Just for your consideration (Rapture related)

[BlueBlackSky]

Not sure if this belongs here, posting it here cause the veteran players seem to be the most observant of the er.. lack of effort that went into the development of Wings of the Goddess. Aim of this isn't really discussion on it's merits or flaws, just it's development.

Here's the new MMORPG that SE is working on, Rapture, note the obvious style similarity to FFXI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untitled_S ... ix_project

The head of the project is Hiromichi Tanaka, the same man who headed the majority of FFXI's development.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiromichi_Tanaka

Note his game credits list;

* The Death Trap (programmer)
* Genesis (producer/scenario/game design)
* Alpha
* Crystal Dragon
* Yokohama Minato Renzoku Satsujin Jiken
* Final Fantasy (game design)
* Final Fantasy II (game design)
* Final Fantasy III (game design)
* Final Fantasy Legend II (game data)
* Secret of Mana (producer, concept / System design, Scenario message data)
* Seiken Densetsu 3 (director)
* Xenogears (producer/battle design)
* Chrono Cross (producer/battle design)
* Threads of Fate (producer)
* Final Fantasy XI (producer)
o Final Fantasy XI: Rise of the Zilart (producer)
o Final Fantasy XI: Chains of Promathia (producer)
o Final Fantasy XI: Treasures of Aht Urhgan (producer)
* Final Fantasy III (DS version) (executive producer/director)
* Rapture (code name) (unreleased)

Edit: Found several interviews confirming he was the producer for WoTG, this however doesn't excuse the splitting of available resources to work on more than one game at a time.

Wings of the Goddess is absent from this list. Perhaps the wiki is out of date, or maybe most of the dev team left to work on Rapture. This would explain ToAU's unfinished state and WoTG er.. lacking development.

Please ignore if this is obvious to everyone or feel free to move if it doesn't belong here mods, just wanted to point it out.

[Tearshang]

I hope it has cheese sandwhiches

[Falisa]

Lets try and play nice this time please.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Tanaka was at the fanfest, he's still working on FFXI.

[Gwynplaine]

I certainly want to uphold BG's fine tradition of playing nice so I'll just repost the Interview pertaining to the topic.

Imperial Ninja: You’ve stated in the past that the same team that works on Final Fantasy 11 is going to be working on the new MMO and players are concerned that the new MMO as it grows the attention will shift from this new MMO away from Final Fantasy 11 and slowly get neglected. So how are you planning to split your time between both MMOs to ensure that they both get the same attention?

It’s not necessarily that the members of the 11 team are going over to the new project and leaving the FF11 project it’s that they’re working on both of them at the same time so there are members that both work on the new project and FF11 as well as new members are always being added to the FF11 team. As well as new members from other teams (they’re head hunting from other teams) to get them to work on new projects as well. And so the team sizes haven’t changed at all so even though there is some moving around the FF11 team size is still the same.

Pikko: Do you anticipate being able to maintain that balance as it progresses more into production?

We hope to maintain that balance as long as possible, we’ll just keep getting new people. However, the main programmer that’s on FF11, Mr. Yamamoto, he’s also the main programmer on the new project so his job has been pretty difficult because he’s been going back and forth doing everything on both of them. But other than that we don’t see any problems with that.

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/sdetail.html?story=11328

[Zalius]

you would have think they'd learned about putting games on consoles

ah well

[Hecatonchires]

It has relevance because many are disappointed with the content and pacing of WotG as compared to RoZ, CoP, and ToAU, all of which Hiromichi Tanaka worked on.

[Lordender]

meh WoTG is flat out worthless unless:

A.your one of those people thats a job whore/going for maats cap.

B. die so much you never have a full buffer for long and use campaign to get buffer back.

C. Can only play for a few meager hours a week and just happen to be leveling some job.

but hey, atleast we got salvage right?

[Shassira]

but hey, atleast we got salvage right?

This here sums my current view of the game.

[BlueBlackSky]

Not to mention the crappy-ness of being forced to play if you want to retain your medal ranks. Ugh.

[Epical]

If you want to talk about Rapture, then be my guest, but if this thread turns into a FFXI sucks/I hate FFXI/IonlydooneventeverbecausemyMooglehurtsme/etcetc thread, it's getting locked. If it does, pray that an admin doesn't look at it since there are rules against blatent bashing and I wouldn't want anything to happen to your forum account!

Play nice kiddies.

[BlueBlackSky]

If you want to talk about Rapture, then be my guest, but if this thread turns into a FFXI sucks/I hate FFXI/IonlydooneventeverbecausemyMooglehurtsme/etcetc thread, it's getting locked. If it does, pray that an admin doesn't look at it since there are rules against blatent bashing and I wouldn't want anything to happen to your forum account!

Play nice kiddies.

XI is a great game, why else would I still be playing after 4 years? There's still plenty of good content despite WoTG problems.

[Maxxthepenguin]

GOD DAMN IT

We don't need any more fucking threads whining about WotG. Can we make a fucking WotG whining thread and sticky it?

Plus, the wikipedia article seems to show WotG to me. So shut up you cuntrags.

TY Alfred the Epic. God I'm sick of this shit.

[Hecatonchires]

Plus, the wikipedia article seems to show WotG to me. So shut up you cuntrags.

In an edit made 2 hours after OP. Is your IP [[Boink!]] by any chance?


Admin Edit : No no to personal info

[BRP]

Rapture isn't FFXI related. So I would suggest it not even be in FFXI forums, that could prevent some of the crybaby about WotG.

[Xno Kappa]

Rapture isn't FFXI related. So I would suggest it not even be in FFXI forums, that could prevent some of the crybaby about WotG.

cuz WotG iz teh shiznit!!! amirite!!!@!@$!2!?
I actually look forward into seeing how this game will turn out.

[Zumi]

If its Vista only and doesn't work on XP I don't see it selling well.

[BlueBlackSky]

If its Vista only and doesn't work on XP I don't see it selling well.

It probably will if it comes out in say 2010 or something. Which seems likely given how long MMORPG development takes. Hell, it could be even longer than that.

[Genosync]

so why is this in advanced again when it deals with a producer being on a different game?

just wondering

[BRP]

so why is this in advanced again when it deals with a producer being on a different game?

just wondering

While people are at it, maybe reasons why there are like 3 advice threads on the frontpage