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  1. #21
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    Re: silver sea remnants boss

    He always do it every 3 min post-75%, at least for us when we first started doing him. Now he always charm at 75, 50 and 25%, no matter how fast we down him. Can get him from 75% to 50% in under 1 min, and he'll always use it soon after the next interval.

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    Re: silver sea remnants boss

    Brainjack is a TP move. During BJ mode, he has an insane amount of regain, and he will use TP very often. If you are out of BJ range, he will try discharge or inertia stream.

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    Re: silver sea remnants boss

    Quote Originally Posted by Garret
    Long enough that the person who was charmed first had become uncharmed and I had kited around the room a couple times after they became uncharmed.
    If you get charmed while you are kiting, which is very likely when you have to turn and it does brainjack, you will lose another 90sec cause the mages will have to kite tilll you become uncharmed.

    So, wouldn't it be better to have the melees swap to a weak weapon and let LAC charm them all so they can be uncharm at the same time so you don't end up kiting for 180sec or more. This is assuming that each brainjack always last 90sec.

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    Re: silver sea remnants boss

    Quote Originally Posted by Chupunpupun
    Quote Originally Posted by Garret
    Long enough that the person who was charmed first had become uncharmed and I had kited around the room a couple times after they became uncharmed.
    If you get charmed while you are kiting, which is very likely when you have to turn and it does brainjack, you will lose another 90sec cause the mages will have to kite tilll you become uncharmed.

    So, wouldn't it be better to have the melees swap to a weak weapon and let LAC charm them all so they can be uncharm at the same time so you don't end up kiting for 180sec or more. This is assuming that each brainjack always last 90sec.
    We always just let the two tanks get charmed, but looking at it from the other side for a minute. So long as he's swapped to a weak weapon while kiting it should be fine. A charmed person assists whoever was LAC's target at the moment they were charmed, and holds the target unless that person dies or are themselves charmed, at which point they hold the new target until that person dies or is charmed, etc. What that means is that if tank B is kiting LAC and tank A is charmed, then the best case scenario is that brainjack phase ends without tank B having been charmed at all, while in the worst case scenario you describe, tank B is charmed at the end of brainjack phase just as tank A uncharms, and tank A solo tanks LAC for a minute or so while tank B whiffs at a mage with a signet staff, which shouldn't be all that terrible and probably worth the risk if B is a decent kiter in the first place.

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    Re: silver sea remnants boss

    Quote Originally Posted by Chupunpupun
    So, wouldn't it be better to have the melees swap to a weak weapon and let LAC charm them all so they can be uncharm at the same time so you don't end up kiting for 180sec or more. This is assuming that each brainjack always last 90sec.
    The charm duration is set no matter how long into the phase you get jacked. The only way everyone charmed could uncharm at once is if you kill LAC while people are charmed - otherwise it will always wear off in the order they were charmed, one by one.

    It's best to have your melee kite it so that it gets less of a chance to go after the mages, too. If brainjack mode is 90 secs, and it takes him, say, 45 secs to catch one of your melee, then that's 45 less seconds that your mages have to run. Getting all your melee jacked is probably more dangerous than just conceding that one or two will right off the bat and will uncharm around when brainjack phase is over. As long as the uncharmed people don't re-establish hate before brainjack mode is over (getting themselves jacked again), it's not a big deal at all.

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    Re: silver sea remnants boss

    If people arent retarded and know how to kite, I can't imagine anyone having trouble. Just keep regen 3 on tank, and run away when it starts to charm. Changing weapon help in case someone get cornered, but it shouldnt cause a wipe.

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    Re: silver sea remnants boss

    I've actually ran and kited LAC during his full Brainjack mode and nobody ever got charmed, he used a TP move and turned but the delay between TP Move>BJ was long enough that I got out of range. I waited a good while until I noticed he stopped spamming TP moves and turned around. Was only one time but he didn't charm a single person. Personally, I think it's much easier for your melees to try to kite him for the duration, rather then all get charmed. LAC is very easy to kite, just wish the other people in my group would turn and run faster after I get charmed. (think I get farther away when even when I'm the first then they do after)

    Usually I'm the first to get charmed but on the rare occasion someone pulls hate just before it's beyond easy to kite him and BJ mode isn't over the second the first person come uncharmed, so keep kiting for a good 30s more or so. It's also possible to resist BJ, I haven't full resisted but I have had some 10s(or extremely short at least) charm periods and such, so partial resists.

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    Re: silver sea remnants boss

    I know people lol @ pld in salvage, but we use one for LAC 'cause it seems to make the fight much easier for us, and fealty makes you immune to charm for the duration as well. Not to mention he's even easier to kite with w. legs than without.

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    Re: silver sea remnants boss

    Quote Originally Posted by Chupunpupun
    Quote Originally Posted by Garret
    Long enough that the person who was charmed first had become uncharmed and I had kited around the room a couple times after they became uncharmed.
    If you get charmed while you are kiting, which is very likely when you have to turn and it does brainjack, you will lose another 90sec cause the mages will have to kite tilll you become uncharmed.

    So, wouldn't it be better to have the melees swap to a weak weapon and let LAC charm them all so they can be uncharm at the same time so you don't end up kiting for 180sec or more. This is assuming that each brainjack always last 90sec.
    This is true, and is what happened. My point was really more to how long does the Brainjack phase itself last? I was able to kite it, without getting hit by Brainjack as one of the tanks long enough that charm had worn off the other tank and for additional time, and figured that the charming phase in general should have been longer over, yet when I replanted myself it charmed right away, but then after charming me it no longer charmed anyone at all. It seemed really strange in terms of the timing, but without having stopwatched the period I kited it for it's certainly possible I just got tagged with one at the very end of the phase if it's for a long period of time.

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    Re: silver sea remnants boss

    For us it usually just enters BJ mode 3 times, usually swap weapons to avoid problems just in case, kite, sometimes do get a wrong turn and charm but never been much of a problem, after BJ is over, use hundred fist try to take it down then again 2nd hundred fist after the next BJ session and then just zerk w/e HP left he has at this point. Never had any real troubles before.

    Also, yeah most of the time it does seem to start at 75, maybe sometimes around 70.

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    Re: silver sea remnants boss

    Quote Originally Posted by Drex
    I know people lol @ pld in salvage, but we use one for LAC 'cause it seems to make the fight much easier for us, and fealty makes you immune to charm for the duration as well. Not to mention he's even easier to kite with w. legs than without.
    That's what my group does, we fealty through one session, shadowbind through another and kite the 3rd.

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