Random Item Creation Fun.

[orson]

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...i88/ADASAM.jpg

You forgot to put like +20 stp on it while you're at it.


Taking a guess at final stage of Conqueror

Conqueror
Damage: 97 Delay: 504 Accuracy: +10
"Subjugation" (new WS hopefully 4 hit crit based, lol, ya right)
Additional effect: Impairs evasion
Lv. 75 WAR

Subjugation causes a strong intimidation effect on the monster similar to killer traits for a short time 20-60 seconds based on TP.
The new weapons will most likely not have a hidden x2 damage on random but enhance certain things for the job War would get enhanced double attack (5%,) and +10 att, -15% phys damage (more likely +15 defense but hoping that SE will fix def/vit formulas some day.)

[Starr]

Axe
Lv. 75 BST

WS causes a strong intimidation effect on the monster similar to killer traits for a short time 20-60 seconds based on TP.

[orson]

Axe
Lv. 75 BST

WS causes a strong intimidation effect on the monster similar to killer traits for a short time 20-60 seconds based on TP.

As much as that would some what make sense killer effects are hardly limited to Bst. I was just thinking about sticking to the theme of Conqueror making a mob not do anything would make sense to me. Could be a paralyze effect but Wars don't really do sneaky mage debuffs. A chance to Terror for a short time would be awesome too and maybe make more sense for War.

Overall what I'd like to see is have Conqueror being a enhancement to War's tanking ability.

[Therin]

Axe
Lv. 75 BST

WS causes a strong intimidation effect on the monster similar to killer traits for a short time 20-60 seconds based on TP.

As much as that would some what make sense killer effects are hardly limited to Bst. I was just thinking about sticking to the theme of Conqueror making a mob not do anything would make sense to me. Could be a paralyze effect but Wars don't really do sneaky mage debuffs. A chance to Terror for a short time would be awesome too and maybe make more sense for War.

Overall what I'd like to see is have Conqueror being a enhancement to War's tanking ability.

So you want a Bravura -1?

Seriously. Compare that to the Bravura stats, and then look at this:

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Metatron_Torment

[Karbuncle]

In all fairness they're upgrading Old Relics... however.
Doesnt mean Conquerer isnt a liiitle Bit overpowered, But to be honost, The only things RoTZ Relics have going for them is the DoT...

Maybe they'll upgrade old Relics in a fashion like so?

Relic Weapon
DMG? Delay??
Stat Enhancements (STR/DEX/ETC)
Specefic Upgrade to Jobs that can equip weapon
Accuracy and Attack Enhancements (like the Accuracy+20/attack+20, only maybe Both?)
The Added Effect/etc
"Weaponskill Name"

Im hoping the overhaul makes Relic weapons more then just High DoT. (Although, the 3x DMG Proc Is Absolutely Amazing)
Also: Relic Weaponskills mostly suck.

About the Flamming of Fictional Weapons... Ha-Ha, No.
This isnt "Insult their Idea for your enjoyment" Thread. nor the "I have no Imagination So i take it out on others" thread.
its the "Random Item Creation Fun" Thread. These weapons will seriously never be added to the game, its all about random enjoyment... so people enjoy using their creative musle, regardless of how Unrealistic it is. So please, Im asking you, one person with IQ above 150 to the other, Please Dont flame Fictional Weapons, or point out how broken they are... its rather pointless, seeing as how if they REALLY are broken, They'll never be added to the game.

(Not like any of these weapons or items will ever see any light outside of this thread anyway, Right people?)

But Really, take your Angry ass to Spam forum if you need to rant about how Broken Fictional items are

[Daimen-G]

I imagine the Conqueror being more like

D: 99 (since Bravura will be bumped up to 103 or something) DLY:487
Double Attack +5%
Additional Effect: Terror (5-30% proc depending on level of mob, only lasts for a moment on anything high-level)
"Dominion Break"

Dominion Break would reduce a monster's Attack, Accuracy, Evasion, Defense, Attack Speed, and Casting Speed by 10% each. It would be 1.80x damage with a 40% STR and 40% VIT mod, and more TP would increase the duration of the debuffs. The speed penalties would stack with Slow and Elegy.

[orson]

Axe
Lv. 75 BST

WS causes a strong intimidation effect on the monster similar to killer traits for a short time 20-60 seconds based on TP.

As much as that would some what make sense killer effects are hardly limited to Bst. I was just thinking about sticking to the theme of Conqueror making a mob not do anything would make sense to me. Could be a paralyze effect but Wars don't really do sneaky mage debuffs. A chance to Terror for a short time would be awesome too and maybe make more sense for War.

Overall what I'd like to see is have Conqueror being a enhancement to War's tanking ability.

So you want a Bravura -1?

Seriously. Compare that to the Bravura stats, and then look at this:

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Metatron_Torment

Um ya I think it will be similar to Bravura. Personally I don't think these relics are going to be nearly as hard to get as regular relics so I don't see them being that overpowered really. As for the whole theory that the dynamis relics will be upgraded themselves I'm almost positive they only meant they were improving the WSs on the weapons nothing else.

[Max™]

I don't want Conqueror to have sub 504 Delay, I like my /Sam+Rajas/Chiv+2 hit RR=6 hit build, thank you.

[orson]

I don't want Conqueror to have sub 504 Delay, I like my /Sam+Rajas/Chiv+2 hit RR=6 hit build, thank you.

Ya I wouldn't care much if it was lower delay I'd just use Carbo+1 or Arrabiatto(sp?) on special occasions. I also don't use Chiv chain because I have Fort. Torque.

[Therin]

I would be very, very sad if these relics were "similar" to the previous relics. If I wanted a Bravura, I'll upgrade a Bravura - Conquerer should be something entirely different.

[orson]

How different could they be really though? It'd be cool if they jailer weaponesque style except good but I'd say it's unlikely.

[Grieverao]

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...Lolchopper.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2.../GrievHelm.jpg

Couple of things I tossed together a while back

[Max™]

I don't want Conqueror to have sub 504 Delay, I like my /Sam+Rajas/Chiv+2 hit RR=6 hit build, thank you.

Ya I wouldn't care much if it was lower delay I'd just use Carbo+1 or Arrabiatto(sp?) on special occasions. I also don't use Chiv chain because I have Fort. Torque.

I meant Rajas+Brutal, since I WS in Snow now, was a little sleepy.

[Therin]

Some new stuff I think they should add for the update (consolidated from previous posts and some new stuff):

First, to finish off ToAU with a bang and some much needed updates to grips:

Hydra Grip (Hydra Fang, Hydra Scale x2, Mandrel)
All Races
Accuracy +7 Store TP +5
Additional effect: Poison
Water Resist +7
Lv. 72 All Jobs

Illuyankas Grip (Hydra Fang, Hydra Scale x2 HQ, Mandrel)
All Races
Accuracy +8 Store TP +6
Additional effect: Poison
Water Resist +9
Lv. 72 All Jobs

Cerberus Grip (Cerberus Hide, Cerberus Claw x2, Mandrel)
All Races
Attack +7 Enmity +2
Triple Attack +2%
Fire Resist +7
Lv. 72 All Jobs

Gere's Grip (Cerberus Hide, Cerberus Claw x2 HQ, Mandrel)
All Races
Attack +8 Enmity +3
Triple Attack +3%
Fire Resist +9
Lv. 72 All Jobs

Khimaira Grip (Khimaira Tail, Khimaira Mane x2, Mandrel)
All Races
STR +4 DEX +4
Critical Hit Rate +3%
Lightning Resist +7
Lv. 72 All Jobs

Nemean Grip (Khimaira Tail, Khimaira Mane x2 HQ, Mandrel)
All Races
STR +5 DEX +5
Critical Hit Rate +4%
Lightning Resist +9
Lv. 72 All Jobs

Job-specific Grip quests for WoTG areas (requires level 70 of the job to accept the quest, works like AF, basically. Run an errand, go back to NPC, go do BCNM fight):

Drachen Grip
All Races
Haste +2% Wyvern HP +35
Lv. 70 DRG

Fighter's Grip
All Races
STR +2 VIT +2
Double Attack +3%
Lv. 70 WAR

Myochin Grip
All Races
Accuracy +3 Attack +5
Store TP +5
Lv. 70 SAM

Chaos Grip
All Races
STR +2 INT +2
Attack +12
Lv. 70 DRK

Healer's Grip
All Races
MP +15 MND +3
Cure Potency +3%
Lv. 70 WHM

Wizard's Grip
All Races
MP +15 INT +3
Elemental Magic Skill +5
Lv. 70 BLM

Warlock's Grip
All Races
HP +15 MP +15
Enfeebling Magic Skill +5
Lv. 70 RDM

Evoker's Grip
All Races
MP +20 
Avatar Perpetuation Cost -1
Lv. 70 SMN

Scholar's Grip
All Races
INT +3 MND +3
Conserve MP +3
Lv. 70 SCH

Campaign-related armor (these sets would consist of 2 pieces and when pair with the other level 68 Campaign armor, would increase overall set bonus):

Iron Ram Haubert
[Body] All Races
DEF: 57 HP+50 Enmity+8  
"Magic Def. Bonus"+6
Adds "Regen" Effect
Set: Increases all elemental resistances
Lv. 68 WAR/PLD/DRK

Iron Ram Breeches
[Legs] All Races
DEF: 48 HP+40 Enmity+6
"Magic Def. Bonus"+4
Set: Increases all elemental resistances
Lv. 68 WAR/PLD/DRK

Cobra Unit Robe
[Body] All Races
DEF: 42 HP+35 MP+35
"Magic Atk. Bonus"+4
"Conserve MP"+6
Adds "Refresh" Effect
Set: Increases Magic Accuracy
Lv. 68 WHM/BLM/RDM/BRD/SMN/BLU/PUP/SCH

Cobra Unit Trousers
[Legs] All Races
DEF: 34 HP+25 MP+25
"Magic Atk. Bonus"+3
"Conserve MP"+4
Set: Increases Magic Accuracy
Lv. 68 WHM/BLM/RDM/BRD/SMN/BLU/PUP/SCH

Cobra Unit Harness
[Body] All Races
DEF: 49 Accuracy+9
"Store TP"+6
Enmity-7
Haste+2%
Set: Enhances "Counter" Effect
Lv. 68 MNK/THF/RNG/BLU/COR/PUP/DNC

Cobra Unit Subligar
[Legs] All Races
DEF: 36 Accuracy+6
"Store TP"+4
Enmity-5
Set: Enhances "Counter" Effect
Lv. 68 MNK/THF/RNG/BLU/COR/PUP/DNC

Fourth Division Breastplate
[Body] All Races
DEF: 53 STR+7 Evasion+9
Subtle Blow+10
"Double Attack"+3%
Set: Increases Attack
Lv. 68 WAR/PLD/DRK/BST/SAM/NIN/DRG

Fourth Division Cuisses
[Legs] All Races
DEF: 42 STR+5 Evasion +6
Subtle Blow+8
Set: Increases Attack
Lv. 68 WAR/PLD/DRK/BST/SAM/NIN/DRG

Now for some Campaign-related grips:

Iron Ram Grip
All Races
HP +10 Enmity +3
Magic Defense Bonus +2
Lv. 68 WAR/PLD/DRK

Cobra Unit Grip
All Races
HP +10 MP +10 
Magic Attack Bonus +2
Conserve MP +3
Lv. 68 WHM/BLM/RDM/BRD/SMN/BLU/PUP/SCH

Fourth Division Grip
STR +2 Evasion +4
Subtle Blow +3
Lv. 68 WAR/PLD/DRK/BST/SAM/NIN/DRG

[SeraphusRagnarok]

Yeah that Drachen Grip would be nice because our current max haste for equipment is 24%


W.Turban(5)
Dusk Gloves+1(4)
Blitz Ring(1)
Speed Belt(6)
Wyrm Mail+1 (2)
Homam Cosciales(3)
Homam Gamberies(3)

Drachen Grip(2)

Haste:26% truncated:25%