Dorp VIII: We freelot what you've needed for months.

[BerenTebogo]

Fuck your Gote Sath, im coming up on 0/65.

0/65 on Hikazu Gote? o_O
To contribute something to the title of this thread: We are 8/30ish on Hikazu Gote and even tossed a pair already, cause no one wanted or everyone had. Needs more Skadi...

This was our first pair, out of a lot, rotting skadi, enlil's, and deimos. Need more machas / hikazu

[Falisa]

I submit to you sir, KV after camping for 7 hours straight -

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/ ... 58/KV1.png

Because stalking another ls for ToD and camping like this -

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/2028 ... 219uy7.png
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6185 ... 154fm1.png

Must have been a lot of pain.

Watching you guys trying to kite KV with 18 ppl, is pain...and a good amount of laughs.

What? Pxtzle is camping something? GOGOGO

[Caerloc]

If you give that KC DRK dbl march, dbl mad, and haste, good luck keeping him alive without BW on... The way I am saying you don't need this immense massive healing onry squad like you would for a KC DRK with all his buffs. That's my point.

If I recall we tried that once on Tia with no BW up....drk swings, cure bombs start, drk hits floor.. in a span of 5 seconds maybe?!?!

Oh i'm sorry, i must have missed the memo that stated that JoL and Tia was the same mob. I guess there isn't a vast difference between a mob that melees and uses AoE TP-moves and a mob that.... doesn't?

Um no sweet pea there isn't, aoe damage from Tia's wing, breath and firaga is virtually nil if you have mages that know what stoneskin is, a stunner, fire builds on your tanks, and a whm that has correct merits and is not emptying their mp pool on a kc dark as fast as they can get it. And I suppose you are right JoL just sits up there and looks all floaty and never ever uses any of the following melee attacks and aoe spells/tp moves that it has: Hundred Fists (multiple times); plus high damage melee hits (can crit hit tanks for over 1200HP); Casts spells depending on it's current elemental base, tier III area BLM spells (Thundaga III, Blizzaga III, etc.); Primal Drill, Concussive Oscillation, Vitriolic Barrage, and Asthenic Fog (not gonna bother with the summons). Not to mention I'm sure it's tons of fun for the tanks when one of them gets charmed.

But last I checked the point you were attempting to make is that kc darks only using SE are super efficient on a mob with higher defense and hp despite having to pull people off of other duties, feeding it mass amounts of tp, and spiking hate repeatedly so that your tanks have to work too hard to maintain cap.

Efficient: being effective without wasting time or effort or expense, or in ffxi terms no xp loss, hate loss, or waste of resources such as mp or damage.

Not really wanting to start a flame or anything, but are you dumb or just havent bothered following the discussion at all? Take a reading comprehension class and have a do-over. Did i say SE KC drks on tiamat was a good idea, or did i say that you cant compare using a SE kc drk on Tiamat with using it on Jol? And im well aware of how Tiamat works, having tanked and killed him for years. Thanks tho.

And that is correct, he doesnt use the following melee and tp moves, unless 1 of 2 things, or both.

1: Your tanks are dumb and tanks him in melee range.

2: Your tanks sucks and your melees pulls hate and gets meleed and ws'ed.

And while he does indeed casts those spells are they ever gonna hit the melee?

So, to recap the discussion so far, the one you failed miserably to follow. I did not think it was a good idea to use SE KC drks on tia. I didnt think you should compare fighting tia with JoL. Your SE drks should be pretty safe SE Krakening JoL. No, we dont kraken drk jol despite having 5 or 6 kraken drks in the ls, because we always do Jol with 18 and you need support for kraken drks.


Edit: And no, never in a billion JoL's have i seen him use any 2hour but Astral flow.

[Kobus]

tiamat is a girl

[Mulligan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...an2858/KV3.png

im sorry i made you wait there for nothing genji, but everyone left and we claimed with just 4 people if that makes you feel any better.

[Dammerung]

Enough bitching about JoL and DRK.

More bitching about why Dfeet is in Odin's lootpool. 9/10 (fuck Behe) and 3 reruns for Odin #2.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...422_175249.png

[savageboy]

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...r/wowsandy.jpg

[GenjiUnicorn]

im sorry i made you wait there for nothing genji, but everyone left and we claimed with just 4 people if that makes you feel any better.

Which waiting are you talking about? The few mins I spent looking at my pc while I was getting head shots in cod4 today waiting for a NM I don't need? Or the 30+ mins that you guys kited, with 30 ppl in zone, because I said that the regen of KV at night is strong enough to make you wipe(which your LS believed)?

You tell me.


P.S. I've been camping/kiting KV for 2 weeks, getting a lot of hats, so waiting around for such a small time, is no big deal.

[Rocl]

EINHERJAR DROP RATE UPPED?







http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y25...422_220855.png

[Kobus]

cleared our first Tier2 tonite, got A.Feeted


gogo!

[Therin]

Your mithra .dats are much more of an eyesore than the D.Feet.

[Weeks]

Shorthanded Xarcabard:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...422_203802.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...422_215121.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...422_220828.jpg

Surcoat is the first I've ever seen drop, went to LS leader Talis.

[Donjarfi]

LSs first bubu last night:

Wyrm Belt, Sorc. Belt, Abyss Capex2
DRG-1, WHM-1, RNG-1, BST-1 (fail -1!)

[Neosutra]

Fuck your Gote Sath, im coming up on 0/65.

0/65 on Hikazu Gote? o_O
To contribute something to the title of this thread: We are 8/30ish on Hikazu Gote and even tossed a pair already, cause no one wanted or everyone had. Needs more Skadi...

8 for fucking 30?

Ok seriously..

I take 6-7 people max, TH 4 each time, kill both 5th and 6th floor madame and boss. And get shit luck.

HOW THE FUCK, do you get 8/30 Gotes.

Seriously. Something is the fuck up.

[Suiram]

Are you porting north on 3rd floor?

[Lordwafik]

Frogs are random sirisuly. We went 0/a billion on both frogs, then my group went 1billion / 1 billion on every 5f frog, yet we still have a 0% drop rate on 6f madame.

[Davricle]

Wheeeeee

http://darklegionsvalefor.com/forum2.../1_bahamut.png

Edit: Wrong pic >.>

[Tricen]

Was it porn?

[Ramzii]

Was it porn?

lolcerb loot pool

[vanimedle]

So, to recap the discussion so far, the one you failed miserably to follow. I did not think it was a good idea to use SE KC drks on tia. I didnt think you should compare fighting tia with JoL. Your SE drks should be pretty safe SE Krakening JoL. No, we dont kraken drk jol despite having 5 or 6 kraken drks in the ls, because we always do Jol with 18 and you need support for kraken drks.

By all means dear let's recap, you popped off saying you have 5-6 (how the hell do you not know the exact number?) kc drks that you don't use on JoL but that it would be best set up; however, could only do one JoL with just SE KC Drks because of the mass amount of support it would require (point that was made by both Corona and myself that it's too much upkeep without BW, although I fail to see why you could only do one at that point if you are only using SE). You are attempting to state that SE KC drk somehow functions differently on JoL then it does on Tia, both mobs being of similar level, defense, and evasion, the straight up KC damage variance is minimal to non-existent so that doesn't factor in at all merely the hp of the drk during SE which I think we can all agree is necessary to keep as high as possible, stray hit from Tia with Mighty Strikes on is about 600+, stray hit from JoL with boost about 1600+, in all aspects the possibility of damage from aoe's during SE is about the same for each mob but the damage received greatly increases on JoL (Concussive Oscillation, for instance, 2236 damage to the drk), so with all of that taken into account SE drks are actually safer on Tia not JoL.

As for roar from Tia stripping hate, charmed SE drks will put your tanks out of commission as well and for a far longer period of time then a roar or even a terror, thus slowing your damage rate to a greater degree on JoL (not efficient). And per usual dead drks tend to greatly reduce damage over time no matter what weapon they use.

So back to your statement of why use ridill when you have kc it's better, no they aren't better they are used for different goals, they put out more damage in the same period of time great for fast food fights, but also put out more tp to the mob making it far more likely that you have to slow/stop your damage particularly if you low man JoL, not by any means saying it can't be done or shouldn't be done, rather that a consistently balanced fight that ridill's help provide, produces less anomalies and leaves you better equipped to handle them when they do come up, and if your group has the goal of running tests on AV it certainly leaves you in better shape mp wise to deal with his grumpy ass. Oh and our average time spent on the fight not much more then your best time, so put away the e-peen pump as you are clearly abusing it.