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  1. #81
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    Quote Originally Posted by Pyke
    I think retrace will warp you to the past version of the actual zone you are in. Just my guess.
    I think thatd be pretty cool. Id like it also if it were vice versa. You can time warp back and forth. :]

  2. #82
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyomu
    Also, I see Scholars have RR, raise I and II (WTF?), but what about Stoneskin, Blink, etc? I wouldn't have too much hope for Phalanx or Gravity, but the lack of defensive spells are what makes SCH hard for a BLM sub. Guess we'll have to see when it's up.
    I'm pretty sure they'll be available under Addendum: White. The notes at the end regarding the Reraises and the Raises are under known issues, which means they probably got the changes in on the other scrolls, but not these specific spells for whatever reason. Once .DAT mining is available, you can check the old scrolls and see what they have been changed to say.

  3. #83
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    Hahaha drk zerg nerf.
    BLM/SCH looks awesome for anything not needing Gravity...assuming it doesn't get it natively.
    Elemental Siphon...hopefully has a low recast.
    Any bets as to howmuch Retrace is sold for in Eldieme [S]?
    <3 this:
    Characters below level 20 are no longer able to mine for items in the following areas:
    Newton Movalpolos/Mount Zhayolm/Halvung/Gusgen Mines/Ifrit's Cauldron
    Klimaform the SCH spells means "Climate form." WTH does that do?
    This looks potentially very ghey
    The effect of attributes on Waltzes will now be calculated differently depending on whether dancer is set as the main job or as the support job.
    Looks pretty good so far. :D

  4. #84
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    Very good update. Some of the fixes and new content look like they will be quite nice. Also, some of the job adjustments seem pretty good, but seriously...

    Where the hell is Reflect? I am slightly furious here, all these new Job specific spells, and PLD still has nothing but mostly gimpy WHM spells...

    They had 4 months to tweak all this stuff, why did PLD/RDM/MNK get left out of the great job adjustment update?

  5. #85
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    Quote Originally Posted by Toth
    Let's wait till testing before QQing (like that won't happen)

    This update is incredible! Though I am surprised they didnt mention sch and dnc merits (They must be there). They also did not put the auto-translate text for a lot of the new stuff.

    edit:
    Where are the new Automaton WS? They aren't in the details, nor in the Auto-Translate section. Don't tell me SE forgot
    Read again please.

    Ah, my CTRL+F spelling phailed.

    Still, the Auto-Translate is missing and no matching of the BST buff for Automatons.

  6. #86
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    Hmm. The German Update Notes say that the Haste limit has been raised

    What do Japanese and French say?

  7. #87
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    Quote Originally Posted by Jones
    Where are the new Automaton WS? They aren't in the details, nor in the Auto-Translate section. Don't tell me SE forgot.

    I'm happy for the BST's changes, but where is PUP's Repair reduction, special Repair items?!?
    They are in the notes, just didn't name them, much like they didn't name BLU magic.

  8. #88
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    I'll be happy if the new SAM JA is less than 5 minutes. Although, that will probably make everyone bitch like no fucking tomorrow... WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY GOD DAMN FUCKING NIN JAs!?

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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    Quote Originally Posted by fuergrissa
    Can't check dat's untill they actually let you download the update correct?
    I dunno, this could be one of those Braveheart "Fireballs from his eyes... and bolts of lightning from his arse" type rumour, but a while back I heard something about Taj being able to grab the updates before they became available to the POL clients. Could be 100% wrong though...

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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonded
    Finding new Haste cap as soon as we can log in... if you cant find it in the .dat's I'll let you know what it is asap >.<
    my guess is DNC roll is the haste roll and SE put the haste cap up to prevent some hundredfists action or so

  11. #91
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    learn 2 read, make sure you completely read everything over be4 QQ. There is new blu magic, there is automaton ws. :ashira:

    edit: jesus i tried to get this in, in the middle of page 3

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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph
    They had 4 months to tweak all this stuff, why did PLD/RDM/MNK get left out of the great job adjustment update?
    Sentinel, Rampart and Auto-Refresh and you're still bitching?

  13. #93
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    No "frontline RDM" changes of note. Can't say I'm surprised. I find it interesting they tweaked the effect of weapon enhancing spells, though outside of RDM and DNC this will hardly be noticed.

    New BLU spells will occupy my time tonight I'm sure.

    Also, as I thought, this would be the update where the WotG zones got their NMs. Does Sandworm have loot now? Will there be any new HNMs? That's left to be seen.

    Attack speed nerf and SCH buff seem to be the epic low and epic high of this update.

    The data mining results will set my opinion on this update. For the moment, I give it a 7 out of 10.

  14. #94
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    Friggin' win for SCH. I guess I gotta stop calling myself a lolSCH30 and start leveling more than just on BST pets.

    And here's to hoping that this SMN ability is worthwhile.

  15. #95
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan
    Quote Originally Posted by evilbau
    Nice update.

    To the one saying the new band is meh.... its a lot better. 2k xp per charge and assuming the 'doubling up' rules apply the same to this band, you will be able to use 2 charges per day every other day, resulting in an average of 3k xp bonus per day... much better.
    Problem is, you can only recharge once a week. So you can only get 6k bonus per week instead of 7k (with empress).
    Hmmm i guess i never noticed this since I only recharge when I was 0/7 on empress, which meant I never exceeded more than one recharge a week. I assumed you could recharge whenever.

  16. #96
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    Quote Originally Posted by Update
    The new thief job ability “Collaborator” has been introduced:
    Collaborator
    Steals 25% of the target party member's enmity and redirects it to the thief.
    *This ability shares a recast time with “Accomplice,” a thief ability introduced in the previous version update.
    If this is a pre 37 ability I could see it in certain situations making /thf a viable tank option.


    *note* the update states new blu magic, but the table of added game terms fails to list them.

  17. #97
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    The new summoner job ability “Elemental Siphon” has been introduced:
    Elemental Siphon
    Drains MP from your summoned spirit.
    *Only effective on spirits summoned by the summoner.
    If you have to keep spirit out...lame. Hopfully you don't need your spirit out after you use JA sounds better.

  18. #98
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    Quote Originally Posted by Redshift
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph
    They had 4 months to tweak all this stuff, why did PLD/RDM/MNK get left out of the great job adjustment update?
    Sentinel, Rampart and Auto-Refresh and you're still bitching?
    As far as RDM and MNK, yes bitching is fucking justified. These jobs haven't been specifically touched in literally years yet SE doesn't hesitate to add another 8 inches to a SAM's cock every update.

  19. #99
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    Absorb-ACC at the possible cost of 2h-zerg nerf? I don't think that's a DRK buff, lol.

    Scholar definitely got a huge boost. Extra stratagem charge plus huge charge recast reduction. The corsair charge thing sounds nice, too. What's with that MP-store thing? Like a self MP-benediction while also killing yourself? Sounds interesting. Thinking the "extra white magic spells" will be blink, stoneskin, etc, which is awesome. I want to see what SCH/DNC AF is going to look like.

    I always love to see how they change random items' icons.

    And finally, I hope Tarutaru /dance's aren't lame.

  20. #100
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    Re: Mar. 11, 2008 (JST) Update Details

    Anyone gonna be mining? (Apologize in advance if this has been addressed, this thread is going fast)

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