Job and Battle System Adjustments (03/06/2008) (FUCK YEAH)

[Kenai]

Score one for PUP, DNC and SMN!

My PUP will enjoy this, but I really wish they'd just break down and fix the damn Activate timer already. My puppet could actually steal hate in merits with just Daze if he went at the start...and I assume it will only get more hate now. Maybe now I can get a party on PUP though! (lulz)

I still don't "get" what they are saying for SMN's buff. I can hope it's good, if not I can always just ignore it.

Trance buff sounds nice, but I'd really just like Cures that worked on everyone, even if not in my party. I know DNC isn't done or anything, but just saying...


Overall, though, sounds like an excellent update. But is coming...it might take me a while to get to it. Hopefully the Puppet WSes will be figured out by the time I log in next. :elmer:


Edit: And thanks for reminding me how unattractive I'm going to look in Dancer AF. >

[Kenji]

SHIT SON, WHERE ARE MY MUTHER FUCKIN BRENNER UPDATES!?!?!?!!!!??!!!one!

Crappy update... blahblahblah... QQ... SE doesn't have a clue... blahblahblah...

Speaking of which, where is Sath?

Speculation time: the SMN ability is a JA on a 5 minute timer. When you use it, if you have a spirit out, the spirit goes poof and you gain a ton of MP. 400ish or more? Although the wording sounds like you gain all the mp the spirit had. But if spirits have an MP limit, it's pretty big. A 10 minute JA that restores all your MP, then?

And before anyone says, new BLU spells are a given. Also, I believe stoneskin/blink for SCH is a given.

[Bardlet]

I'm thinking one of the requests (Taru Dancers not sharing the exact same AF graphics) got into the update, so Taru F DNC will look like a version of the female AF, Taru M DNC will match up with the other male versions of the AF.

Which is a nice little touch, thank you SE. And I think DNC changes will come slower because frankly, Dancer is not only not bad, it's actually been good from day 1 (and the AF + hopefully later Group 1/2 merits can only improve things).

Now if they do the same with taru SCH AF, I may actually level that job. Not gonna bother if female tarus don't get super cute skirts and instead get fugly pants. :< I want cute skirts! XD

[neochaos]

Ah, and so through the perilous months that have passed that left us in a torturous waiting, we are finally given a ray of hope. (well i am anyways), having all mage jobs leveled this is incredibly amazing thus far. Come on SE, moar wins prz!!!1

[Max™]

I will be so mad if Taru girls don't have at least Skirts and Tights (yeah, the exposed thigh might be a little upsetting but they do wear subligars!) on.

I'll be so mad, I won't level the job either.

Course, I'll never level another mage job again after deleveling Rdm 58 > 35, and still sliding, 1k to 34 go!

[The Blackrose]

Speaking of which, where is Sath?

Someone missed page 1.

[Kenji]

Ya know, there was no whinging, so I completely missed it.

My bad!

[layoneil]

SHIT SON, WHERE ARE MY MUTHER FUCKIN BRENNER UPDATES!?!?!?!!!!??!!!one!

Crappy update... blahblahblah... QQ... SE doesn't have a clue... blahblahblah...

i'd like to know what's so top secret about this update notice they couldn't have put it out last week? what knowledge did people gain from this update notice that they can now use to abuse the game before the actual patch hits?

this update notice is good, if nothing else is added in the next patch besides what has been announced, this update would still be passable (it's still far from being great). but this doesn't make their marketing people any less retarded, they should've switched this with the Fellowship update notice on the 26th.

Speculation time: the SMN ability is a JA on a 5 minute timer. When you use it, if you have a spirit out, the spirit goes poof and you gain a ton of MP. 400ish or more? Although the wording sounds like you gain all the mp the spirit had. But if spirits have an MP limit, it's pretty big. A 10 minute JA that restores all your MP, then?

10 minutes if you can get more than 400 MP, 5 minutes if it's less.

but expectation is going to be 10 minutes and MP you get will be capped at your Summoning Magic Skill.

>.> Am I the only one that doesn't want the new warps to be to the past? I want a warp that sends you to home nation since, you know, that would actually be useful.

why would that be more useful when people can simply HP at their Home Nation?

if the Warp was for Home Nation, i would probably HP in Jeuno again.

[sleekmotorwurkz]

Not sure if it has been said already, but all taru gear use the same .dat file for m and f. If there is gear that is different im not aware of it, and ive been messing with .dats for a long time. So unless they make some change, id be 99% sure that taru dnc and sch AF will be the same for m and f.

[Spider-Dan]

>.> Am I the only one that doesn't want the new warps to be to the past? I want a warp that sends you to home nation since, you know, that would actually be useful.

Not really.
http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/...ru-Haiduru.jpg
+
http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/...ilverPiece.png

Or you can just set HP in home city and have immediate access to Whitegate (wildcat warp) or outpost, with Jeuno being just a short step away (wildcat -> Kaduru).

Past-home-city-warp saves much more time than than present-home-city-warp would.

[Max™]

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/fa...ding-Dress.jpg

(lol@google bringing up alla with the first pic I was after >.>)

I'd like to know where my matching Taru M set of this gear is, plz.

[Trigun]

YO-JIM-BO! (PA-TA-PON!) /dnc bish@!!

[Max™]

Interesting thing I noticed, there are similarities between Wedding Gear, Swimsuits, and a couple other outfits, for tarus at the least.

Still though, there isn't a M counterpart for the Opaline set, the sleeves are similar to the swimsuit, but the shoulders are unique, as are the skirt/fringes, the boots are just ledelsen reskins, the undies I'm not sure about, have to go peep up a taru girls skirt later I guess.

:O

[Charismatic]

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/fa...ding-Dress.jpg

(lol@google bringing up alla with the first pic I was after >.>)

I'd like to know where my matching Taru M set of this gear is, plz.

Only thing that prevents Tarutaru M from wearing this in game is that the gear is coded so that only females can wear it, it's available for Tarutaru males to wear in the .dats because they don't distinguish between Tarutaru males and females when they make the various equipment .dat files.

[spooky]

[quote=Spider-Dan]

>.> Am I the only one that doesn't want the new warps to be to the past? I want a warp that sends you to home nation since, you know, that would actually be useful.

Not really.
http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/...ru-Haiduru.jpg
+
http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/...ilverPiece.png

Or you can just set HP in home city and have immediate access to Whitegate (wildcat warp) or outpost, with Jeuno being just a short step away (wildcat -> Kaduru).

Past-home-city-warp saves much more time than than present-home-city-warp would.[/quote:1orcalqx]
There's also chocobo stable scarf! Or Tav ring -> OP.
It's loads easier to get to your home nation than it is to the past. After I got all the maws on day one I've not even been back this whole time, it's a pain to get around in past zones, they definitely need to make it more accessible.
EDIT: I can't spell chocobo...

[Max™]

It's still a piece that only the girls get which is different.

I would imagine you could put whatever skirted stuff on a boy with .dat's, but it's teh wr0ng.

Also: Where are the hands?

Make a smaller version of that Opalined up boy with my Grey moptop taru, and I'll use it as an Avatar though. :O

[sleekmotorwurkz]

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/fa...ding-Dress.jpg

(lol@google bringing up alla with the first pic I was after >.>)

I'd like to know where my matching Taru M set of this gear is, plz.

just because they cant physically equip it doesnt mean it doesnt fit. Example -

Dat swap the Taru opaline set onto any other Taru body... it will look the same on M and F
Dat swap Hume F opaline onto a Hume M body. It will come out as garbage because the dat isnt designed the same.

I dont have access to my home pc with modelviewer right now, but pick any body piece.
Select Taru M, check the dat number
Select Taru F, check the dat number... it will be the same

Select Hume M, check the dat number
Select Hume F, check the dat number... it will be different.



******EDIT - Max brought up the swimsuits... I dont remember, are the the same? If the swimsuits are different for taru M and F, then I have faith there "may" be different SCH and DNC af for the different taru gender. But I was under the impression ALL taru .dats were not gender specific. If i am wrong, i am wrong, but thats what I thought.

[Charismatic]

What you don't understand Max is, those aren't modified .dat files at all.
I don't have any .dat mods at all.


Those files aren't included for males of any other race by default.

[Max™]

Yeah, I understand that.

They could still put in two different .dats, one for the boy af, one for the girl af, even just the body/legs would accomplish the effect.

[evilpaul]

Interesting thing I noticed, there are similarities between Wedding Gear, Swimsuits, and a couple other outfits, for tarus at the least.

Still though, there isn't a M counterpart for the Opaline set, the sleeves are similar to the swimsuit, but the shoulders are unique, as are the skirt/fringes, the boots are just ledelsen reskins, the undies I'm not sure about, have to go peep up a taru girls skirt later I guess.

:O

Wut?!

Also, this update notes is pretty much what I've been expecting and sounds pretty hawt. So when's the update Monday?