Help solve this dispute, BG!

[Lordender]

I have never seen a king pop on the day of maint in the years of killing them but that doesn't say it can't happen >.>

[Koga]

HQ > Day 1: 100% NQ > Day 2: HQ chance begins

Personal experience based on seeing, hearing, and actually killing.

Edit: Personally never seen/fought/heard of a maintainence day king on Ifrit but heard about them on other servers.

Holy fucking contradiction, Batman!

I think he means something like this...which is what i used to believe; Presuming server has been up for a few days:
hq pops > 100% nq on day0 > day1: 12.5%HQ Rate > day2: 25%hq rate > day3: 37.5%hq rate > day4: 50%hq rate > day5: 62.5% > day6: 75%hq rate > day7:87.5%hq rate > day8: 100%hq
rinse repeat.

I don't think he means that the first HQ in his post = day1 after maint.

That was back in 05/06 though when this was thought to be the general consensus.

[Tsukasaz]

This whole discussion is pointless because nid never pops on the first nid day anyway. He likes to be fashionably late (ie, the day it's too far out of BG's time for us to camp.)

Discussion is pretty much over after this, honestly, because we all know it's correct.

[Tricen]

I have never once, ever seen a king pop after a maint. Ever. So, until I see a king pop on maint. day, they do not pop on maint. days. It's been said many many times in this thread that it's 3 days of NQ and then HQ's start. Day 9 Nidhoggs are lame as fuck.

[Valisk]

HQ > Day 1: 100% NQ > Day 2: HQ chance begins

Personal experience based on seeing, hearing, and actually killing.

Edit: Personally never seen/fought/heard of a maintainence day king on Ifrit but heard about them on other servers.

Holy fucking contradiction, Batman!

Not sure where you see the contradiction but if you need clarification: HQ (no maintenance) > Day 1 (after HQ): 100% NQ) > Day 2: 1% chance of HQ > Day 3: 10% chance of HQ > Day 4: 25% Day 5: 50% chance of HQ > etc. (made up percentages)

I've personally never seen a king pop the day of maintenance but have heard about it on other servers.

[Raineer]

I have never once, ever seen a king pop after a maint. Ever. So, until I see a king pop on maint. day, they do not pop on maint. days. It's been said many many times in this thread that it's 3 days of NQ and then HQ's start. Day 9 Nidhoggs are lame as fuck.

k jesus

[Demosthenes11]

HQ > Day 1: 100% NQ > Day 2: HQ chance begins

Personal experience based on seeing, hearing, and actually killing.

Edit: Personally never seen/fought/heard of a maintainence day king on Ifrit but heard about them on other servers.

Holy fucking contradiction, Batman!

Not sure where you see the contradiction but if you need clarification: HQ (no maintenance) > Day 1 (after HQ): 100% NQ) > Day 2: 1% chance of HQ > Day 3: 10% chance of HQ > Day 4: 25% Day 5: 50% chance of HQ > etc. (made up percentages)

I've personally never seen a king pop the day of maintenance but have heard about it on other servers.

Nobody has ever, ever seen a day 2 pop, or even heard of one. Day 2 is 100% NQ. And if it is possible for day 3 to HQ (I'm pretty sure it's not), it would have to be a .0001% chance, or it would happen like once a week on servers. As far as length goes, there is no cap foreseeable or measurable really, seen day 11+ before, it's just super uncommon for obvious reasons.

Never seen a maintenance HQ pop, but I guess I'll take people's word for it

[Royal]

<Sath> HOW COULD I BE SO BLIND
<Sath> MY ENTIRE LIFE IS A LIE
<Sath> THE CAKE
<Sath> THE WOMEN
<Sath> THE ASHIRA
<@Rocl> yeah youre pretty much retarded
<Sath> ITS ALL A LIE
<Sath> brb, an-izzy

Not exactly sure what an -izzy is, but it seems like a burn on him. So I approve of this message.

Sorry a page late for this. But I believe this means going to upgrade a useless relic. Just wanted to clarify.

[Valisk]

I didn't believe in Day 2 HQs either until I saw Apsi pop 2 days after it last died. I've seen Day 13 Turtles/Behemoths so I'm aware there isn't a "cap".

[*Shinzon*]

This thread is like the argument: Well I've never seen it so therefore it must not be true. Theres percentage for the pop, increasing day by day gradually. The fact that you didn't see it doesn't mean shit. some people have and I'm pretty sure it's remotely possible considering all things, just very rarely occurring.

[Eander]

I'd post my opinion on pop conditions, but it'd just be another "I've seen it" blah blah blah opinion, so I'll keep it to myself.

However, the term an-izzy shall never leave my vocabulary from this moment forward.

[Demosthenes11]

god why do you guys even bait him anymore
Every time someone mentions him, he comes in here "QQ ;;" and its annoying as hell

[Msnl]

Until I see a post with a HQ King popped after maint, and clocked, I'm not going to believe it. If it's possible, it will happen, and there have been times before where there was a maint scheduled and cancelled (wasn't there one last year sometime?), maybe this is where some people think its coming from.

[Niki]

Day #2 and #3 chances for HQ? I think someone fucked up the counting there...Day#4 is the first chance for HQ. At least for Aspi/Nid/KB (Dunno about adamantking etc). Discussion reminds of the crap that ppl saying they "saw" cerb/khim pop less than 48hrs after its death (without any maint) etc.
HQ can pop the day after a maint, but not right after a maint (within 3hrs).

[Therin]

Day #2 and #3 chances for HQ? I think someone fucked up the counting there...Day#4 is the first chance for HQ. At least for Aspi/Nid/KB (Dunno about adamantking etc). Discussion reminds of the crap that ppl saying they "saw" cerb/khim pop less than 48hrs after its death (without any maint) etc.
HQ can pop the day after a maint, but not right after a maint (within 3hrs).

Listen, we realize that the vast majority of people haven't seen HQ pop on maintenance, and therefore don't believe it, but there's really no reason for you to just come in and say, "This is true because I say so," and expect your word to become law. Just saying.

This thread is getting really annoying to read because it's almost continually people just saying, "Blah, kings don't pop after maintenance because I haven't seen it!"

[Niki]

Listen, you can believe what you want and waste your time as much as you want, based on what 3-4 ppl have seen in the past 3 years. On the other side you could go with the stuff that 99,9% of the other ppl say and have observed. I really dont care what you do^^
2 1/2 years of camping kings every single day and there was never a HQ pop before day#4 and never a HQ pop right after a maint. We started to camp when they changed the claiming stuff/1hr rage timer, so i dont really know about the time before that. Maybe they changed with that patch the chance of a HQ popping after a maint.

[Sev]

if there is actual proof that kings can pop off maint, wouldn't it be easier to just say maint starts day4? We never see day 3 pops, day 4 everyone agrees can hq.

[PeaceNLove]

Day 3 can never ever be an HQ. This works for any sort of 'king'. King Behemoth, Nidhogg, Aspi, Overlord, Tzee or Adamantking. They all work the same timers. Maint is always day 3.

Just for the record, HQs can pop on what is termed "day 3," just as long as it's been 72 hours since last HQ death (so it's technically day 4 although it's the third pop since last HQ). It takes some last window pops, shitty LSs taking a long time killing Fafnir, and a lot of luck, but day 3 HQ pops can and do occur.

[Zumi]

I always gone with day 1-3 100% NQ, day 4 HQ chance.

In all my playtime I have also never seen an HQ pop after matainence.

[Xno Kappa]

Listen, you can believe what you want and waste your time as much as you want, based on what 3-4 ppl have seen in the past 3 years. On the other side you could go with the stuff that 99,9% of the other ppl say and have observed. I really dont care what you do^^
2 1/2 years of camping kings every single day and there was never a HQ pop before day#4 and never a HQ pop right after a maint. We started to camp when they changed the claiming stuff/1hr rage timer, so i dont really know about the time before that. Maybe they changed with that patch the chance of a HQ popping after a maint.

cuz for proof you needz to see a timestamp, a copy of the new york times, social security number, 3 forms of identification, a grandma as an eyewitness, and a cheese sammich synthed on the occasion amirite!!!!