Hmm, DRG Gear Question

[Octavious]

I've been debating a few upgrades on DRG for some time so...I determined the best course of action would be to post my current TP/WS setup & my desired TP/WS setup and see if i'm heading in the right direction. Any Changes under the desired section are in bold, since I want to avoid a wall-of-text situation. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated, I'm semi-(read really)-broke at the moment since I just got my Thalassocrat made which means I'll have to smoke some of the beastmen's seals I've been stashing for a rainy day. Thanks ahead of time! (Unless you leave mean comments, Q_Q)

Current TP Setup:

Main: Thalassocrat
Sub: Mythril Grip +1
Range:
Ammo: Angon / Fenrir's Stone
Head: Homam Zucchetto
Neck: Love Torque
L.Ear: Brutal Earring
R.Ear: Ethereal Earring
Body: Pahluwan Khazagand
Hands: Pahluwan Dastanas
L.Ring: Jaeger Ring
R.Ring: Ruby Ring
Back: Amemet Mantle +1
Waist: Wyrm Belt
Legs: Pahluwan Seraweels
Feet: Homam Gambieras

Current WS Setup:

Main: Thalassocrat
Sub: Mythril Grip +1
Range:
Ammo: Angon / Fenrir's Stone
Head: Wyrm Armet +1
Neck: Love Torque
L.Ear: Brutal Earring
R.Ear: Ethereal Earring
Body: Assault Jerkin
Hands: Pahluwan Dastanas
L.Ring: Jaeger Ring
R.Ring: Ruby Ring
Back: Amemet Mantle +1
Waist: Warwolf Belt
Legs: Pahluwan Seraweels
Feet: Homam Gambieras

Desired TP Setup:

Main: Thalassocrat
Sub: Claymore Grip / Pole Strap
Range:
Ammo: Angon / Fenrir's Stone
Head: Homam Zuchetto
Neck: Love Torque
L.Ear: Brutal Earring
R.Ear: Ethereal Earring
Body: Pahluwan Khazagand
Hands: Tarasque Mitts +1 / Dusk Gloves
L.Ring: Jaeger Ring
R.Ring: Flame Ring / Triumph Ring
Back: Amemet Mantle +1
Waist: Swift Belt
Legs: Homam Cosciales
Feet: Homam Gambieras

Desired WS Setup:

Main: Thalassocrat
Sub: Claymore Grip / Pole Strap
Range:
Ammo: Angon / Fenrir's Stone
Head: Wyrm Armet +1
Neck: Love Torque
L.Ear: Brutal Earring
R.Ear: Ethereal Earring
Body: Hecatomb Harness
Hands: Alkyoneus's Bracelets
L.Ring: Jaeger Ring
R.Ring: Flame Ring / Triumph Ring
Back: Amemet Mantle +1
Waist: Warwolf Belt
Legs: Pahluwan Seraweels
Feet: Homam Gambieras

[Cream Soda]

Not a drg so can't help out on much, but this
Ammo: Smart Grenade

[Octavious]

And...Smart Grenade is Windurst? I'll have to switch nations but i can do that. ^o^

[Kkel]

Ace's Helm beats out Homam Zucchetto, at least i think so.
I use Homam Corazza for TP, Barone Corazza for Jumps, and Heca Harness for WS.
Raja's Ring, but it looks like you're a mage main, so that might not be an option.
Drn. Fng. Gauntlets +1 are a great piece if Anks are out of your price range.
Personally i love Homam Cosciales, but Drachen Brias+1 are great for ACC, and some DRGs i know staple Ares Legs to themselves.

My TP build looks like:
Thalassocrat
Pole Strap
Olibanum Sachet / Angon
Ace's Helm
Love Torque
Ethereal or Cassie / Brutal
Homam Corazza
Homam Manopolas
Raja's Ring
Ulthalam's Ring
Cerb Mantle
Swordbelt +1
Homam Cosciales
Homam Gambieras

I rarely ever play DRG/melee though and it's even more rare that i xp/merit/event as DRG/melee.

[Octavious]

Ace's Helm beats out Homam Zucchetto, at least i think so.
I use Homam Corazza for TP, Barone Corazza for Jumps, and Heca Harness for WS.
Raja's Ring, but it looks like you're a mage main, so that might not be an option.
Drn. Fng. Gauntlets +1 are a great piece if Anks are out of your price range.
Personally i love Homam Cosciales, but Drachen Brias+1 are great for ACC, and some DRGs i know staple Ares Legs to themselves.

I do have a set of AF upgrade items from Limbus and was debating between pants & hands for WS. I could save up and purchase some Alkys, so if you think the Brais would be good I'll probably do those. I like DRG/BLU a lot too, and I noticed the additional 5% Wyvern HP too. What would you say for Grip ? DA or Crits?

[Kkel]

If you DRG/melee a lot you can't really go wrong with Gloves or Pants, either are great. If you play DRG/mage a lot i'd say either Helm or Pants first, then Gloves.

I definitely prefer the Pole Strap. Combined with the Homam Corazza and the Brutal Earring it keeps the multi-attack flowing nicely.

[Conrad]

This is a budget build? In that case:

Main: Thalassocrat
Sub: Pole Strap
Range:
Ammo: Angon / Fenrir's Stone
Head: Turban
Neck: Love Torque
L.Ear: Brutal Earring
R.Ear: Ethereal Earring
Body: Assault Jerkin
Hands: Pahluwan Dastanas
L.Ring: Woodsman/Sniper's
R.Ring: Woodsman/Sniper's/Rajas?
Back: Amemet Mantle +1
Waist: Swift Belt
Legs: Drachen Brais +1 / Homam Cosciales
Feet: Homam Gambieras

I changed the body piece to an attack piece because, with AJ and Homam pants, you have +45 ACC and +7 skill, which should be enough to use meat for anything that's not an HNM (and you'll probably use a mage job for that anyway). Stick with Pahluwan if AJ is too hard to obtain, or you don't like your accuracy without it. Dunno if you have polearm merits, so your mileage may vary. Macro in AF feet and Barone pants and/or body for jumps.

AF+1 pants are worth getting for solo, if you do that. The extra 5% is amazing.

Oh, and I forgot: if you can get a Homam body, I'd totally wear that.

[Octavious]

I wouldn't say i'm exactly on a budget, it's more/less i'm broke at the moment from a recent purchase but given some time I can craft & farm a bit to make money towards better gear. I do have Assault Jerkin at the moment, and I'm working on completing some more Homam Pieces. As for Polearm it's 8/8 at the moment and I do have Barone Pants/AF Boots for Jumps but no Barone Body. And you've sealed my decision on doing the AF pants first ^o^

[Gaborn]

Most of the good gear choices have been covered already, but most suggesting enky/pallas hands probably overlooked the WS modifyers on Penta Thrust (20% STR 20% DEX). I would avoid using those in favor of something that ups both mods such as Hecatomb Mittens or af1+1 hands. With that point in mind, Wyrm Brais also become an option for leg slot during your weaponskill build.

[Starr]

Turban >>>>>> Homam

[Octavious]

Most of the good gear choices have been covered already, but most suggesting enky/pallas hands probably overlooked the WS modifyers on Penta Thrust (20% STR 20% DEX). I would avoid using those in favor of something that ups both mods such as Hecatomb Mittens or af1+1 hands. With that point in mind, Wyrm Brais also become an option for leg slot during your weaponskill build.

I was actually wondering if Wyrm brais would be better for Penta then Pln.Seraweels, since they have DEX+5 over Pln.Seraweels STR+3 Acc+4. I have Pln.Crackows too, DEX+4 Acc+3 and was wondering if the DEX+4 warrants them over Homam Feet on Penta, to balance the DEX & STR, although I find it hard to rule out Homam Feet w/the 6 Acc.

Concerning Alkys, since Wheeling is primarily str determinate I should stay away from -dex for penta, is what your getting at yea? Hmm, I could get Heca. Hands eventually, in the mean time would Attack+12 from Tarasque be better then Alkys with their dexterity -?

[Jaybar]

Go for an Askar Body if you can. It's far better than Homam Body will ever be, and best of all, it's FREE. With the amount of Acc/Merits you have on your current/desired setup, you will not miss the 15 accuracy and lolTripleAttack on Homam.

[Octavious]

On topic, Smart Grenade is Windurst yes? I've switched to San d'Oria recently to purchase Iron Ram Lance, so i'll have to double check the rank for the Greande before I switch & drop two ranks. Iron Emblem $$ at the moment so I assume it shouldn't be an issue. Askar Korazin is Att+12 Eva+12 STR+5 DA+2% correct? Nyzul oh we meet again D:

[Jaybar]

Don't forget the Store TP+5

[Conrad]

Yeah I forgot about Askar, I do Salvage so I'm unable to do Nyzul. That's probably the best body piece for DRG (except maybe Ares?), just that Homam is more accessible to me so it was the first place that I went to

[S N K]

Ace's Helm beats out Homam Zucchetto, at least i think so.

It does. I use Assault Earring over Etheral Earring when I'm subbing anything outside of a mage job. Thanks to the advice you gave me a few months back I've gotten a lot better as a support drg.

Anyone else should listen to Kkel when he mentions a good build for drg. He knows what he's talking about.

Edit:

Turban >>>>>> Homam

Screw that fucking ugly ass thing. Not saying Homam head or Ace's look anything better but being elvaan I'm willing to sac 2% haste for more accuracy.

[ringthree]

First suggestion, sell your Thalassocrat back if you still have your Mezraq and use the gil to get much more important upgrades. Get whichever is cheaper, they are the same. The rest of my suggestions are in bold.

Desired TP Setup:

Main: Thalassocrat
Sub: Pole Strap
Range:
Ammo: Tiphia Sting or Smart Grenade depending on Accuracy
Head: W. Turban, Ace's Helm, Askar Zochetto
Neck: Love Torque
L.Ear: Brutal Earring
R.Ear: Assault Earring
Body: Assault Jerkin, Askar Corazza, Ares's Cuirass, Homam Corazza
Hands: Dusk Gloves
Optimal for DRG are Ulthalam's Ring and Rajas but if you can't get those for job related reasons then your choices are ok I guess.
L.Ring: Jaeger Ring
R.Ring: Flame Ring / Triumph Ring
Back: Amemet Mantle +1
Waist: Swift Belt
Legs: Homam Cosciales
Feet: Homam Gambieras

Desired WS Setup:

Main: Thalassocrat
Sub: Pole Strap
Range:
Ammo: Angon / Fenrir's Stone
Head: Wyrm Armet +1
Neck: Love Torque
L.Ear: Brutal Earring
R.Ear: Assault Earring or something with STR or DEX like Minuet Earring
Body: Hecatomb Harness
Hands: Definitely don't want to use Alky Bracelets as they basically cut in half the WS modifiers you gain from the STR on Penta Thrust, instead use Hecatomb or AF +1
L.Ring: Flame Ring
R.Ring: Flame Ring
Back: Amemet Mantle +1
Waist: Warwolf Belt
Legs: Pahluwan Seraweels
Feet: Homam Gambieras

I hope that helps. You need to look for more Haste and less Accuracy in TP build and more STR and WS mods in WS gear.

[Wolfknight]

smart bomb is quested from in bastok(present)
and also I would consider fowling earring if you can't get assualt for non /mage stuff.
rest of stuff been covered.

[Octavious]

Oh, and I spent equal/less on Thalassocrat (possibly 20-40k less then mezraq at the current price) having mined some Khroma Ore to fund ingredients. Although I did shudder on the synthesis, I hate 100~ synths...so random with T0 luck.

@ Wolfknight, Fowling over Ethereal? I wasn't sure about STR+1 Acc+3 vs. Attack+5. Although i had been debating it because my friend is a DRG Elvaan and swore by Fowling till he bought Triumphs. I'm open to try Fowling out, it's pretty cheap.

[isladar]

Keep this on topic, appropriate PMs have been sent. Thank you.