer thread, here they said 'magic that will reflect damage'. again, considered

DRK:- DRK specific spells
Quote: We envisioned DRK as a melee that had Black magic, and we're happy with the magic we've added. Expect more in the future. They didn't confirm if tues was gonna add anything

BST:- HP recovered by pets using stay
- Snarl added, used for jug pets.. to transfer ALL hate to pet
- Add pet food for curing status effects
Pet food is CONSIDERED. Reward timers are CONSIDERED. Everything else is tuesday.Crowd went fucking nuts.

BRD:- New songs
- Ability select single targets for AOE spells.
Um....I don't remember if this is considered of in the update. I was listening to people jabber about the BST un-nerf.

RNG:- New Velocity Shot - Ranged attacks are quicker and more powerful
Again, can't remember if this was CONSIDERED, JAN update, OR tuesday. Sorry. Ranged attacks + comes at the expense of melee attacks being weakend

SAM:- Adjustments will be made due to 2handed updates
- Ability to improve effectiveness of SC's, increasing damage for SC's
SAM was targted specifically because of 'store tp, mediate, and the soboro for 'adjustment'. Expect a store TP nerf IMO. The SC's buffs are just going to help everyone.

NIN:- Sneak effect NINJUTSU
- Temporary reducing enmity then bringing it back up
CONSIDERED, not confirmed

DRG:- Increasing the number of actions of wyvern
- Bloodpacts for Wyvern!
CONSIDERED, not confirmed

SMN:- New ability, Healing MP via elemental spirits.
- ..........Odin Prime?
I uh...don't remember a new abliity. the healing MP was mentioned as a day of the week effect, and also was mentioned as CONSIDERED. Also, they said new SUMMONS PLURAL

BLU:- New spells
In jan update. Nothing else. Haha.

COR:- New rolls for new jobs
- New effect for Quickdraw
Jan update.

PUP:- New automaton attachments
- New automaton weaponskills for high level PUPs
Jan update, WS = considered.


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[hexagram23]

dance emotes (don't kid yourself about them listening to you. these are only included because someone with talent animated them for the dancer job and the updaters realized they could add them in like ten minutes)

No, people did ask for it. And they kept asking and asking and asking. They wouldn't let it go, and now as a result I have to hear people on the BG forums bitch about it. Do you think that Square would have put forth that 10 minutes worth of effort on their own had people not asked for it incessantly? Hell no, that is 10 minutes they would have otherwise spent looking at Mithra porn. This is 100% the player base's fault, don't bitch at Square, go over to Zam and bitch at them.

Oh wait, this is Zam now.

The way you constantly defend SE is extremely disturbing, especially when so many people here are complaining.

Yes people asked for these changes. That doesn't mean they wanted them all in one sub-par update, after an expansion that had very little content to begin with. Also, they could've released some actual info like job adjustments, etc. that the majority of people are interesting in, and kept the silly ass Panration/Dance Emotes/NPC shit to themselves until the day the Update Notes came out. Even if this update has some good stuff there is no reason to spread lame NPC/Panration/Battle Music announcements out over the course of a month and a half.

[miokomioko]

The way you constantly defend SE is extremely disturbing, especially when so many people here are complaining.

Count the amount of people posting bitching/moaning about the update notes.

Now count the amount of people not posting bitching/moaning about the update notes.

[BerenTebogo]

The way you constantly defend SE is extremely disturbing, especially when so many people here are complaining.

Count the amount of people posting bitching/moaning about the update notes.

Now count the amount of people not posting bitching/moaning about the update notes.

Your argument is akin to 'Well, you're wrong because the majority doesn't agree with you' that's really the stance you want to take? Half-assed communism on the internet as the sole justification for your argument?

Really?

REALLY?

Thought the resident 'I'm so indie it hurts' guy would be pro-communist if anything, if for nothing else than being a hip individual.

[Nyuneko]

Early March would imply being before the 15th or 16th, which is 11 days from now, so we have about 1 week, giving the benefit of doubt, and that they actually wait until the 15th or 16th(or later) to implement the patch, there should be about 3 more teasers at most? It is well possible that the 3(may be more, may be less) teasers that might come, will have something that everyone might care for(job update, recipe, salvage/nyzul/instance-stuffs updates, etc)...

The egg-citing event is also due to start on the 13th, given that we are getting 3 new eggs furnishings, it is very likely that our patch will arrive on the 13th, so they don't have to close the server again a few days later for the actual patch... So I'd say we have less than 11 days left, to wait for the supposed real contents that the anti-QQers are talking about.

However, I am gonna place my bet on that there won't be any OMG updates this upcoming patch, I enjoy reading the QQs, some I agree with, some I disagree with(all the "please update ground" complaints for example), but least I know that people are entitled to their own opinions about the game they play, if everyone only know how to suck the SE's dev's team, how would they know what needs to be changed? It's all part of the feedback process, if they are indeed listening, they would at least try to do something fast to please the customers(there is no special customer, but there is such thing as "the more the better"), and if both the JP and EN are crying about their recent update "teasers"(Can you still call these "teasers"?), then, may be, may be, there really is something fundamentally lacking in their update news?

For now, the update is still very exciting to me, just looking forward to see all the QQings when it is released.

[sleekmotorwurkz]

dance emotes (don't kid yourself about them listening to you. these are only included because someone with talent animated them for the dancer job and the updaters realized they could add them in like ten minutes)

No, people did ask for it. And they kept asking and asking and asking. They wouldn't let it go, and now as a result I have to hear people on the BG forums bitch about it. Do you think that Square would have put forth that 10 minutes worth of effort on their own had people not asked for it incessantly? Hell no, that is 10 minutes they would have otherwise spent looking at Mithra porn. This is 100% the player base's fault, don't bitch at Square, go over to Zam and bitch at them.

Oh wait, this is Zam now.

The way you constantly defend SE is extremely disturbing, especially when so many people here are complaining.

Yes people asked for these changes. That doesn't mean they wanted them all in one sub-par update, after an expansion that had very little content to begin with. Also, they could've released some actual info like job adjustments, etc. that the majority of people are interesting in, and kept the silly ass Panration/Dance Emotes/NPC shit to themselves until the day the Update Notes came out. Even if this update has some good stuff there is no reason to spread lame NPC/Panration/Battle Music announcements out over the course of a month and a half.

We all know all the good stuff comes out in the update notes from that day or in the last update notice, just because they havent given us much to be excited about so far everyone jumps on the "fuck SE" bandwagon... and you know what? You will keep paying for the game that you think sucks so much, and you will keep playing it. Regardless, there will be some sweet updates in the patch, that im sure of, and people are gonna be saying omg thats the best thing evarrrrrrrr. And all the people bitching about how shitty this update is are gonna be on that bandwagon too.

*note, i love when people bitch out bg members on their own forum though i suppose im doing that now also from the other end

[Xno Kappa]

I swear it....I will become Asura's very best!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbu-a29Fdco

EDIT: 100th post bitches!

[Kaslo]

Well since SE added an emote to the /dance , there will probably be alot of new "dance emotes" custom made out in the .DAT community.
Hopefully the dance animation dats won't be as complex as the dancers actual animations and be easier to modify O_o

In before Thriller .dat is released

[Intense]

Thought the resident 'I'm so indie it hurts' guy would be pro-communist if anything, if for nothing else than being a hip individual.

I rofl'd

[ronin sparthos]

$20 says they are doing this to watch everyone get their panties in a bunch and squirm about until they see the official day-of update patch notes where they add Nyzul weapon upgrades, Sneak ninjutsu, new Automaton frame, new jug pets, new Avatar, relic armor for Blue Mage/Puppetmaster/Corsair, new Blue Mage spells, Scholar and Puppetmaster JSE, and increased droppage for Einherjar, blah blah blah.

If that was the case, why dont they throw some good chum in the water for the sharky playerbase instead of shit about pankration which is a novel idea but is flawed due to the lack of rewards. Pankration could be a better gig if they actually fixed the core instead of dancing around the issue, thats basically baiting to piss people off when the event has no point besides saying 'man i whooped your pokemons ass'.

Nyzul Relic notice should have been thrown in the water already, whats the purpose of holding that back? Thats not going to clog up Nyzul since people have been sitting on the base weapons for months now.

Sneak Ninjutsu.... good idea, not gamebreaking news. It'll be inflated for a while and god knows that if the items used to make it arent common that its going to go the way of obsidian bolts and water/wind/earth arrows.

Increased Einherjar drops... when they said they think its fine? Naw. Maybe next year if we're lucky.

New BLU spells has been already announced by SE, Asuran Claws and Pandemic Nip look like the spells of choice to get - if they feel generous they will give a wivre spell which is kinda overdue.

Relic Armor is a big announcement, there looks like room for one more update with gamebreaking news and i doubt any of the main BLU/COR/PUPs are expecting that to be relic armor. They said it wouldnt be coming out anytime soon anyways...

New Avatars are a update day annoucement, Jug Pets update would have been something exciting - Peiste pets would be sick.

Septimus is sorta right when people asked for dances, but the fact is that SE should be saving all this kinda 'side-shit' for a small updates littered between the major 3month updates.

I think SE is just starting to fail with the cockteasing, saying we're adding new items to the Adventurer Recruitment Program is really gonna stir up excitement... >.>

Well, lets hope they are calling everyones bluff - ive never seen them hold the fort on all the big things for so long really. Usually the week before the update you get a major announcement followed by the major update notic on patch day.

[Kayos]

Count the amount of people posting bitching/moaning about the update notes.

Now count the amount of people not posting bitching/moaning about the update notes.

Now I am not a math major but it seems to me that a strong majority of people are bitching/moaning.

[Khamsin]

I wouldn't be surprised if this really were just to tease us until patch day, but it is pretty comical nonetheless to see a new update thread and the first on the list is new emotes. Personally, I hope the trend continues and that every update announcement has something even more mundane and trivial than the last, so I can keep laughing. And then on patch day, my dreams can be shattered and I'll cry when the only new changes announced during maintenance are concerning fish ranking.