Turning school into prison one day at a time...

[BerenTebogo]

Amazingly enough, my school district in Liberty Hill has some pretty tough dress code for central Texas. My buddy was suspended for wearing this t-shirt to school. The caption is "its all fun and games till someone loses a weiner."

My sophomore year, we finally won the right to wear open toed shoes / flip flops. Any pants/shorts with holes larger than the size of a dime can result in a referral(Read: Any designer clothing with pre-sewn holes), and shirts cannot have holes/cut off sleeves/ or show the midriff at all. No cut off shorts or any pants with fringes are allowed, and shorts must come down to arms length when holding your arms flat against your sides.

Hair for men cannot overlap the ear, nor can it cover the eyes or touch the collar of an oxford dress shirt, no facial hair as well. The best one in the book though "Coordinating colors cannot be worn for consecutive days, and constitutes a suspension." (Read: You cant wear all black for two days + in a row.) Men are not allowed any piercings and women can only have ears pierced. Any shown piercings must be put up, and if seen twice in one day, can constitute a referral or a suspension.

And that's just part of it.

is that a private school i hope? thats pretty fuckin crazy

CONSERVATIVE PUBLIC SCHOOL FTW!!! Also, talking to my buddy in the navy right now, we're within the navy standard hair code.

Honestly? I'd just tell them to fuck off, I up and walked out the front door of my high school on numerous occasions while being reprimanded, if somebody, back when I was in high school, had made an attempt to restrain me physically while I was in any situation other than one where I could cause harm to another person I made it clear I would've made hell for them.

If I had been in the situation regarding your school I would just take the suspension if I forgot or something, that's ridiculous and should not be put up with. Applying to college? "Says here you were suspended, would you like to tell your side of the story? I wore a black T-shirt 2 days in a row, sorry." Wouldn't really worry me.

Edit: I feel I should add though I am also for school uniforms, despite having 9 inch liberty spikes hair style in high school. I think it makes everything much easier.

Just turning public school into the military (as is this case) is ri-fucking-diculous

[Korietsu]

Honestly? I'd just tell them to fuck off, I up and walked out the front door of my high school on numerous occasions while being reprimanded, if somebody, back when I was in high school, had made an attempt to restrain me physically while I was in any situation other than one where I could cause harm to another person I made it clear I would've made hell for them.

If I had been in the situation regarding your school I would just take the suspension if I forgot or something, that's ridiculous and should not be put up with. Applying to college? "Says here you were suspended, would you like to tell your side of the story? I wore a black T-shirt 2 days in a row, sorry." Wouldn't really worry me.

However, I am a college student. But by our state truancy law, even though the student in question may be 18, they can call the police and arrest you for truancy, and I wouldn't put it past them for it in the least. In fact, one of my former class mates, and a good friend was not allowed to enter the school campus the first day of school because his hair was out of code.

Quite amusing to me, because he just walked right back out of the door, and came back with it cut the next day, but kept the school board tied with 6 months of litigation :D. As part of our circuit court, number 2 or 5 if I remember correctly, students at public schools have no rights regarding dress, and are subject to the schools dress code decision. ACLU tried to break it, but the judge kept the ruling.

I just find it funny that everyone is complaining about pants sagging law as "free speech" where I had no rights for my dress code at my school, and could have easily been thrown out for both my hair and some of my pants because the bottoms were frayed from wear. However, helps being loved by my teachers. I don't agree with any of the policy put in place except for simple things like trashy clothing or walking around with completely retarded slogans. Amazingly enough our school district had a total of 5 black students, and the majority (70%) were white, rest were Hispanic.

Overall I felt it was good for those who had short attention spans in class (read: 80% of the people at my school lol) other than the hair code, since it affected mostly honor students and myself. However, they aren't relaxing the code, and in fact, are making it more enforceable and overbearing. My class was pretty much the one that brought what little changes to the school dress code. We brought on the open toed shoe change, as well as got a change on the frayed clothing which went into effect this year I believe, which allowed shorts with a cut off look, that had a hem to be worn. However, the school board won't ever forget the litigation that my buddy put them through.

[BerenTebogo]

Honestly? I'd just tell them to fuck off, I up and walked out the front door of my high school on numerous occasions while being reprimanded, if somebody, back when I was in high school, had made an attempt to restrain me physically while I was in any situation other than one where I could cause harm to another person I made it clear I would've made hell for them.

If I had been in the situation regarding your school I would just take the suspension if I forgot or something, that's ridiculous and should not be put up with. Applying to college? "Says here you were suspended, would you like to tell your side of the story? I wore a black T-shirt 2 days in a row, sorry." Wouldn't really worry me.

However, I am a college student. But by our state truancy law, even though the student in question may be 18, they can call the police and arrest you for truancy, and I wouldn't put it past them for it in the least. In fact, one of my former class mates, and a good friend was not allowed to enter the school campus the first day of school because his hair was out of code.

Quite amusing to me, because he just walked right back out of the door, and came back with it cut the next day, but kept the school board tied with 6 months of litigation :D. As part of our circuit court, number 2 or 5 if I remember correctly, students at public schools have no rights regarding dress, and are subject to the schools dress code decision. ACLU tried to break it, but the judge kept the ruling.

I just find it funny that everyone is complaining about pants sagging law as "free speech" where I had no rights for my dress code at my school, and could have easily been thrown out for both my hair and some of my pants because the bottoms were frayed from wear. However, helps being loved by my teachers. I don't agree with any of the policy put in place except for simple things like trashy clothing or walking around with completely retarded slogans. Amazingly enough our school district had a total of 5 black students, and the majority (70%) were white, rest were Hispanic.

Overall I felt it was good for those who had short attention spans in class (read: 80% of the people at my school lol) other than the hair code, since it affected mostly honor students and myself. However, they aren't relaxing the code, and in fact, are making it more enforceable and overbearing. My class was pretty much the one that brought what little changes to the school dress code. We brought on the open toed shoe change, as well as got a change on the frayed clothing which went into effect this year I believe, which allowed shorts with a cut off look, that had a hem to be worn. However, the school board won't ever forget the litigation that my buddy put them through.

This, I guess, is the difference between the south and the north.

Also, you can't be charged truant, at least here, if your parent / guardians sign a waiver (?) I believe. I withdrew from highschool ultimately at age 16, because I stopped caring (still went to school for biochemistry, don't start with me) and had pretty much only a 50% attendance record for the first 2 years of HS. If it was possible, in any way, to charge me legally I can assure you it would have been done.

[Korietsu]

Honestly? I'd just tell them to fuck off, I up and walked out the front door of my high school on numerous occasions while being reprimanded, if somebody, back when I was in high school, had made an attempt to restrain me physically while I was in any situation other than one where I could cause harm to another person I made it clear I would've made hell for them.

If I had been in the situation regarding your school I would just take the suspension if I forgot or something, that's ridiculous and should not be put up with. Applying to college? "Says here you were suspended, would you like to tell your side of the story? I wore a black T-shirt 2 days in a row, sorry." Wouldn't really worry me.

However, I am a college student. But by our state truancy law, even though the student in question may be 18, they can call the police and arrest you for truancy, and I wouldn't put it past them for it in the least. In fact, one of my former class mates, and a good friend was not allowed to enter the school campus the first day of school because his hair was out of code.

Quite amusing to me, because he just walked right back out of the door, and came back with it cut the next day, but kept the school board tied with 6 months of litigation :D. As part of our circuit court, number 2 or 5 if I remember correctly, students at public schools have no rights regarding dress, and are subject to the schools dress code decision. ACLU tried to break it, but the judge kept the ruling.

I just find it funny that everyone is complaining about pants sagging law as "free speech" where I had no rights for my dress code at my school, and could have easily been thrown out for both my hair and some of my pants because the bottoms were frayed from wear. However, helps being loved by my teachers. I don't agree with any of the policy put in place except for simple things like trashy clothing or walking around with completely retarded slogans. Amazingly enough our school district had a total of 5 black students, and the majority (70%) were white, rest were Hispanic.

Overall I felt it was good for those who had short attention spans in class (read: 80% of the people at my school lol) other than the hair code, since it affected mostly honor students and myself. However, they aren't relaxing the code, and in fact, are making it more enforceable and overbearing. My class was pretty much the one that brought what little changes to the school dress code. We brought on the open toed shoe change, as well as got a change on the frayed clothing which went into effect this year I believe, which allowed shorts with a cut off look, that had a hem to be worn. However, the school board won't ever forget the litigation that my buddy put them through.

This, I guess, is the difference between the south and the north.

Also, you can't be charged truant, at least here, if your parent / guardians sign a waiver (?) I believe. I withdrew from highschool ultimately at age 16, because I stopped caring (still went to school for biochemistry, don't start with me) and had pretty much only a 50% attendance record for the first 2 years of HS. If it was possible, in any way, to charge me legally I can assure you it would have been done.

Our school waiver, which when signed pretty much takes your rights away during school hours and during school events, and indemnify from civil suits. However, I wouldn't attend any other public school in my area if I was given a choice because the quality of education was much better than any of the other schools in my area, and I'm thankful, but that doesn't stop me from disagreeing with the rules they had in place.

[Calais~]

I hope this also includes girls super low cut jeans. I got really, really tired of seeing a bunch of girls sitting down with their asscracks showing in class. Looking like a plumber is not cute.

[BerenTebogo]

Ending the quote train pretty much to just say that I stand solidified in my thought, one that I've always held, that High School doesn't matter worth a shit, in all honesty. What purpose does it serve? It's kinda the final class you take in adjusting to difficult social circumstances and begin learning how to network with people efficiently.

Some of the brightest / most successful people I know got their G.E.D. and got out, went to a 2 year school then transferred to 4 year, then continued succeeding in life, without the added undue pressure of high school and in many cases, much happier with life overall than their conventional counterparts.

I know I for one would be a completely different person had I not had those 2 years to pretty much just fuck around and work part-time, gaining far more life experience than I ever could've in a public high school, and I was virtually stress-free, and even was able to move out on my own while I was still 16.

Quality of education in this country in terms of high schools are lacking, while I believe that you probably did attend a very high caliber H.S. I also firmly believe that all you learned in your 4 years of, well, from what you've described to me I think 'indenture' is an apt description, could have been learned in a few courses here and there at your local community college on your way to a 2-year degree. I won't stand here and say that I think everyone should run, screaming through the halls, as fast as they can out of their high schools, but I also think given the multitude of options available for you that if you are unhappy, if you are going severely against the grain and cannot reconcile the differences, sometimes causing yourself and your family more stress by trying to fight the system isn't the answer.

[Melchiah]

Or they could, you know... just wear pants that fit at the waist and stop trying to look like gangbanger hardasses.

You do not have any rights in the US until you reach the age of majority. In Alabama, that is 19. Meaning you cannot legally own anything, nor legally make a decision regarding your own welfare or that of another person. So yes, the school board and your mommy and daddy DO have the right, by law, to make you do anything they wish, as long as it's legal. Which means if they tell you to pull your fucking pants up or not to wear gang affiliated clothing, then pull your fucking pants up, and don't wear gang affiliated clothing. It doesn't make you cool. It makes you look like a faggot.

Now, with that being said: I have a major problem with the way laws are interpreted in this country regarding charging a minor as an adult. My problem is that the law says a minor is incapable of good judgment regarding his personal welfare, which is why he cannot own property or enter into a legally binding agreement such as a loan. Also the minor is barred by law from purching tobacco, alcohol and firearms, under the premise(and probably not an unjustified one) that the minor will not or cannot exercise good judgment. Ultimately, the minor has no rights because he has no capacity for good judgment in the eyes of the law, and subsequently has no legal responsibilities, such as debts or damages. Those are generally deferred to the minor's guardians, who in the eyes of the law ARE responsible for the minor's actions. However, minors can be charged as adults for the commission of certain crimes, like rape, grand larceny and murder. I have a problem with the fact that a US citizen can be charged as a legal adult for a crime, but can at the same time be denied the full rights and privileges of an adult. I feel like it is more than a bit hypocritical, but I don't have an easy solution.

And pull your fucking pants up.

[Korietsu]

I hope this also includes girls super low cut jeans. I got really, really tired of seeing a bunch of girls sitting down with their asscracks showing in class. Looking like a plumber is not cute.

Yes it does. Also applies to length on shorts as well. Also, another one for yall, no V neck shirts allowed.

@Sath, However, my high school teaching earned me 16k in scholarships, academic grants and the total cost of 18 hours of college credit through AP testing and dual credit courses (not offered at most HS in my area). However, I cannot argue with your points either. Two of my friends dropped out early because they were tired of the codes at my school, and are working for Samsung making 3 an hour more than me base pay, with 40 hours a week guaranteed on average, while I was working my part time job.

However, some of the applications, as well as experiences I wouldn't give up like percussion (which I learned through our music program) as well as the experience of being on a state finalist in UIL, a team first for my event in my school, of which the last person to attend individual in my event was in 1984. That and the bonding as a whole with some of my classmates, as well as my current girlfriend stem from my high school experience. In fact, my oldest friend who was in the same day care in Round Rock as me when we were ~2 ended up going to the same school as me, even though we were separated for two years while I attended in Leander (shitty highschool btw, AP there is our schools regular program).

However I will not deny that you can be successful without a high school degree, and depending on your personality it would be better. I also can't deny the fact that HS can be beneficial for many of those attending, and can be a potential grounds on setting yourself a solid foundation to get into college and get your degree.

[BerenTebogo]

I hope this also includes girls super low cut jeans. I got really, really tired of seeing a bunch of girls sitting down with their asscracks showing in class. Looking like a plumber is not cute.

Yes it does. Also applies to length on shorts as well. Also, another one for yall, no V neck shirts allowed.

@Sath, However, my high school teaching earned me 16k in scholarships, academic grants and the total cost of 18 hours of college credit through AP testing and dual credit courses (not offered at most HS in my area). However, I cannot argue with your points either. Two of my friends dropped out early because they were tired of the codes at my school, and are working for Samsung making 3 an hour more than me base pay, with 40 hours a week guaranteed on average, while I was working my part time job.

However, some of the applications, as well as experiences I wouldn't give up like percussion (which I learned through our music program) as well as the experience of being on a state finalist in UIL, a team first for my event in my school, of which the last person to attend individual in my event was in 1984. That and the bonding as a whole with some of my classmates, as well as my current girlfriend stem from my high school experience. In fact, my oldest friend who was in the same day care in Round Rock as me when we were ~2 ended up going to the same school as me, even though we were separated for two years while I attended in Leander (shitty highschool btw, AP there is our schools regular program).

However I will not deny that you can be successful without a high school degree, and depending on your personality it would be better. I also can't deny the fact that HS can be beneficial for many of those attending, and can be a potential grounds on setting yourself a solid foundation to get into college and get your degree.

Yeah, I agree with that.

Nothing wrong with a little asscrack from somebody who looks like Tara Ried though.

[Korietsu]

Yeah, I agree with that.

Nothing wrong with a little asscrack from somebody who looks like Tara Ried though.

/obligatory QFT.

[Senoska]

school uniforms:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3481/kyoko1sg8.jpg
(You'd go to jail.)

Not school uniforms:
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2640/hugeuvddfm4.jpg

choose wisely.

[Calais~]

Yeah, I agree with that.

Nothing wrong with a little asscrack from somebody who looks like Tara Ried though.

nothx

http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleim...ng/TaraBad.jpg

[Korietsu]

Yeah, I agree with that.

Nothing wrong with a little asscrack from somebody who looks like Tara Ried though.

nothx

http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleim...ng/TaraBad.jpg

BEFORE SHE TURNED TO SHIT KTHX.

[Ryushii]

Amazingly enough, my school district in Liberty Hill has some pretty tough dress code for central Texas. My buddy was suspended for wearing this t-shirt to school.

My input: school uniforms are stupid. I'm not terribly fashionable, but clothing is an important part of freedom of expression. Yes, I believe that schools have a right to regulate things that are distracting and a hindrance to learning. I do not, however, believe they have the right to force everyone into the same little box. There is a point where equality infringes upon the rights of individuality.

In the case of legality of such laws against dress, things like this case would more than likely perfectly legal, however, the Supreme Court has overturned laws that reduce the ability of students to use symbolic speech with clothing that is not obtrusive to learning. Things like hats, uber-mini skirts, and far-too-baggy pants make complete sense to prevent for the sake of learning, but other things like wristbands or non-offensive t-shirts are just stupid to try to prevent.

Semi-unrelated pet peeve: when we have like Character Day for spirit week, and the principal keeps yelling at the cowboy to take off his hat. He's just as damn distracting with or without it on, why the hell allow the day if you are going to be that anal about the dress code? End.

[Kuya]

Having gone through high school, i can safely say that a kid wearing a black shirt and some blue jeans is the least of their worries. Some say allowing for a little more leeway when it comes to the dresscode would be too distracting, i would say, they were paying attention before?

[Blarg]

I'm against uniforms but I also didn't go to school in some area where everyone wanted to wear g-unit clothes around their ankles. I'm also glad I got to look at thongs whenever I wanted in class because it's up to me whether I chose to look or not, weren't many fatties either.

Do they have school uniforms that come with shorts for the summer months? I would have hated to wear a uniform while playing football or soccer at lunch, hell even hackey sack could be messed up if your designated pants don't allow you to raise your let too high.

[Demosthenes11]

I'm also glad I got to look at thongs whenever I wanted in class because it's up to me whether I chose to look or not, weren't many fatties either.

God yes.
I had a nice schedule every day.
1-3 period, sleep
4-5 period stare at thongs
6 period GO THE FUCK HOME

[Deejay]

I'm also glad I got to look at thongs whenever I wanted in class because it's up to me whether I chose to look or not, weren't many fatties either.

If you choose not to look at some girls thongs why can't you choose not to look at another dudes boxers?

[Melchiah]

Edit: Not starting that bitch fest again. Carry on.

[Blarg]

I'm also glad I got to look at thongs whenever I wanted in class because it's up to me whether I chose to look or not, weren't many fatties either.

If you choose not to look at some girls thongs why can't you choose not to look at another dudes boxers?

Not sure what you mean here with the guys part and all. What I meant was that my attention to the teacher wasn't the girls with low cut jeans fault because I ultimately chose to look at them over the teacher, if I didn't learn something cause I wasn't paying attention then it was my own fault.