A Place for Musicians

[Tricen]

Drummer and a DJ? Wow, that's the bottom of the pile right there

Because beat matching, the absolute key to proper mixing and DJ technique doesn't require a sense of rythem.

[quote:3lznb9h5]I need a drummer. Preferably one that doesn't look at me like I'm crazy when I mention jazz-punk death metal.

We already have a dillinger escape plan.[/quote:3lznb9h5]
Matchcore gogogo, and that is the style I love drumming <_<

[Lavik]

mathcore is fucking savage

[Tricen]

mathcore is fucking savage

Eh, it's ok. Has it's ups and downs. Irony is a dead scene is fucking amazing. DEPs new CD is ok I guess.

[Kaliden]

My favorite genres lately have been post-hardcore, progressive, and mathcore. Something about changing time signatures over and over excites me.

[Tricen]

Psyopus and the Locusts, check them out.

[Sanoske]

Music is more of a hobby for me.

Been playing saxophone for 13-14(?) years now, started in elementary school... like most of us do. Also play clarinet when the occasion calls.

http://themartinstory.net/version7/m...lto-gold-5.jpg

My baby is a 1938 Martin Comm 1 Alto. This is the sax I started on, and I am amazingly lucky to have it. Took me a while to appreciate what an amazing instrument it is. Tone quality and action are way above anything else I've ever played (even something like a Selmer Mark VI, which is considered one of the greatest saxes ever made). I have a tenor as well, which is a 70s Bundy student model that I have from high school, but it was free and for what it is, I think it has a nice sound.

I don't play much these days, but during the summers I get together with friends who are music majors/have jazz combos and will perform occasionally.

Also been playing guitar on and off for 5-6 years, but I never practice and may go weeks without playing. I have a Ventura 12 string acoustic and a First Act electric 6 string VW edition.
http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/uploads/guitar2.jpg
Specially made by VW for those who bought a car during a certain period. I am a VW nut, I needed a new guitar and my parents were looking to trade in their older VW, so it worked out perfectly. Not an amazing guitar, but it gets the job done.

[Lavik]

chris arp just destroys worlds seriously
i recommend #12
i guess sometimes daughters & heavyheavylowlow do some interesting stuff

Hella is amazing; everyone needs to listen to this band.

[Kaliden]

Check out Tera Melos, they usually do instrumentals but they're awesome. Towards the end of Imogen's Puzzle pt.2 sounds exactly like their music.

[Lavik]

i love tera melos
hopefully ill get to see them again on this tour in may with tfot
you know their drummer just quit?

[Kaliden]

i love tera melos
hopefully ill get to see them again on this tour in may with tfot
you know their drummer just quit?

.......What? Why

edit: I didn't know Tera Melos was gonna be in Cleveland with The Fall of Troy. Tickets only listed The Fall of Troy and The Dear Hunter. Now I have to see this thing.

[Huggo]

Music is a hobby for me right now and will probably stay that way. I was trying to actively find a band to play in last few years but each and every one I tried to get into wanted me to drop out of college to play with them.

[Kaliden]

I've been trying to find a band for a while as well. There are some guys that I jammed with one time, but I haven't found anything serious.

[Darunia]

Started playing guitar few years back, my dad noticed i liked playing heavier music so he got me this, as James "Munky" Shaffer is my idol, for my 18th:
Ibanez Apex1
http://www.audio-electric-shop.de/sh...anez-Apex1.jpg
Hard as hell for me to get used to playing 7 string but now id call myself pretty pro

[Obev]

Drummer and a DJ? Wow, that's the bottom of the pile right there

Because beat matching, the absolute key to proper mixing and DJ technique doesn't require a sense of rythem.

Doesn't. I hear it requires a sense of rhythm though. Did I manage to whoosh you with the "drummers are stupid" thing? It's a joke, turntable-boy, lighten up.

[Jerseyprophet]

"Put the gun away stubs, put the gun awayyy stubs" haha. Biodome if anyone got it.



Obev, ever considered adding a turntablist to the line up? Not talkin about me, though I'm pretty sick, I just mean in general. Bands overlook DJ's in metal bands. I think people aren't quite sure what they do. Sampling, looping and scratching are actually helpful - but too much of a scratch pervert will end up in a Limp Bizkit.

Here, watch this. This is DJ Starscream (aka Sid Wilson, turntablist of Slipknot...unmasked! Ohnoes!) tearing it up. Check it out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2DFkEn_90EY

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_oG0PeDOEjw&feature=related - applied to a band

Its not as easy as he makes it look, not by a long shot.



But of course, no matter what our instruments are or what style of music we enjoy to play, to this day I've never been more impressed or blown away by the raw talent of one man.

Victor Wooten, Bass Player. He does two seperate riffs here, in a fucking amazing bass solo. One on the low end, one on the octaves. Im not a bass player, so bare with me in my description.

JUST WATCH IT.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CR6t47pV8Qc

[Obev]

I've considered loops and samples, yes; a lot of the stuff I listen to is cheesy 1970s prog rock, so includes some pioneering tape loop and sampling work. With that prog rock bias, I've always felt it was either something to be done by the keyboard player (in their Jean Michel Jarre-style huge keyboard enclosure with at least 6 different sets of synthesizers, 3 cowbells and enough leads to stretch all the way to the bar. Or the moon. Or the dark side of it. Whatever.). What bands I've seen that included a guy whose only role was turntabling... well, they sucked pretty bad.

I suppose it's a rock and metal bias that dictates that turntables are a "novelty" or a "gimmick", and that's why for at least 90% of the songs the turntable guy is either doing nothing or singing backup vocals. When you do get to hear them, it seems to be clichéd "wicky wicky wicky" noises which really should have died out somewhere in the mid-1990s. Listening to that Sid Wilson solo piece, it's obvious that you can fill three minutes with compelling noise from the thing, so it boggles the mind why even in Slipknot itself, he's stuck headbanging and nothing else for minutes at a time.

Actually, now you've got me thinking. Three-piece. Bass, drums, turntable. Fuck them guitar players and their pretentiousness. It likely won't be "metal" at the end of it, but it would be interesting nonetheless. Now, how do I transcribe Miles Davis for 10" vinyl...

And yeah, Wooten's stupid good. Slap-harmonic-funk rendition of "Amazing Grace" is pretty phenominal.

[Dolmen]

While turntables on their own are interesting (not my thing at all, but it has some merit), I've found all too often that it really ruins a lot of bands. Primus went god awful when they came across turntables... Turntables just don't work in metal, it works in hard rock, I guess. By hard rock I mean anything on the radio that people call metal. It's just rock.

Vic Wooten is awesome, by the way.

[Jerseyprophet]

Well theres more to a turntablist than scratching. As we mentioned, looping. I messed around with a band recently called Abstiscey and they wanted me to try out DJ'ing with it.

I used several ambient, deeeep bass loops and did manipulated them using the turntable, but it wasn't the annoying scratch we've been talking about. It was more like....adding a second bass player and the occasional NIN style sound effect.

Scratching has it's place, and if done right and in moderation can add something interesting to the overall effect of a song.

[Dolmen]

Well theres more to a turntablist than scratching. As we mentioned, looping. I messed around with a band recently called Abstiscey and they wanted me to try out DJ'ing with it.

I used several ambient, deeeep bass loops and did manipulated them using the turntable, but it wasn't the annoying scratch we've been talking about. It was more like....adding a second bass player and the occasional NIN style sound effect.

Scratching has it's place, and if done right and in moderation can add something interesting to the overall effect of a song.

Ok, now that is something that might come out interesting. Normally when you think of a DJ in a band, it's instantly associated with something scratch crazy.

[Kaliden]

Though I'll probably get lynched for the reference, but Mr. Hahn from Linkin Park makes turntables work well with rock. Uses scratches in Moderation, and adds samples enough to further the sound without taking too much attention.

He also uses those (I'm not sure what they're really called) Midi synth pad things, and even put a bunch of piano samples on one and plays piano from that.