Scholar Discussion #3 (post March patch)

[Bikpik]

Does your script keep AF1 head (and AF2 body if you have it) on when sub is running, and change to ixion when it's not? Just asking cause I couldn't get one to work without using the autoexec plugin.

[Apollyon]

Yes, my Spellcast file will do that.

[Marcicus]

Has anyone tried to enfeeble any HNMs now that SCH has access to Altruism? Mainly talking Cerb/Khim/Faffy etc

[Shin Volcano]

I dont think Altruism is worth the merits, 2 charges that only benift 2 spells is not really a bother, someone out there may have done it, but i personaly think it is a comeplte waste, for 2 charges at least, besides on HNM fights, there is ussualy always a rdm taking care of enfeebles to warrent needing a sch to do it. bascialy there enfeebling skill is just to low to land them reliably.

[Marcicus]

Well, I have 285 Enfeebling Magic at the moment (Scholar's Gown +1, Enfeebling Torque, and Argute Bracers). With max merits that would push it up to 301. You can go even higher than that; I'm not too sure what a RDM's enfeebling magic skill is on most things and yes it would be better to have said RDM toss a Paralyze or Slow on said HNM, but I was just curious if a SCH could do it too.

[Shin Volcano]

I'd say no, i have tried it many times even with storms and klimaform, (before group 2 update) still have alot of trouble sticking, most rdms do it with 320+ skill or so, which i doubt sch can get near without leaving alot of MND gear.

[Yugl]

Has anyone tried Noctohelix or any other Helix on Omega? What seems to work best and about how much DMG on average?

[Telamond]

After receiving news on the augmented body armour for Crystalline Prophecy...
What combination would you aim for?

At the moment, I'm uncertain if it would be beneficial to replace Scholar's Gown with anything else while nuking... so left is for light arts purposes which I switch Argute Gown idle while using Goliard Saio for casting...

I also have a BRD and WHM, which I use Jubbah for... I'm kind of lost at what I would pick. :X

Anyone put any further thought in this?

[The Blackrose]

Fast Cast/-Enmity for Light Arts, MAB/MACC for Dark Arts.

Scholar would sort of finally get it's equivalent to the Weskit. Little bit better than an NQ.

As for the Light Arts half, if I remember one of Kaeko's last posts correctly, FC2 + Light Arts + Argute Mortarboard + Scholar's Loafers put us at approximately 30% Cure cast speed? If this is true, FC 5% from the augments (and maybe Loquacious to help) should put us at the 35% tier. Hope Kaeko's lurking around to help confirm.

However, I still like my Goliard Saio over it...

[Telamond]

5% Fast Cast vs 5% Haste... what's the difference in the recast time reduction?

[jimbobsonofgod]

should be the same

Warlock chapeau and walmart turban offer the same recast timer. just not the same cast timer.

[Araelus]

5% Fast Cast vs 5% Haste... what's the difference in the recast time reduction?

If the augment uses the same mechanics as existing items, Fast Cast +5% will give you half the recast reduction of Haste +5%.

should be the same

Warlock chapeau and walmart turban offer the same recast timer. just not the same cast timer.

Fast Cast +X% is casting time -X and recast -X/2

Warlock Chapeau and Walmart have the same recast timer because Chapeau is Fast Cast +10%.

[shaddix]

If this is true, FC 5% from the augments (and maybe Loquacious to help) should put us at the 35% tier.

Only the animation is tiered, probably from some technical reason. The time between start of casting and hp recovery is not tiered.

Also do you know if haste and fastcast are applied to the recast like haste*fastcast*recast or is it haste+fastcast*recast?

[Ratatapa]

If you use spellcast yiu would use the fast cast for precast and midcast switch to goliard

but yeah once again depends when you need/do

[Vail]

Has anyone tried Noctohelix or any other Helix on Omega? What seems to work best and about how much DMG on average?

Noctohelix will resist to complete shit (just like using drain on omega does next to nothing)

My Cryohelix does around 100dmg vs Omega.

[The Blackrose]

Only the animation is tiered, probably from some technical reason. The time between start of casting and hp recovery is not tiered.

Also do you know if haste and fastcast are applied to the recast like haste*fastcast*recast or is it haste+fastcast*recast?

It would have to be additive. If it was multiplicative, it would be utter shit (and PLD would be up in arms since they have a bit of FC to go with their Haste for Utsu timers)

[Yugl]

Noctohelix will resist to complete shit (just like using drain on omega does next to nothing)

My Cryohelix does around 100dmg vs Omega.

Thanks for the response. I was wondering if I should stick with BLU/THF for Omega or change to SCH for DD, but it seems BLU/THF wins for DMG and Hate reasons.

Also, are the spell casting times on Wikipedia for the entire 100% cast or just until the spell is cast (Which seems to be ~80% or so)? I ask because I'm trying to find out how much /wait I should use for my spells so I can start blinking before/during the cast. Since the spells start at 80% and I have Dark Arts (-10%) and Fast Cast II (-15%), I should be casting at the 60% mark. If the times posted on Wikipedia are the 100% Mark then I need to account for the fact that they seem to start casting at 80%, but if the casting times posted are at the 80% mark, then I just need to account for Dark Arts + Fast Cast.

[Telamond]

Might be a follow-up to the question I asked earlier.
How would the Royal Redingote with m.acc +4 and m.atk +4 (in nuke mode) (for Dynamis and Einherjar mobs) compare to Ixion Cloak, Errant and Scholar's Gown +1? How much difference would it make?

I'm thinking of getting the COR body with m.atk +4 and -5 recast timer.

[Xanthe]

Might be a follow-up to the question I asked earlier.
How would the Royal Redingote with m.acc +4 and m.atk +4 (in nuke mode) (for Dynamis and Einherjar mobs) compare to Ixion Cloak, Errant and Scholar's Gown +1? How much difference would it make?

I'm thinking of getting the COR body with m.atk +4 and -5 recast timer.

Combined with AF1+1 head it should outdo Ixion Cloak for standard nukes, but the cloak will still be better for Helices.

[Telamond]

Combined with AF1+1 head it should outdo Ixion Cloak for standard nukes, but the cloak will still be better for Helices.

Would you suspect that the difference would be marginal or have noticable impact on the damage?