Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

[Sanjiyan]

I did a quick test on haste (figuring 20% as opposed to 25% should be noticeable).
11 attack rounds using a stopwatch (10 effective delays). MNK/DRG + destroyers with up to 30% equipment haste.

30% haste: 44.0 seconds => 264 dly (expect 243 dly w/o haste cap)
25% haste: 43.9 seconds => 263 dly (expect 261)
22% haste: 46.1 seconds => 276 dly (expect 271)
20% haste: 47.2 seconds => 283 dly (expect 278)

Granted there's potential for lots of error here but so far to me seems like cap is still 25%.

[orson]

Rumor has it, haste cap on gear is now 20%. Needs verification though.

I really hope this isn't true, I mean S-E can't be that stupid right, RIGHT!? =(

ROFL

I pity optimistic people like this.

I thought the all caps "RIGHT!?" would have given away my sarcasm but I guess I was wrong.

Just joking around too man don't take it serious.

[Holsety]

If this has already been posted I apologize but Retaliation is a 3 minute recast and gives you -12% movement speed.

[Kaiseran]

Four hours DLing this shit....And its 64%. Its been saying 2hr30min for the past.....3 hours....

[Sanjiyan]

Just quickly tested retaliation for myself. Small sample.

33 hits (didn't count misses)
8 retailations

Works out to 24% so far, as opposed to 10% before.

[Mulligan]

so... is all the gear listed in the dat mine thread it? do the new lvl 68 sets have no body or legs? and if so wtf is with adding so much uselessness

[Builttolast]

Disappointed.

So very disappointed.

[Xrave]

Is it two stored charges total for all elements of Quick Draw or two stored charges for each elemental type?

[Mulligan]

Is it two stored charges total for all elements of Quick Draw or two stored charges for each elemental type?

total, its all the same ability

[xua]

According to all languages, the version update specifically indicates "weapon attack speed" as what is being capped, so casting magic to deduce possible caps is meaningless. Furthermore, the JP version makes it specific that it's the combination of magic, abilities and items that is being capped, not any one specifically, so any speculation that the equipment cap of 25% has been lowered is completely bogus. SV march + haste + whatever will probably just make your equipment irrelevant.

[Sanjiyan]

Just quickly tested retaliation for myself. Small sample.

33 hits (didn't count misses)
8 retailations

Works out to 24% so far, as opposed to 10% before.

Another set:
40 hits
12 retaliates (30%)

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Total 73 hits
20 retaliates (27%)



I'm fairly convinced it's closer to 25-30% as opposed to 10%. That's a pretty decent rate considering base counter for MNK is 15%.
Of course I wouldn't know if it's subject to accuracy checks like counter is.

[Ploid]

Can't wait to mess with sam 3 - 5 months from now.

[Arximiro]

Retaliation only counters atks where they hit you, not misses. I just tested it and its countering 50% or more of the hits. I'm being hard pressed to be atked and not counter. You also get tp back with the counters. This ability will be badass for war/sam. It don't negate any damage though so we're still gonna get out faces smashed in.


Edit: Counted up some info, out of 10 hits I countered 7 of them. crazy.. especially considering I am getting tp with those atks.

[aurik]

Just quickly tested retaliation for myself. Small sample.

33 hits (didn't count misses)
8 retailations

Works out to 24% so far, as opposed to 10% before.

Another set:
40 hits
12 retaliates (30%)

---------------------
Total 73 hits
20 retaliates (27%)



I'm fairly convinced it's closer to 25-30% as opposed to 10%. That's a pretty decent rate considering base counter for MNK is 15%.
Of course I wouldn't know if it's subject to accuracy checks like counter is.

Should be easy:
-witness a missed retaliation
OR
-enter brenner/ballista and have a PDodge thf attack you with a kraken, witness no retaliation while pdodge is up.

[Deuce]

Characters below level 20 are no longer able to mine for items in the following areas:
Newton Movalpolos/Mount Zhayolm/Halvung/Gusgen Mines/Ifrit's Cauldron

Fucking owned no more RMT in Mount Z thank you jesus!

[Kaylia]

If this has already been posted I apologize but Retaliation is a 3 minute recast and gives you -12% movement speed.

Berserk aggressor both work on 25/15 number, so it would make sense if it's the same for this one. 25% counter, 15% mov speed.

[edit]

can dance while casting. best thing ever. Bring nuking to a whole new level

[Sanjiyan]

I don't know if retaliation can miss, since like counter it probably doesn't happen when it misses. The chat log goes like this on a retaliation event:

The Lesser Colibri hits Sanjiyan for 50 points of damage.
Sanjiyan hits the Lesser Colibri for 150 points of damage.
The Lesser Colibri hits Sanjiyan for 45 points of damage.
Sanjiyan retaliates. The Lesser Colibri takes 100 points of damage.

Another good way is to put on a weapon where I have no skills in, and then try to do a quick tally again. However, I skilled up ALL of my WAR's weapons so I can't do that against an EP mob easily, and anything harder than an EP will kill my WAR quickly.

[RKenshin]

By far the best part of this update for me is changing all my Utsesumi macros.

Add in a /wait .1, and /dance 4

It's amazingly awesome.

[millionsknives]

New areas seem great, just been to Beadeaux and... music! im sure its music that wasnt in the files before so thats a nice surprise. No mutes or anything, but my sneak wouldnt stick further in o_O

[Arximiro]

Mine seems to be Procing a lot more then yours Sanj. It only procs when I get hit, not when they miss. I am also getting tp back with my counters. out of a series of 10 hits from an evil weapon I countered 7.