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  1. #21
    Ridill
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    I doubt they'll do forced transfers, but removing the ability to start a new account or transfer to the world will stop it from growing.

  2. #22
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    I doubt they'll do forced transfers, but removing the ability to start a new account or transfer to the world will stop it from growing.

    Honestly, if they did a 'most recent xfers/formed characters' thing, I'd be rather all for it. It'd get rid of some crap LSes that have shown up lately with questionable practices and even far more questionable skill.

  3. #23
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    I could see them doing what they did couple years back and making a new server and offering free transfer there from Odin. I am sure some LS/people will jump at the opportunity. While others will stay, scared of change and thinking all the asshats will leave and Odin will be better off.


    Hmmmm, how many times can you use "and" in a sentence before it is a run on sentence?

  4. #24
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    Quote Originally Posted by shihei
    I could see them doing what they did couple years back and making a new server and offering free transfer there from Odin. I am sure some LS/people will jump at the opportunity. While others will stay, scared of change and thinking all the asshats will leave and Odin will be better off.


    Hmmmm, how many times can you use "and" in a sentence before it is a run on sentence?

    SEE: Remora and Hades.

    I don't think a new server is going to do much.. and I highly doubt they would fund a new server at this point.

    If anything, they could say 'look, this many have to xfer off or we go arbitrary.' That way LSes can apply to leave together, etc; and then after that, move 'em by creation/transfer dates, and offer free world transfers to worlds other than crowded ones so that people can go to a server where the rest of their LS ended up or something.

    If someone is a recent transfer or character and got into a long established shell, they could appeal the transfer and have characters that remained on Odin also verify for them or something.

    It's about the best solution I can think of that is somewhat fair and isn't completely too much work, though it's still probably more work than they'd be willing to do. :/

  5. #25
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    Square has never arbitrarily moved characters and I doubt they'd start that now considering the customer service nightmare that it would cause.

  6. #26
    The Real Cookiemonster
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashira
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    I doubt they'll do forced transfers, but removing the ability to start a new account or transfer to the world will stop it from growing.

    Honestly, if they did a 'most recent xfers/formed characters' thing, I'd be rather all for it. It'd get rid of some crap LSes that have shown up lately with questionable practices and even far more questionable skill.

    No ;; we don't want them back ;;

  7. #27
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    Interestingly, they said the server average is between 15k-16k users. If we take this number to be 15.5k, and then take 32 servers, that makes the number of subscribers around 496k, right around the 500k which was announced over a year ago.

  8. #28
    Kaeko
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    Just from eyeballing how many people are on when, I actually don't think our NA population is that much bigger than other servers. It's really the EU and JP populations that are huge.

  9. #29
    Dice and rum
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashira
    If anything, they could say 'look, this many have to xfer off or we go arbitrary.' ...

    It's about the best solution I can think of that is somewhat fair and isn't completely too much work, though it's still probably more work than they'd be willing to do. :/
    They could pay folks to move. "Transfer off Odin and you'll arrive in your new home with an extra 500K gil!" or something like that. That would work for getting a lot of people who don't have close ties to their LS to leave.

  10. #30
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    Omg, there's still 500,000 registered users playing this game?!

    I was under the wrong impression that this game was dying.

    In order to prop up game subscription membership and fee to keep the game alive, I tried to do my part to help Newbies out, by soloing coffer key mobs (as DRG/RDM) and helping fellow DRGs with their AF pieces.

    Now I can go back to logging on and just staring at my moogle...

  11. #31
    THOU THOU THOU THOU THOU THOU THOU THOU
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    Quote Originally Posted by ThistleChaser
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashira
    If anything, they could say 'look, this many have to xfer off or we go arbitrary.' ...

    It's about the best solution I can think of that is somewhat fair and isn't completely too much work, though it's still probably more work than they'd be willing to do. :/
    They could pay folks to move. "Transfer off Odin and you'll arrive in your new home with an extra 500K gil!" or something like that. That would work for getting a lot of people who don't have close ties to their LS to leave.
    RMT would abuse the everloving fuck out of it.

  12. #32
    WASTE OF CURRENCY
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Blackrose
    Quote Originally Posted by ThistleChaser
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashira
    If anything, they could say 'look, this many have to xfer off or we go arbitrary.' ...

    It's about the best solution I can think of that is somewhat fair and isn't completely too much work, though it's still probably more work than they'd be willing to do. :/
    They could pay folks to move. "Transfer off Odin and you'll arrive in your new home with an extra 500K gil!" or something like that. That would work for getting a lot of people who don't have close ties to their LS to leave.
    RMT would abuse the everloving fuck out of it.
    If they closed Odin for transferring to and creating characters on...it would work fine. New RMT couldn't get any money, only the ones already on the server. And if the RMT on that server leave for that 500k, I don't see where Odin is hurting at all lol.

  13. #33
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    Am I the only one who loves how arbitrary SE's graphs are?

    For all I care it could be 1, 2, 3 going up that left side.

    EOL

  14. #34
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    Eh, well from what was just posted in the Update thread about the changes to TOS, idk if this is the part that was changed, but SE owns your shiz and can/will move your asses forcibly.
    Right?

  15. #35
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    Quote Originally Posted by shihei
    Eh, well from what was just posted in the Update thread about the changes to TOS, idk if this is the part that was changed, but SE owns your shiz and can/will move your asses forcibly.
    Right?
    Remember the GM snowman inquisitions?

    'Drop the fucking snowmen. Now.'

  16. #36
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    I was thinking this is more along the lines of "You are not Odin material but the rest of your LS is...have fun on Remora!"

    Or


    "Odin is too full, we are banning your account"


    Although they can just pull a


    "I don't like your name, banning you"+"Banning you cause I can, AND JUST DID NUQQA"

  17. #37
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    or.....

    "You have been voted off the island (Odin) ... Goodbye!" .....instant server transfer.

    *poof*

    "Welcome to Hades!" .....

    Anyways, time for me to work on my best friend and her husband to migrate to lakshmi!!!

  18. #38
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    Once poof got here people couldn't resist transferring over. No secret that Odin has been full as a strip club on customer appreciation day for some time now. Doing anything during JP time on the weekend is usually futile. Personally I'm for them transferring off anyone who uses the shout function in whitegate for social purposes, would clear out a large swath of retards at least.

  19. #39
    Sea Torques
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    I remember when Ragnarok was the biggest server with 6000-7000 users(and I was there for it) and SE took Rag out of the random world cycle thing and you could only get there through world pass.

    Looks like Odin is going down that path and might be blocked from the World Transfer Service. It's a fact that people will go to whatever server is the biggest(see Fairy 2005-2006).

    And SE fails at math. 1.7mill players but most likely 70% of that is mules.

  20. #40
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    Re: Odin World Character Population (04/14/2008)

    Quote Originally Posted by terranova
    And SE fails at math. 1.7mill players but most likely 70% of that is mules.
    1.7 million characters and half a million registered users
    Roughly 3.4 characters per account. So yeah, a little less than 70% per account are mules.

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