School Bus Driver assaults student on Bus.

[Correction]

Maybe it's where I'm from, and I ride a city bus instead of a k-12 school bus, but it's what I deal with basically everyday, people that have this job that act like they couldn't care less and that they hate their job. Not saying that they do, but that's how they act.

Yeah poor you, having to 'deal with' people who work at underpaid, dirty, unpleasant jobs with long hours.

[Tricen]

I've never met a NICE, old retired blahblah bus driver ever, it's always some mean fat guy who hates life, and lets everyone they're driving around know it. So, that's why I said what I said.

My bus driver from K-12 was great. Name was Lyle, treated the kids like equals. Was a real nice guy.

Probably because he wanted to have sex with you.

[Lbelle]

Maybe it's where I'm from, and I ride a city bus instead of a k-12 school bus, but it's what I deal with basically everyday, people that have this job that act like they couldn't care less and that they hate their job. Not saying that they do, but that's how they act.

Yeah poor you, having to 'deal with' people who work at underpaid, dirty, unpleasant jobs with long hours.

Haha, it's not like I'm asking for sympathy at all in this situation. I even stated that they probably dislike their jobs, however I don't intentionally do anything to make it worse, and also said that I even try to be pleasant everytime I get on/off the bus. But yes, it is having to deal with people, you deal with people every single day, what else would you call it?

[Khamsin]

Well, now I'm curious. Hypothetical scenario for the BG lawyers:

A 30+ year old guy is walking along the sidewalk when some 15 year old punk comes along and tries to assault him. So he defends himself and ends up hitting the kid. The kids parents end up trying to press charges on the older guy for child abuse. Would they win? Or would the court justify hitting the kid when he probably wasn't in any danger to begin with (unless the kid had a weapon)?

What state?

California, Texas, Alabama, wherever.

[Correction]

Well, now I'm curious. Hypothetical scenario for the BG lawyers:

A 30+ year old guy is walking along the sidewalk when some 15 year old punk comes along and tries to assault him. So he defends himself and ends up hitting the kid. The kids parents end up trying to press charges on the older guy for child abuse. Would they win? Or would the court justify hitting the kid when he probably wasn't in any danger to begin with (unless the kid had a weapon)?

What state?

California, Texas, Alabama, wherever.

Child Abuse is a very specific criminal charge that isn't thrown at people who punch kids who assaulted them, and it's certainly not something someone's parents can bring to a civil suit. Juveniles can be charged with assault, but if it's your word versus the kid's you might have a tough time proving who swung first, unless the kid's already got a record.

But yes, it is having to deal with people, you deal with people every single day, what else would you call it?

I'd call it having unrealistic expectations of people who work around total strangers in a crappy environment every day of their lives. If a bus driver wants to be left alone by the riders that's entirley his/her perogative, and I'd call it a coping mechanism and not think they're some kind of antisocial loser just because they don't acknowledge my presence and how nice I am to them when I ride the bus. Yeah they have a crappy job, but if you're making 11 bucks an hour you kind of need those 11 bucks an hour so in order to keep your job you use whatever survival skills you have. Not everyone gets through their day smelling roses and singing songs. I don't expect cops to be polite to the average citizen for the exact same reason. Whatever you're 'dealing with' is just you projecting unearned disappointment at someone who doesn't care who you are or what you do.

[Lbelle]

I'd call it having unrealistic expectations of people who work around total strangers in a crappy environment every day of their lives. If a bus driver wants to be left alone by the riders that's entirley his/her perogative, and I'd call it a coping mechanism and not think they're some kind of antisocial loser just because they don't acknowledge my presence and how nice I am to them when I ride the bus. Yeah they have a crappy job, but if you're making 11 bucks an hour you kind of need those 11 bucks an hour so in order to keep your job you use whatever survival skills you have. Not everyone gets through their day smelling roses and singing songs. I don't expect cops to be polite to the average citizen for the exact same reason. Whatever you're 'dealing with' is just you projecting unearned disappointment at someone who doesn't care who you are or what you do.

I don't know, I feel like I'm nice to them as much as I can be. I don't expect them to be nice in return, but I don't expect them to be rude to me in return for being nice, you know? Yes they are in a crappy environment, and I'm happy that they are making money for themselves, and that's where I agree with you 100%. I also know that not everyone "gets through their day smelling roses and singing songs" but wouldn't you think that if someone has a crappy job, that someone being genuinely thankful for their service and letting them know, that they MIGHT be nice SOMETIMES??

[thestalkmore]

Lemme try again:

If you're such a fuck up that your mode of transportation is a bus, then you should expect people to treat you like you don't exist.

Better?

ohsnap

[Kuya]

Lemme try again:

If you're such a fuck up that your mode of transportation is a bus, then you should expect people to treat you like you don't exist.

Better?

ohsnap

snap, crackle, and pop

[Lbelle]

lots of people ride the bus to work, school, or just to get across the country that doesnt make them fuckups and I didn't mean to make it sound like that either sigh...

here, let's all eat and be friends?

[Khelek]

If you're such a fuck up that your job is to be a school bus driver, then you should expect people to laugh at you.

Honestly, if you're such a fuckup that you think a person's job determines whether or not said person is a fuckup, you need to ask yourself where things went wrong.

[Brill Weave]

I would like to find out what the resolution on this ends up being. I'm sure that the bus driver will probably get shitcanned for being involved in a physical confrontation with an underage girl. But said girl also pretty much escalated the entire situation with her behavior etc.

All told I hope the bus driver's daughter fucks her shit up in school.

[sunb1ind]

I'd call it having unrealistic expectations of people who work around total strangers in a crappy environment every day of their lives. If a bus driver wants to be left alone by the riders that's entirley his/her perogative, and I'd call it a coping mechanism and not think they're some kind of antisocial loser just because they don't acknowledge my presence and how nice I am to them when I ride the bus. Yeah they have a crappy job, but if you're making 11 bucks an hour you kind of need those 11 bucks an hour so in order to keep your job you use whatever survival skills you have. Not everyone gets through their day smelling roses and singing songs. I don't expect cops to be polite to the average citizen for the exact same reason. Whatever you're 'dealing with' is just you projecting unearned disappointment at someone who doesn't care who you are or what you do.

Good shit here. I've been riding buses all my life. Like archibaldcrane said a friendly "Hey, how are you?" and "Have a good one" will do wonders, especially if you're riding that bus frequently. Of course there's going to be a bus driver you'll come across who just doesn't give a shit. You don't look at it like "oh, I don't like this guy, he's a grumpy piece of shit and doesn't deserve to be driving buses". You don't know what its like to sit in a fuckin seat picking up: dirty, smelly people, loud ass kids, and my favorite holier-than-thou college kids everyday for 10-12hr shifts.

I get on the bus, I say hello, sit my ass down and if I know the bus driver, I will usually carry a small conversation with him. Usually the driver and patron on a city bus will share similar experiences if you're on there cause you can't afford a fuckin car lol But, if I don't know the bus driver, I'm not going to get mad if the man/women isn't in the mood for conversation. Shits depressing as hell when you're slaving over 11 buck an hour. It ain't no cushy call center job that's for sure.

[Lbelle]

I base my opinion of people on how they act to ME, not how all of them act to society as a whole. If every single bus driver I've ever met seems to be a dysfunctional person, then that's all I have to go off of. Their life as a whole might not, and probably isn't fucked up, but their job seems to be to me due to the way they treat their so called "customers" in every case.

[Ryko]

Lemme try again:

If you're such a fuck up that your mode of transportation is a bus, then you should expect people to treat you like you don't exist.

Better?

ohsnap

snap, crackle, and pop

That was pretty saucy.

[sunb1ind]

Keeping in mind FL has one of the worst transportation systems in the country. That could be a good indicator of why you meet so many depressed, angry, or unfriendly bus drivers.

I guess its just natural for me to carry conversation with the bus drivers I ride with. I know they're not unusually "happy" bus drivers where I commute(see:Tampa). So, it may just be the way you approach them.

[Brill Weave]

It ain't no cushy call center job that's for sure.

Schwa? Call center jobs are easily among the worst jobs that you can get. Customers hate you. Employees are usually the dregs from the local neighborhood. You spend your entire work time adhering to a "script" while talking to customers. There is no individuality. No thought process.

[sunb1ind]

Idk man, my chair was PRETTY comfortable. AOL must have been one of the few call centers that provided a mute button and free coffee to employees

[Blarg]

Not sure if this has been said yet but the girl had her mom on the phone giving permission to be let off the bus. Whether that is an acceptable form of permission or not all the parties involved in the situation didn't act the way they should have.

[Nirokun!]

TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH NIROKUN! (lol)

do you think that a busdriver should do anything and everything to "protect" a child and keep them on the bus? because this lady seemed to think physical restraint, hairpulling, shoving, and hitting seemed appropriate to "protect" this girl from walking home (ohnorapists). I think (great way to start a sentance i know) that the busdriver just needs to demonstrate (in court, if anything happened that made her go to court) that she attempted to "protect" the child and keep them on the bus.

believe me, i watched the video with the preconcieved idea that the girl was a spoiled superbitch and the busdriver was doing what she needed to do too; however, you just cannot tell me that it is within the right (and the explicit responsibility) to take (unconstructive) physical action against a child to keep them on the bus.

the girl stopped herself so many times from even cursing at the lady and tried to calm down (the huffing and the puffing, her grabbing the back of her head and talking to her friend) but the busdriver treated her like crap.

bitch: here, talk to my mom
olderbitch: *tossphone*

rinse, repeat

the girl tried, and tried and tried to just leave, and all she wanted was the phone that the busdriver tossed somewhere up front (you can see she just kept looking for it, and yelled back "i just want my phone.")

but if you guys believe that hitting another person to protect them from walking home is ok, well, i dont know what to say to you.

[Charla]

Apparently there's a big difference between "ok" and "the law"