Kabura kabura kabura... and Moghouse energy for bonecrafting

[Vacht]

So theres this bonecrafter on carbuncle named kabura. He/she crafts everything.. anything in the AH history is him. The DH+1, Hades sainti+1, Cursed harness-1 x4, countless cursed leggings and gloves -1.. Ok so i get the idea that this guy is rich, and is able to just craft constantly without caring about how much he loses, because apparently hes gonna make it back.

I assume this guy and all other bonecrafters have energy in their mog house. I have a 100 bone, 60 all subs, but ive never actually researched it besides printing out all the recipes and im not really sure where to find info regarding moglification. Id greatly appreciate any info, links or something on here if you feel like typing it out. ANYTHING is appreciated!!

Ive talked to a few bonecrafters and theyve said max darkness energy. My friend tried that i guess, so ijust asked his experience. With 7 dark lamps or something crazy like that he didnt see much difference. So... I come to you!

(im on PS2 with no PC, which is why i havnt had access to these means. yay for library tho.)

[zhan]

Energy means nothing.


If you have the "Moghancment: Bonecraft" or "Moglification: Bonecraft" You're getting the 1 extra skill and that's all you need.

[Seyrr]

It seems like energy means nothing for most, if not all, Moghancements. Which ones DOES the strength of energy affect, and does it have any other effect besides potentially strengthening a Moghancement?

I've idly wondered if the reason that Moglifications don't seem to work is because strong energy is needed to boost the chances of it kicking in, but I'll admit right now I haven't read those posts recently/carefully enough to justify the idea.

[Gatsby]

The only real test I've seen for moghouse energy was back during the old /wait fishing system. One person on LisaArndt concluded that energy had no meaning whatsoever.

Out of curiosity, I'm leveling subs for my Goldsmithing with moglification. Does the item reduction loss help with other crafts or just the main craft?

[Kaelan]

Energy means nothing.

You HQ some, you break some. That's all there is to it.

[tymora]

Or perhaps it only works in the house?

[Tomiko]

Out of curiosity, I'm leveling subs for my Goldsmithing with moglification. Does the item reduction loss help with other crafts or just the main craft?

Doesn't help with anything depending on who you ask.

[aurik]

The only real test I've seen for moghouse energy was back during the old /wait fishing system. One person on LisaArndt concluded that energy had no meaning whatsoever.

Out of curiosity, I'm leveling subs for my Goldsmithing with moglification. Does the item reduction loss help with other crafts or just the main craft?

Energy has been concretely proven not to affect the strength of mog:<craft>

[Scorsese]

One of our linkshell members has Bonecraft and Clothcraft at 100, and has HQ'd multiple things ranging from HQ Dalmatica, HQ Dragon Harness and several Genie Weskits. I've talked to him, and I've seen his moghouse (I've access to his account), and he has practically no furniture to enhance the effects, aside from the +1 furniture, nor does he follow the rules of direction or moon phase.


....some people are just that lucky.

[Tomiko]

One of our linkshell members has Bonecraft and Clothcraft at 100, and has HQ'd multiple things ranging from HQ Dalmatica, HQ Dragon Harness and several Genie Weskits. I've talked to him, and I've seen his moghouse (I've access to his account), and he has practically no furniture to enhance the effects, aside from the +1 furniture, nor does he follow the rules of direction or moon phase.


....some people are just Japanese.

Fix'd. :bagel:

[Souj]

ive always thought the higher the energy, the lesser the chance for losing materials when you break a synth.

[Jayhawk]

ive always thought the higher the energy, the lesser the chance for losing materials when you break a synth.

Key word here is thought. I haven't found sufficient evidence to back up the claim that moghouse energy affected crafting.

[aurik]

Has been shown statistically unlikely that higher energy = better items savings with mog:crystal.
I don't know that similar tests have been done with moglif:craft yet.

[Souj]

ive always thought the higher the energy, the lesser the chance for losing materials when you break a synth.

Key word here is thought. I haven't found sufficient evidence to back up the claim that moghouse energy affected crafting.

that's why I used the word

[Martinius]

yeah, the power of the element only effects the possibility of losing materials when using a crystal of that element.

for example: my cooking mule is 100+2 and i intentionally(and a little bit b/c im lazy) don't have the +1 furnishing b/c i don't want to break t1 on tav salads(yes, i know i could just take the apron and hat off, but my way doesn't cost 150k GP), so i have overwhelming fire energy in my MH. that means when i be makin teh pais, etc, if i fail the synth, i have a lower chance of losing the materials(i broke a rabbit pie synth the other day and only lost a wild onion, and my taru started humping my totem poles, i would've cried losing that mushroom). however, if im crafting sushi, said bonus doesn't penalize me, but there's no defence against losing materials unless i were to muster up 350k gp for moglification.

with my main, which is woodworking, i don't even bother with energy b/c i have my moghancement woodworking(142/200 to moglification), and i am only interested in keeping that active. to say nothing of other than cursed kabuto, most of my money synths are wind based, and that'd dick over my moghancement, so i just work on my moglification.

[Jayhawk]

Has been shown statistically unlikely that higher energy = better items savings with mog:crystal.
I don't know that similar tests have been done with moglif:craft yet.

yeah, the power of the element only effects the possibility of losing materials when using a crystal of that element.

wtf

[Martinius]

im speaking only when in regards to moghancement: element, not moghancement: crafting, which i think aurik is talking about.

when i boot over to my windows partition, i'll take a screenshot of the moghancement: fire on dedalus, where under key items, it specifically says 'reduces chances of losing materials when failing a synth of this crystal's element' or something to that effect.

[Jayhawk]

Aurik said mog:crystal (i.e., mog: element). So it has been shown that the power for mog: element has no effect.