Haste Cap

[Alisha]

out of curiosity does anyone know how much haste hundred fists gives? i'm mainly curious because sometimes i like to go use hundred fist on something with my kinkobo while skilling staff. i miss the days when hundred fists effected magic recast timers >_>

[Kirschy]

I tested Hundred Fists to be ~74% haste. I never did get around to testing if Hasso + Hundred Fists stacks, I can probably check to see if it works after the servers are back up.

[Geneyus]

The problem with Valacar's argument is that on Titan upgrading Mandau bars you from ever showing up to events on THF, and getting Apoc turns you into a permanent stun position whom never melees. At least they are no where as wasted as our Ridills though!

[RKenshin]

SMN/DRK with Ridill rocks, don't know what rock you live under.

[Geneyus]

I started this, counterstance revolution can stand aside.

[Titanss]

Mandau's omgosh feature is the WS itself. Allows you to do very high damage by double dipping into STR.

Another thing mandau has going for it is if your LS still uses thief to TA tanks, TA'ing mercy stroke is huuuuuuuuuge hate, especially if the thief isn't a shitbox. I haven't fought fafnir nor any king at all since getting it really, but for everything else I do, mandau surely speeds up kills, especially when I do darkness and it mirrors, practically 1 shotting things.

Mercy is still garbage for straight WS'ing without stacking JAs, DE/Evi beat it, but for SA/TA it's highly damaging.

Post accomplice it's great for trying to quickly distribute hate between 2 people if you're low manning things. Start fight with TP, TA+Mercy the other person, accomplice. Then you both have a significant amount of hate more than anyone in the group and people don't have to be so fragile about hate building at the start.

I just got deja vu.

[Zilong]

People really underestimate just how huge 3.00 fTP WS effect on a job that's build around 1 hit wonder critical damage.

[Tulun]

At least the mods aren't MND+CHR... or INT+AGI... >.>

[vagus]

God, finally posting my opnion on this. My drk is 66, and was not looking forward to getting RC setup. I have a ridill, and now it seems much better. I could go M.Kris too and put my dagger merits to good use. Heh.

Anyways, for all the people that have Apoc, i feel for you. I'm sure SE will do something to compensate. For all you others who built there entire game life around RC setup, you do not have my sympathy. For all the LS's that "zerged" there sky NMS with a RC Drk, Lol. Time to learn brd rotation and toss war/nin and mnk/war, which takes a bit more skill. :D

Rkenshin, love your post on page 3 or 4. A very good way of putting things into perspective.

[mallister]

if you HAD to have RC drks to zerg sky gods, it's time to find a new LS.

[Lordender]

lol @ people who bought an apoc just for zerg purposes and not for a fulltime weapon.

[ronin sparthos]

If its any consolation, the apoc looks asthetically pleasing.... so you have that to fall back on >.>

[justinsane63]

Didn't wanna make a new thread, and since this thread is primarily about DRKs I'll ask this here. With the recent addition of the Moliones's Ring, which if I'm not mistaken does not stack onto any of the other 2% enhancement pieces, what's the ideal bw/se zerg setup now? Keeping turban is a no-brainer, but would Homam Body + Molio be better than Gloom + Bloodbead? Seems very close, but I would think the only situation to second guess using Homam is when you're Kraken zerging due to the 3%(?) chance you'll have that triple attack reduce your attack round from 4.5 average to a 3 hit round, but on the flipside there's also a chance it'll cause a potential 1~2 hit round to hit 3x instead. For those w/o Bloodbead, wouldn't Homam or Crimson be solid choices over Gloom if you're using Molio's?

[Rai]

Set: Enhances "Souleater" effect

Set: Enhances "Souleater" effect

[Coolmints]

Does Haste samba counts as haste or weapon delay reduction? If it counts as weapon delay reduction, does it effectively increase the number of swing on top of the new haste cap?

[VZX]

It counts as haste

[Maxxthepenguin]

So...could it have possibly been SE nerfing this before it got crazier than it already was? You know, by adding DNC to the setup.

So maybe it WAS a preemptive nerf and they just took the opportunity to lower it to what they considered sane

[Quizno]

There is nothing to put into perspective.

This was a pointless nerf.

Mercurial Kris is way more walmart than a rune chopper with full haste gear.

Enjoy =)

[nivlac]

well i guess the only thing we darks can be proud of is.... we're the only job that can reach 80% haste.... or am i wrong on that one? xD

[Khrno]

There is nothing to put into perspective.

This was a pointless nerf.

Mercurial Kris is way more walmart than a rune chopper with full haste gear.

Enjoy =)

M.Kris is 3M+ while RC was never more than 100k probably on my server, so how is it going to be the Dagger "more walmart" than the GA? lol