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    Re: Governator cutting education funds!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin
    Honestly you need to just admit that a-c is not practical. You can talk about how virtuous of a system it would be if every single person was a 'good' human being that shared the same morals and ethics, but otherwise you're only repeatedly causing self-defeat by proposing it in a real world setting.
    no actually, a-c is relying that every person is greedy and has primarily self-interest at heart.

    What you should do, is pick up ANY of the libertarian/anarchist authors and just read before you start arguing something you don't even fully understand.

    You complain that I don't explain things myself, but how can I? We had a 2 page discussion for nothing because I thought you knew what natural law meant. Do you know what it means when I say market forces, or competition? Hell, do you even know what the "market" represents in essence?

    Seriously, ask a competent question. You've asked really interesting ones so far, but they were all very basic and dismissable with moment's thought.

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    Re: Governator cutting education funds!!

    Problem with natural law is that obviously not everyone is predisposed to following it logically. And of course, whose version of natural law do we want to talk about? Either way, you seem to be under the pretense that because it has the word "natural" in front of it, that somehow people are genetically programmed to follow it. Natural law is the reasonable response to a state of nature where your biggest fear is getting killed. Yet we know that people can act irrationally or in a manner that puts lust for capital gain ahead of Hobbes' first law of "pursue peace above all else."

    Market is basically the social representation of economy? Probably a bad way of wording it, but it concerns buyers and sellers, services, etc. Supply and demand, yada yada yada. However you keep implying that market forces would entirely prevent aggression, yet I've shown some "simple" examples where they simply wouldn't.

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