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    Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    I've been debating a few upgrades on DRG for some time so...I determined the best course of action would be to post my current TP/WS setup & my desired TP/WS setup and see if i'm heading in the right direction. Any Changes under the desired section are in bold, since I want to avoid a wall-of-text situation. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated, I'm semi-(read really)-broke at the moment since I just got my Thalassocrat made which means I'll have to smoke some of the beastmen's seals I've been stashing for a rainy day. Thanks ahead of time! (Unless you leave mean comments, Q_Q)

    Current TP Setup:

    Main: Thalassocrat
    Sub: Mythril Grip +1
    Range:
    Ammo: Angon / Fenrir's Stone
    Head: Homam Zucchetto
    Neck: Love Torque
    L.Ear: Brutal Earring
    R.Ear: Ethereal Earring
    Body: Pahluwan Khazagand
    Hands: Pahluwan Dastanas
    L.Ring: Jaeger Ring
    R.Ring: Ruby Ring
    Back: Amemet Mantle +1
    Waist: Wyrm Belt
    Legs: Pahluwan Seraweels
    Feet: Homam Gambieras

    Current WS Setup:

    Main: Thalassocrat
    Sub: Mythril Grip +1
    Range:
    Ammo: Angon / Fenrir's Stone
    Head: Wyrm Armet +1
    Neck: Love Torque
    L.Ear: Brutal Earring
    R.Ear: Ethereal Earring
    Body: Assault Jerkin
    Hands: Pahluwan Dastanas
    L.Ring: Jaeger Ring
    R.Ring: Ruby Ring
    Back: Amemet Mantle +1
    Waist: Warwolf Belt
    Legs: Pahluwan Seraweels
    Feet: Homam Gambieras

    Desired TP Setup:

    Main: Thalassocrat
    Sub: Claymore Grip / Pole Strap
    Range:
    Ammo: Angon / Fenrir's Stone
    Head: Homam Zuchetto
    Neck: Love Torque
    L.Ear: Brutal Earring
    R.Ear: Ethereal Earring
    Body: Pahluwan Khazagand
    Hands: Tarasque Mitts +1 / Dusk Gloves
    L.Ring: Jaeger Ring
    R.Ring: Flame Ring / Triumph Ring
    Back: Amemet Mantle +1
    Waist: Swift Belt
    Legs: Homam Cosciales
    Feet: Homam Gambieras

    Desired WS Setup:

    Main: Thalassocrat
    Sub: Claymore Grip / Pole Strap
    Range:
    Ammo: Angon / Fenrir's Stone
    Head: Wyrm Armet +1
    Neck: Love Torque
    L.Ear: Brutal Earring
    R.Ear: Ethereal Earring
    Body: Hecatomb Harness
    Hands: Alkyoneus's Bracelets
    L.Ring: Jaeger Ring
    R.Ring: Flame Ring / Triumph Ring
    Back: Amemet Mantle +1
    Waist: Warwolf Belt
    Legs: Pahluwan Seraweels
    Feet: Homam Gambieras

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    Not a drg so can't help out on much, but this
    Ammo: Smart Grenade

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    And...Smart Grenade is Windurst? I'll have to switch nations but i can do that. ^o^

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    Ace's Helm beats out Homam Zucchetto, at least i think so.
    I use Homam Corazza for TP, Barone Corazza for Jumps, and Heca Harness for WS.
    Raja's Ring, but it looks like you're a mage main, so that might not be an option.
    Drn. Fng. Gauntlets +1 are a great piece if Anks are out of your price range.
    Personally i love Homam Cosciales, but Drachen Brias+1 are great for ACC, and some DRGs i know staple Ares Legs to themselves.

    My TP build looks like:
    Thalassocrat
    Pole Strap
    Olibanum Sachet / Angon
    Ace's Helm
    Love Torque
    Ethereal or Cassie / Brutal
    Homam Corazza
    Homam Manopolas
    Raja's Ring
    Ulthalam's Ring
    Cerb Mantle
    Swordbelt +1
    Homam Cosciales
    Homam Gambieras

    I rarely ever play DRG/melee though and it's even more rare that i xp/merit/event as DRG/melee.

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Kkel
    Ace's Helm beats out Homam Zucchetto, at least i think so.
    I use Homam Corazza for TP, Barone Corazza for Jumps, and Heca Harness for WS.
    Raja's Ring, but it looks like you're a mage main, so that might not be an option.
    Drn. Fng. Gauntlets +1 are a great piece if Anks are out of your price range.
    Personally i love Homam Cosciales, but Drachen Brias+1 are great for ACC, and some DRGs i know staple Ares Legs to themselves.
    I do have a set of AF upgrade items from Limbus and was debating between pants & hands for WS. I could save up and purchase some Alkys, so if you think the Brais would be good I'll probably do those. I like DRG/BLU a lot too, and I noticed the additional 5% Wyvern HP too. What would you say for Grip ? DA or Crits?

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    If you DRG/melee a lot you can't really go wrong with Gloves or Pants, either are great. If you play DRG/mage a lot i'd say either Helm or Pants first, then Gloves.

    I definitely prefer the Pole Strap. Combined with the Homam Corazza and the Brutal Earring it keeps the multi-attack flowing nicely.

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    This is a budget build? In that case:

    Main: Thalassocrat
    Sub: Pole Strap
    Range:
    Ammo: Angon / Fenrir's Stone
    Head: Turban
    Neck: Love Torque
    L.Ear: Brutal Earring
    R.Ear: Ethereal Earring
    Body: Assault Jerkin
    Hands: Pahluwan Dastanas
    L.Ring: Woodsman/Sniper's
    R.Ring: Woodsman/Sniper's/Rajas?
    Back: Amemet Mantle +1
    Waist: Swift Belt
    Legs: Drachen Brais +1 / Homam Cosciales
    Feet: Homam Gambieras
    I changed the body piece to an attack piece because, with AJ and Homam pants, you have +45 ACC and +7 skill, which should be enough to use meat for anything that's not an HNM (and you'll probably use a mage job for that anyway). Stick with Pahluwan if AJ is too hard to obtain, or you don't like your accuracy without it. Dunno if you have polearm merits, so your mileage may vary. Macro in AF feet and Barone pants and/or body for jumps.

    AF+1 pants are worth getting for solo, if you do that. The extra 5% is amazing.

    Oh, and I forgot: if you can get a Homam body, I'd totally wear that.

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    I wouldn't say i'm exactly on a budget, it's more/less i'm broke at the moment from a recent purchase but given some time I can craft & farm a bit to make money towards better gear. I do have Assault Jerkin at the moment, and I'm working on completing some more Homam Pieces. As for Polearm it's 8/8 at the moment and I do have Barone Pants/AF Boots for Jumps but no Barone Body. And you've sealed my decision on doing the AF pants first ^o^

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    Most of the good gear choices have been covered already, but most suggesting enky/pallas hands probably overlooked the WS modifyers on Penta Thrust (20% STR 20% DEX). I would avoid using those in favor of something that ups both mods such as Hecatomb Mittens or af1+1 hands. With that point in mind, Wyrm Brais also become an option for leg slot during your weaponskill build.

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    Turban >>>>>> Homam

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaborn
    Most of the good gear choices have been covered already, but most suggesting enky/pallas hands probably overlooked the WS modifyers on Penta Thrust (20% STR 20% DEX). I would avoid using those in favor of something that ups both mods such as Hecatomb Mittens or af1+1 hands. With that point in mind, Wyrm Brais also become an option for leg slot during your weaponskill build.
    I was actually wondering if Wyrm brais would be better for Penta then Pln.Seraweels, since they have DEX+5 over Pln.Seraweels STR+3 Acc+4. I have Pln.Crackows too, DEX+4 Acc+3 and was wondering if the DEX+4 warrants them over Homam Feet on Penta, to balance the DEX & STR, although I find it hard to rule out Homam Feet w/the 6 Acc.

    Concerning Alkys, since Wheeling is primarily str determinate I should stay away from -dex for penta, is what your getting at yea? Hmm, I could get Heca. Hands eventually, in the mean time would Attack+12 from Tarasque be better then Alkys with their dexterity -?

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    Go for an Askar Body if you can. It's far better than Homam Body will ever be, and best of all, it's FREE. With the amount of Acc/Merits you have on your current/desired setup, you will not miss the 15 accuracy and lolTripleAttack on Homam.

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    On topic, Smart Grenade is Windurst yes? I've switched to San d'Oria recently to purchase Iron Ram Lance, so i'll have to double check the rank for the Greande before I switch & drop two ranks. Iron Emblem $$ at the moment so I assume it shouldn't be an issue. Askar Korazin is Att+12 Eva+12 STR+5 DA+2% correct? Nyzul oh we meet again D:

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    Don't forget the Store TP+5

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    Yeah I forgot about Askar, I do Salvage so I'm unable to do Nyzul. That's probably the best body piece for DRG (except maybe Ares?), just that Homam is more accessible to me so it was the first place that I went to

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Kkel
    Ace's Helm beats out Homam Zucchetto, at least i think so.
    It does. I use Assault Earring over Etheral Earring when I'm subbing anything outside of a mage job. Thanks to the advice you gave me a few months back I've gotten a lot better as a support drg.

    Anyone else should listen to Kkel when he mentions a good build for drg. He knows what he's talking about.

    Edit:

    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    Turban >>>>>> Homam
    Screw that fucking ugly ass thing. Not saying Homam head or Ace's look anything better but being elvaan I'm willing to sac 2% haste for more accuracy.

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    First suggestion, sell your Thalassocrat back if you still have your Mezraq and use the gil to get much more important upgrades. Get whichever is cheaper, they are the same. The rest of my suggestions are in bold.

    Quote Originally Posted by Octavious

    Desired TP Setup:

    Main: Thalassocrat
    Sub: Pole Strap
    Range:
    Ammo: Tiphia Sting or Smart Grenade depending on Accuracy
    Head: W. Turban, Ace's Helm, Askar Zochetto
    Neck: Love Torque
    L.Ear: Brutal Earring
    R.Ear: Assault Earring
    Body: Assault Jerkin, Askar Corazza, Ares's Cuirass, Homam Corazza
    Hands: Dusk Gloves
    Optimal for DRG are Ulthalam's Ring and Rajas but if you can't get those for job related reasons then your choices are ok I guess.
    L.Ring: Jaeger Ring
    R.Ring: Flame Ring / Triumph Ring
    Back: Amemet Mantle +1
    Waist: Swift Belt
    Legs: Homam Cosciales
    Feet: Homam Gambieras

    Desired WS Setup:

    Main: Thalassocrat
    Sub: Pole Strap
    Range:
    Ammo: Angon / Fenrir's Stone
    Head: Wyrm Armet +1
    Neck: Love Torque
    L.Ear: Brutal Earring
    R.Ear: Assault Earring or something with STR or DEX like Minuet Earring
    Body: Hecatomb Harness
    Hands: Definitely don't want to use Alky Bracelets as they basically cut in half the WS modifiers you gain from the STR on Penta Thrust, instead use Hecatomb or AF +1
    L.Ring: Flame Ring
    R.Ring: Flame Ring
    Back: Amemet Mantle +1
    Waist: Warwolf Belt
    Legs: Pahluwan Seraweels
    Feet: Homam Gambieras
    I hope that helps. You need to look for more Haste and less Accuracy in TP build and more STR and WS mods in WS gear.

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    smart bomb is quested from in bastok(present)
    and also I would consider fowling earring if you can't get assualt for non /mage stuff.
    rest of stuff been covered.

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    Oh, and I spent equal/less on Thalassocrat (possibly 20-40k less then mezraq at the current price) having mined some Khroma Ore to fund ingredients. Although I did shudder on the synthesis, I hate 100~ synths...so random with T0 luck.

    @ Wolfknight, Fowling over Ethereal? I wasn't sure about STR+1 Acc+3 vs. Attack+5. Although i had been debating it because my friend is a DRG Elvaan and swore by Fowling till he bought Triumphs. I'm open to try Fowling out, it's pretty cheap.

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    Re: Hmm, DRG Gear Question

    Keep this on topic, appropriate PMs have been sent. Thank you.

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