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    Paladin AF+1 Question

    I was curious as to which would be better to upgrade first, body or feet. Both seem like good pieces, but is one really better than the other?

    Body +1:
    DEF: 55 HP +20 VIT +6
    Divine Magic Skill +8
    Enmity +2

    Feet +1:
    DEF: 19 HP +20 CHR +5
    Shield skill +12
    Enhances "Holy Circle" effect

    If this has already been posted about please feel free to berate me >.>;.

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    I'm sure there is someone who will have to think hard about not berating you, but I won't. This is probably Random Question Thread worthy.

    I personally went leggings +1 first, because they are ridiculously useful for any situation where you have a shield and want to block attacks (This happens a lot as a Paladin) such as when Utsusemi is down, or you are using another subjob that is not Ninja. Also, the only reason I am getting the surcoat +1 is for storage reasons (AKA no Valor Surcoat) because the +1 does not enhance the stats I wear the surcoat for. I want to see Gallant Surcoat +1 with +22 or more HP and +3 enmity. THAT would be a useful +1 upgrade and a good intermediary between Gallant and Valor.

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    Difference between NQ and HQ Body
    +8 DEF, +2 VIT, +3 lolDivine

    I don't see a reason to upgrade since it costs you 30 ABC to do so. Unless you are doing it so you can +1 body and feet.. then redo the rest and store.

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    Difference between NQ and HQ feet
    +5 DEF, +5 HP, +5 Shield Skill

    Even this is marginally better. Personally, if I were to upgrade, it'd be the feet. Then just forget about the body. I don't really want to spend 30 ABC (the equivalent of around 240k on my server) just for a couple vit and def.

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    Feet

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    feet first. nothing to discuss about that.
    and upgrading body... well... if you have the slightest chance to get valor surcoat, forget about it, unless you really have too much money you want to waste on the additional runs for materials and coins.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mosh
    +5 Shield Skill
    wish it were +5 in difference... but even +2 is worth the effort

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Mosh
    Difference between NQ and HQ feet
    +5 DEF, +5 HP, +5 Shield Skill
    Difference is 2 shield skill.

    Keep in mind you'll never use the body as soon as you get anything better. Valor or Ares something like that. However you'll continue to keep the feet on you and use it as a macro piece (or full time if you lack other items).

    So like the others said, feet first. It has value, body not so much.

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    Oops, I even pulled up the wiki pages for them.

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    Valor body did drop last Xarc run, but I was out lotted =/. I was leaning towards upgrading feet, though I was told by a friend valor feet were better due to the enmity on them (I know better) and to go for body.

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    It all boils down to luck, really. We've seen 1 valor surcoat and zero deimos bodies in the past two years in our LS; The question is: do you feel lucky, punk?

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    Yes =x?

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    don't waste coins on either. Wait 3 years until SE adds rest of the Iron Ram PLD gear and get that ;3

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    I've thought about switching to Sandy for that gear, but I don't want to lose my rank
    ; ;. But enmity and the set bonus is tempting enough to change nations

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    Feet then Body

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    Feet, then you can get body whenever. I never got the +1 body, I just used AF body till I got my Ares's body.

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    Quote Originally Posted by kazen
    Feet, then you can get body whenever. I never got the +1 body, I just used AF body till I got my Ares's body.

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferien
    Quote Originally Posted by kazen
    Feet, then you can get body whenever. I never got the +1 body, I just used AF body till I realized I wasn't going to do anything but level PLD to 75 and wore a Hauby and subbed nin the whole time and kept hate anyway.

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Isawa
    I've thought about switching to Sandy for that gear, but I don't want to lose my rank
    ; ;. But enmity and the set bonus is tempting enough to change nations
    i switched to Sandy, from Windy, didnt lose my Holyknight $$$$ emblem, or any alllied notes. and i was able to get both Iron Ram pieces.

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    Quote Originally Posted by ReddwarfX
    Quote Originally Posted by Isawa
    I've thought about switching to Sandy for that gear, but I don't want to lose my rank
    ; ;. But enmity and the set bonus is tempting enough to change nations
    i switched to Sandy, from Windy, didnt lose my Holyknight $$$$ emblem, or any alllied notes. and i was able to get both Iron Ram pieces.
    you lose the rank when you switch back i believe

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    Well nothing to add really, other than reiterating that Feet are the only piece I'd say to upgrade.
    I upgraded body, but only because I had the pieces and lack Valor/Ares's, there's no gain from it other than looking slightly cooler than Adaman PLDs and much less cool than Valor/Ares's.

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    Re: Paladin AF+1 Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Isawa
    I was leaning towards upgrading feet, though I was told by a friend valor feet were better due to the enmity on them (I know better) and to go for body.
    No offense, but your friend is clueless. There's no difference between a Full Time Adaman feet PLD and a Full time Valor Feet PLD for everything not /NIN. And even then, it depends on your setup and gear available.

    Go for Feet. I also upgraded Body, but it was just to have a white box, there's no real usefulness to do this. Hell, Breeches +1 are more useful if you solo a lot....

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