Do I dare ask about the Holocaust?

[Ryko]

Where's remyo when you need him.

[guartz]

My grandpa was guiding soviet siberian troops to counter attack the nezis when they blocked moscow. He told me that when he entered the city, everybody was very thin and he could not see a single stray cat or dog.

If moscow was that bad, image a few years later in poland?

you get the idea of how little food there was.

[Alleya]

More people died from starvation and disease then from bullets in Eastern Europe. Obviously, the prisoners suffered the worst of it. The idea that on hitler's personal orders all those people were lined up and shot/gassed is just as silly as saying that hitler had no intention of killing anybody.

Sorry, I forgot that people dying of other causes makes wholesale slaughter somehow less important.

But it wasn't just jews either. Socialists, gypsies, homosexuals, left-handed people(? lol), down-syndrome people, all of them suffered cruel prosecution under the Nazi Reich.

You don't see Americans donating billions to the gay survivors of ww2, do you?

Everyone knows it was more than just jews. I also don't see gay holocaust survivors being denied recognition because they're not Jewish.

The zionists leaders at that time and now are just masters at Public Relations. Why do you think Armenian holocaust is seldom if ever mentioned? Or any other holocaust? Anyway, I could go further into occupation of palestine but it's beyond the scope of this topic.

Don't try to obfuscate the issue at hand with politics. A nice attempt to draw attention away from the ridiculousness of your argument, though.

[Vistani]

My grandpa told me that Guartz just went off on some ridiculous tangent. Also that Guartz is stupid.

[Plow]

Wow dude, just wow.

First off, when you start a post off with this:

Was the Holocaust real?

You're lucky to get anything but an omg gtfo, seriously.


http://www.ushmm.org/


Go there, and seriously stfu.

Have you guys ever seen the video of Buzz Aldrin punching a guy in the face for calling him a liar for saying he walked on the moon? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQKxAqpjroo

They need to have one of a Holocaust survivor doing the same thing. That would be awesome...

I'd do it for them if someone said this shit face to face with me, and I'm not the up and punch somebody type at all.

[Vistani]

The bombing of Hiroshima never happened, prove me wrong.

[guartz]

Sorry, I forgot that people dying of other causes makes wholesale slaughter somehow less important.

It's not! and I may have not been to clear on that point. What i'm saying is, that factually it's impossible that 6mil jews were killed on hitler's orders. But they were killed nonetheless, if somehow indirect murder absolves the wrong-doer, I don't think it does.

However, it does show that there is "some" truth in that posted article "Is holocaust real". Perverted truth, yes.

[Plow]

Sorry, I forgot that people dying of other causes makes wholesale slaughter somehow less important.

It's not! and I may have not been to clear on that point. What i'm saying is, that factually it's impossible that 6mil jews were killed on hitler's orders. But they were killed nonetheless, if somehow indirect murder absolves the wrong-doer, I don't think it does.

However, it does show that there is "some" truth in that posted article "Is holocaust real". Perverted truth, yes.

No. No, no, no.

This is like saying no Iraqi or Americans were killed under Bush's order, except way, way, way more extreme.


Hitler tried to take over the fucking world by killing anyone and everyone that wasn't exactly what he wanted them to be. (including himself eventually so don't even try that "but hitler wasn't even!" shit) Each and every death by a member of or at the hands of the SS and the axis forces is *directly* attributable to this dude and his organization trying to take over the world.

And this is true even if you don't believe the massive prison compounds with huge gas chambers and multitudes of people-cooking ovens and mass quantities of corpses were actually meant for killing large amounts of people.

[Charla]

I really think Firas is too smart to seriously be ignoring the actual replies in this thread, so I'm just going to say
successful troll is successful.

[Beckwin]

GUARTZ YOU MOTHERFUCKER CUT THIS SHIT OUT HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT NEED TO BE SAID IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RELIABLE SOURCES YOU'RE JUST BEING A CONSPIRACY THEORY DOUCHEBAG

[Plow]

I just have to say one more thing here, to Firas.


What you did with this thread is *EXACTLY* the problem you exhibit throughout your posts.


Millions and millions of people died in WW2 and the Holocaust. Stop, for a moment, and let that sink in. That's not just losing a friend, or family member. That's not just losing *all* of your friends and family members. That's millions and millions of people, losing absolutely everything they've ever known.

Every person they've ever walked past and smiled, every building they've ever been inside, every park bench they've ever sat on and eaten lunch, every place they've ever done anything, and everyone they've ever encountered, just plain gone.


This is not something you can take so lightly as to just see something claiming a bunch of random things about it and blurt out "Did the holocaust really happen?" as though it were "did that piece of wood REALLY have an image of the virgin Mary?!!?!"


You've really got to stop, and consider what you're about to say when you want to discuss such serious issues. Look at the other side, and think about how you would feel if they said something similar to you. How would you feel if someone came up and said something along the lines of "Jews have never caused any kind of harm to Muslims, it's all just propaganda used to justify irrational terrorism by the Muslims."


I don't think you'd have much respect left for someone willing to just blurt out some ridiculous shit like that.

[Creeps]

GUARTZ YOU MOTHERFUCKER CUT THIS SHIT OUT HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT NEED TO BE SAID IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RELIABLE SOURCES YOU'RE JUST BEING A CONSPIRACY THEORY DOUCHEBAG

but guys, I found a geocities webpage that says the holocaust was fake, 9/11 was planned by George Bush and that 2 + 2 = 3, so it must be true

[Shuemue]

Can we make a 'special' forum and lock Firas, guartz and sunbl1nd in there?

[Plow]

Can we make a 'special' forum and lock Firas, guartz and sunbl1nd in there?

I dunno man on the one hand some of the threads are worth reading, on the other hand yeah at some point it's pretty wtf.

[Charla]

Back in the day the uberest uber guild from EQ had a special forum on their boards named the retard rickshaw (for when the short bus is too big) where they moved all the threads that turned into flamewars. It got plenty of traffic.

[Plow]

Back in the day the uberest uber guild from EQ had a special forum on their boards named the retard rickshaw (for when the short bus is too big) where they moved all the threads that turned into flamewars. It got plenty of traffic.

There's a couple of very Guartz/Firas threads on the front page of RR right now lol.

[Charla]

Oh hey, I didn't realize FoH still exists. Anyone think this would be a good idea? http://www.fohguild.org/forums/retard-rickshaw/

[Plow]

Oh hey, I didn't realize FoH still exists. Anyone think this would be a good idea? http://www.fohguild.org/forums/retard-rickshaw/

They have to keep a low profile in WoW cuz of the whole having developers from their guild thing heh, so they basically wait until everything's been done then clear it all super fast. Keeps them fairly low profile, which if you've read the things some of the devs have said on there is probably a priority heh, along with not being accused of using developer's special knowledge.

[Jefe]

Lol, Firas is just hittin' and runnin'. I kinda wanna do that from now on, make a thread/reply and never go back to it again

[Remyo]

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