Statement of fact re: RDM Maat

[Tricen]

They made it so Maat couldn't cast like ThunderIII or something, I forget. I went 1/11 on my maat fight. Why? If you saw my gear you would lol pretty hard. Only things really needed is HQ Dark staff and wind staff, and spider/enfeeb torque. Then you can mix and match. He shouldn't be hard at all anymore now though... ._.

[Isiolia]

Back in the day there was also a chunk less MP gear to use then. ToAU particularly added a number of readily available MP options, which help in that fight.

[Rocl]

I don't care if I lost to Maat a few times, solo-ing Ruby Quadavs for testimonies got me mad money, yo.

How much money did you make fighting Maat?

[Howard Roark]

That's not what I said, and if it came across that way then I said it wrong. My point is that winning or losing should be about one thing: luck. A lot of people, however, lose when they should have won, and then blame it on "luck" when that's not why they got their asses kicked. I.E. didn't cap their skills and blamed a resisted sleep on luck.

is it me or should one of those "should"s be a "shouldn't"

and shihei stop being the new nazrious

[Yuri-G]

Basically I'd agree. In some circles it's built up to be incredibly hard, but primarily it's just the randomness that can happen. It'd be possible to fail that much with a good strat, but I'd agree, rather unlikely, since at some point it should occur to you to modify something in your approach.

It's more the attitude present in your first post, and what one tends to see on Alla on a weekly basis. Though you have now, most aren't quick to acknowledge when things simply went their way where they didn't for someone else.

Yeah, I had a shitty morning and took it out on the OP. At least you see where I'm coming from now. Things definitely went my way, I screenshotted the whole thing and I could easily point out multiple points at which it could have gone horribly wrong (I still can't believe I got a sleep in through blink).

[Howard Roark]

Basically I'd agree. In some circles it's built up to be incredibly hard, but primarily it's just the randomness that can happen. It'd be possible to fail that much with a good strat, but I'd agree, rather unlikely, since at some point it should occur to you to modify something in your approach.

It's more the attitude present in your first post, and what one tends to see on Alla on a weekly basis. Though you have now, most aren't quick to acknowledge when things simply went their way where they didn't for someone else.

Yeah, I had a shitty morning and took it out on the OP. At least you see where I'm coming from now. Things definitely went my way, I screenshotted the whole thing and I could easily point out multiple points at which it could have gone horribly wrong (I still can't believe I got a sleep in through blink).

you are the OP

[Yuri-G]

[quote=Howard Roark]

Basically I'd agree. In some circles it's built up to be incredibly hard, but primarily it's just the randomness that can happen. It'd be possible to fail that much with a good strat, but I'd agree, rather unlikely, since at some point it should occur to you to modify something in your approach.

It's more the attitude present in your first post, and what one tends to see on Alla on a weekly basis. Though you have now, most aren't quick to acknowledge when things simply went their way where they didn't for someone else.

Yeah, I had a shitty morning and took it out on the OP. At least you see where I'm coming from now. Things definitely went my way, I screenshotted the whole thing and I could easily point out multiple points at which it could have gone horribly wrong (I still can't believe I got a sleep in through blink).

you are the OP[/quote:28pw53wq]
OP
"Original Post" or "Original Poster"
- from Wikipedia

Which meaning do you think I was using?

[Shuemue]

[quote=Yuri-G][quote="Howard Roark":3epkw44y]

Basically I'd agree. In some circles it's built up to be incredibly hard, but primarily it's just the randomness that can happen. It'd be possible to fail that much with a good strat, but I'd agree, rather unlikely, since at some point it should occur to you to modify something in your approach.

It's more the attitude present in your first post, and what one tends to see on Alla on a weekly basis. Though you have now, most aren't quick to acknowledge when things simply went their way where they didn't for someone else.

Yeah, I had a shitty morning and took it out on the OP. At least you see where I'm coming from now. Things definitely went my way, I screenshotted the whole thing and I could easily point out multiple points at which it could have gone horribly wrong (I still can't believe I got a sleep in through blink).

you are the OP[/quote:3epkw44y]
OP
"Original Post" or "Original Poster"
- from Wikipedia

Which meaning do you think I was using?[/quote:3epkw44y]
You are the OP because you made the OP.

[Leeto]

rdm was my second 75 job after whm, did maat at 67 for kicks. NQ water staff (water 3 being highest nuke at 67), full AF (this was like 2-3 years ago), rest of the gear was decent I guess. 1/1 in 1:48, pretty sure I didn't even take damage <_>

[Rocl]

rdm was my second 75 job after whm, did maat at 67 for kicks. NQ water staff (water 3 being highest nuke at 67), full AF (this was like 2-3 years ago), rest of the gear was decent I guess. 1/1 in 1:48, pretty sure I didn't even take damage <_>

Took me 2 minutes to figure out what you meant by 1:48.

[Howard Roark]

[quote=Yuri-G][quote="Howard Roark":22rlne0y]

Basically I'd agree. In some circles it's built up to be incredibly hard, but primarily it's just the randomness that can happen. It'd be possible to fail that much with a good strat, but I'd agree, rather unlikely, since at some point it should occur to you to modify something in your approach.

It's more the attitude present in your first post, and what one tends to see on Alla on a weekly basis. Though you have now, most aren't quick to acknowledge when things simply went their way where they didn't for someone else.

Yeah, I had a shitty morning and took it out on the OP. At least you see where I'm coming from now. Things definitely went my way, I screenshotted the whole thing and I could easily point out multiple points at which it could have gone horribly wrong (I still can't believe I got a sleep in through blink).

you are the OP[/quote:22rlne0y]
OP
"Original Post" or "Original Poster"
- from Wikipedia

Which meaning do you think I was using?[/quote:22rlne0y]

if u were using Original Post, you should have said "in" not "on"

[Valisk]

And the wheels on the grammar bus go round and round. Kids say hello to the bus driver. HI ROARK!!!

[nekura]

I don't care if I lost to Maat a few times, solo-ing Ruby Quadavs for testimonies got me mad money, yo.

I hate Ruby Quadav. ;; I had an easier time fighting Maat than I did him because he would resist the hell out of my nukes (lolelv).

[Rainewaters]

I kept d/cing during mine...eventually gave up and lvled whm. During that time, I got cable. Went after him on rdm after getting used to my new connection and beat him 2nd try with that.

[Epical]

Because this thread is at least partially serious, and because a bit of old school lolfactor is always nice, I've uploaded my Maat Fight. It's from back in Sept 2004, so there's no crazy gear or anything. I believe everything is NQ and very, very basic, almost to the point of embarassment, but hey, no one's first job was spectacular. It's more for the strategy than anything. It was my first and only try at a Maat fight, and I level 69 to boot.

Also, don't mind the cheesy comments at the end... not really sure why I put them there.

Ok go.

[Fadian]

Look there isn't that much of a random factor for maat. here is how I beat him. i'm 4/6 for him. 1/3 for first time.

As soon as you enter. run up to him and sleep him. Dispel him, buff yourself. dispel him again. then do the nuke/sleep method on him. never silence him, paralyze helps. for the only debuff. when he chainspells. sleep him and wait out 1 min. then continue. It's that simple really. that is how I've beaten him several times. bring some meds. vile and vile+1 in case of emergency. but shouldn't need it.

If you wait and buff as soon as you enter the battle you are giving him the chance to buff as well. Shell and blink for the most part. if he get those up. your sleep might not land then your in trouble.

[wintersquall]

IT'S LUCK.


if you have all the correct gear, and hit all the correct buttons at the correct times, you can still lose. unlike a majority of things in gaming.

some like the OP go 1/1 or 1/3 and go AMAGADWTFMAATAINTHARDCUZIIZ1337. these people don't get it.

some get unlucky, and go 1/5, 1/6 or even more using the EXACT same strategy with equal gear and capped skills. then finally they beat him, and these people do get it.

pretty simple? yes.


edit: i fought him as first-job RDM in late 2004, he wasn't nerfed then and i haven't fought him since so i can't speak to that.

[[Cookies]]

It took me 7 tries to beat maat as BRD, yes, my gear was crap, I didn't really feel like spending 500k for 1 fight. I used a pretty decent strategy, double minne, 2x spirits within to start, etc. Unfortunately, 6 of those 7 times, I died to stupid things like, a critical hit for 200 damage after dispelling my minne (had milk up too -.-) then hitting me for 500 damage with a ws (loltaru;. In the end I got LUCKY, his Dragon Kick missed, which would have most likely killed me. :rocl:

[Lexa]

Look there isn't that much of a random factor for maat. here is how I beat him. i'm 4/6 for him. 1/3 for first time.

As soon as you enter. run up to him and sleep him. Dispel him, buff yourself. dispel him again. then do the nuke/sleep method on him. never silence him, paralyze helps. for the only debuff. when he chainspells. sleep him and wait out 1 min. then continue. It's that simple really. that is how I've beaten him several times. bring some meds. vile and vile+1 in case of emergency. but shouldn't need it.

If you wait and buff as soon as you enter the battle you are giving him the chance to buff as well. Shell and blink for the most part. if he get those up. your sleep might not land then your in trouble.

And then you get a freak resist on your sleep despite having good gear, correct food, capped skills and going in on a good day, and thank you for playing, better luck next time.

I beat him on PLD, and he Shoulder Tackled me. I thought it was really bad at the time, until someone told me how much an Asuran would have done to me.

[Leeto]

Look there isn't that much of a random factor for maat. here is how I beat him. i'm 4/6 for him. 1/3 for first time.

As soon as you enter. run up to him and sleep him. Dispel him, buff yourself. dispel him again. then do the nuke/sleep method on him. never silence him, paralyze helps. for the only debuff. when he chainspells. sleep him and wait out 1 min. then continue. It's that simple really. that is how I've beaten him several times. bring some meds. vile and vile+1 in case of emergency. but shouldn't need it.

If you wait and buff as soon as you enter the battle you are giving him the chance to buff as well. Shell and blink for the most part. if he get those up. your sleep might not land then your in trouble.

And then you get a freak resist on your sleep despite having good gear, correct food, capped skills and going in on a good day, and thank you for playing, better luck next time.

I beat him on PLD, and he Shoulder Tackled me. I thought it was really bad at the time, until someone told me how much an Asuran would have done to me.

You get a freak resist on your sleep and then...you cast another sleep spell. Or gravity, or bind...