Help solve this dispute, BG!

[Rocl]

Don't you bring race into this

[Niki]

Listen, you can believe what you want and waste your time as much as you want, based on what 3-4 ppl have seen in the past 3 years. On the other side you could go with the stuff that 99,9% of the other ppl say and have observed. I really dont care what you do^^
2 1/2 years of camping kings every single day and there was never a HQ pop before day#4 and never a HQ pop right after a maint. We started to camp when they changed the claiming stuff/1hr rage timer, so i dont really know about the time before that. Maybe they changed with that patch the chance of a HQ popping after a maint.

cuz for proof you needz to see a timestamp, a copy of the new york times, social security number, 3 forms of identification, a grandma as an eyewitness, and a cheese sammich synthed on the occasion amirite!!!!

Nah, would be enough seeing it by myself or multiple ppl reporting it after a maint.

Maint soon, anyone wants to bet against no HQs gonna pop?

[TheHeph]

Day #2 and #3 chances for HQ? I think someone fucked up the counting there...Day#4 is the first chance for HQ. At least for Aspi/Nid/KB (Dunno about adamantking etc). Discussion reminds of the crap that ppl saying they "saw" cerb/khim pop less than 48hrs after its death (without any maint) etc.
HQ can pop the day after a maint, but not right after a maint (within 3hrs).

Listen, we realize that the vast majority of people haven't seen HQ pop on maintenance, and therefore don't believe it, but there's really no reason for you to just come in and say, "This is true because I say so," and expect your word to become law. Just saying.

This thread is getting really annoying to read because it's almost continually people just saying, "Blah, kings don't pop after maintenance because I haven't seen it!"

Based off personal experiences I can agree with Therin on seeing an HQ pop after a maint. A competing LS killed it back on Kujata a couple months back and was the only instance of it I've personally seen. I'll try and get a ss sometime if it ever happens again x.x It appears it's a really low % of pop or random bugged occurrence.

Also, never saw an HQ pop days 1-3 but that's just on what I've seen myself. I can't say otherwise o.o which always makes me second guess what day maint actually sets them to. Guess people will start watching this with a closer eye from now on o.o

[Ashira]

Day 3 can never ever be an HQ. This works for any sort of 'king'. King Behemoth, Nidhogg, Aspi, Overlord, Tzee or Adamantking. They all work the same timers. Maint is always day 3.

Just for the record, HQs can pop on what is termed "day 3," just as long as it's been 72 hours since last HQ death (so it's technically day 4 although it's the third pop since last HQ). It takes some last window pops, shitty LSs taking a long time killing Fafnir, and a lot of luck, but day 3 HQ pops can and do occur.

Now this actually makes some sense, if it's based solely off of the previous Nidhogg death. Would also explain why there were "some" day3 pops but why we don't see it anymore, because of rage timers and faster fights, etc.

But that's again, reliant on it being based solely on Nidhogg pop time, and not based off of placeholder (Fafx3) times.

[Hex]

My theory on these "day 3 pops" is there was a Maint involved somewhere in there and ppl just don't remember. They Just remember a King Popping super fast. We've got 2 Nidhogg's in about a 30 hour span before due to a Maint. Our first ever KB Claim was the day AFTER a Maint with 9 people total in BD. I've camped this stuff long enough and I've never seen a Day 2 or Pop Right after Maint.

[Jaffar]

Carl Everett doesn't believe dinosaurs existed because he never saw them.

[Xrave]

Nah, would be enough seeing it by myself or multiple ppl reporting it after a maint.

Maint soon, anyone wants to bet against no HQs gonna pop?

As has been covered in the thread, it's a low chance of it happening, but it does happen. I've personally seen kings pop on maintenance...along with many others in this thread.

[Shuemue]

Carl Everett doesn't believe dinosaurs existed because he never saw them.

Piss poor analogy. Carl Everett didn't live in the same era and run around camping the same fucking NMs as the dinosaurs.

[Niki]

Nah, would be enough seeing it by myself or multiple ppl reporting it after a maint.

Maint soon, anyone wants to bet against no HQs gonna pop?

As has been covered in the thread, it's a low chance of it happening, but it does happen. I've personally seen kings pop on maintenance...along with many others in this thread.

There were multiple ppl in the thread about Khim/Cerb saying they saw them pop before the 48hr mark after death. And thats bs. I just think someone misscounted days like they misscounted hours or there was a partial area maintenance that didnt reset the timer of HNMs. Maybe im wrong and we will miss a HQ right after a maint or on day #3, but until that happens i will trust my own experience. It definately never happened on Diabolos from August 2005-January 2008 and it never happened on Phoenix since January 2008.

[Shuemue]

I'm certain that if a genuine maint. king had happened, it would have been posted on BG.

[Galatea]

I'm certain that if a genuine maint. king had happened, it would have been posted on BG.

Been thinking this throughout the whole thread.

I would also side on the 72 hour respawn, as that is what I have been assuming for a while...
New / shitty LS claims last window a couple days in a row and you get a day3 HQ?
Never seen it (like everyone else), just figured that's how SE did their NM's.
I didn't think that this subject/concern/debate was still viable, but I don't know as fact
fkn<3

PS~ If you dont kill NQ for x amount of days, it would be NQ(dayx), not just +1 day

[Xavier]

Not that I want to call you liars, but clearly no child left behind has failed to teach kids how to count.

[Alistaire]

I know of HQ pops after maintenance, but not in a looooong time. It's my understanding what day it was either got messed up on some maintenances and/or they ninja fixed it.

[Noob]

If ANYONE else had made this topic, it would have been locked within 30 seconds Q_Q. This is spam forum shit Q_Q

Shit's situational here on BG. If anyone but Septimus(and a few other BG favorites) made a thread about his 9000'th post in advanced, it too would've most likely been locked.

[Khrno]

HQ can definitely pop on server up, have seen it multiple times.

How often would you say it happens? Note I don't actually believe you, I'm just trying to bait you.

I haven't seen it the times I've been camping for the last year, but I agree with Van and whoever else have said the same.

I've seen around 5 kings pops in the past 2-4 years, the one I remember the most was a day when we did 2 NH back to back the same day (pre/post maintenance), followed by a last window Aspi.

Another I remember was a KB that was already up with the servers, killing random people that logged there too.

[Noob]

Day #2 and #3 chances for HQ? I think someone fucked up the counting there...Day#4 is the first chance for HQ. At least for Aspi/Nid/KB (Dunno about adamantking etc). Discussion reminds of the crap that ppl saying they "saw" cerb/khim pop less than 48hrs after its death (without any maint) etc.
HQ can pop the day after a maint, but not right after a maint (within 3hrs).

Listen, we realize that the vast majority of people haven't seen HQ pop on maintenance, and therefore don't believe it, but there's really no reason for you to just come in and say, "This is true because I say so," and expect your word to become law. Just saying.

This thread is getting really annoying to read because it's almost continually people just saying, "Blah, kings don't pop after maintenance because I haven't seen it!"

Positive you weren't drunk/high/disoriented in some way/confused in some way, shape, or form that day?

4~5 people posting it happened vs the world will tend to lead people into believing the world.

And for the record, when us respectable people say "Day 3 NQ", we're not talking from a technical point (3'rd day, after 12am). We're talking about 3 actual pops. So please, stop confusing the two.

[HadesChubbs]

As for that "72 hour" rule.. i call bullshit, who camps Adamantoise religiously? I've known it to sit up for 3-4hrs.. when noone bothers going day1-3. Usually we have an LS that kills 1-3 or random ppl go, but its not uncommon for the ToD to get pushed back (instead of forward).

It can easily pass the 72hr mark.. why no day3 pops eh?

[Izzy]

<Sath> HOW COULD I BE SO BLIND
<Sath> MY ENTIRE LIFE IS A LIE
<Sath> THE CAKE
<Sath> THE WOMEN
<Sath> THE ASHIRA
<@Rocl> yeah youre pretty much retarded
<Sath> ITS ALL A LIE
<Sath> brb, an-izzy

Not exactly sure what an -izzy is, but it seems like a burn on him. So I approve of this message.

Sorry a page late for this. But I believe this means going to upgrade a useless relic. Just wanted to clarify.

Needs more 4chan trolling for failing Q_Q

[Noob]

I'm certain that if a genuine maint. king had happened, it would have been posted on BG.

[savageboy]

Just for the record, HQs can pop on what is termed "day 3," just as long as it's been 72 hours since last HQ death (so it's technically day 4 although it's the third pop since last HQ). It takes some last window pops, shitty LSs taking a long time killing Fafnir, and a lot of luck, but day 3 HQ pops can and do occur.

hmmm...so you're saying if left up for more than 48 hrs...then nid can pop a day 2? a tantalizing and interesting situation that should and will not be tested