Parrying Skill Up Limits

[Rags]

Boxer mantle would play to much a role in avoiding attacks. As it is my nin dodges allot thus why I had to wear the -30eva gear. So I could lower it closer to the mobs lvl. 269+10 would have me proc allot more eva. I really don't expect it to just start leveling and not stop. But for as much as I tried I would expect to see some return. But as it is I seen more parry on my Bst then on my nin, something aint right.

As for Gear there is never any Darksteel subs up. Plus having the +2 from it wouldn't help a whole lot when I can wear yasha with its extra def and hp.

Its kinda odd that in the last month I seen more parry skill from my bst exping on tough mobs then I do on my nin whos trying to ding level ups. I have allot of levels from tanking as War. I have a ton of lvs from drawing to much hate from my Drk and Bst. An then I have Nin and its 75 lvls of being beat on. An then all the merit parties, Dyn, hnm, god camping. Helping tank coffer mobs and quest.

For me its kinda sad to think about it. Drk and war are over 60. Bst and Nin are 75. An my Parry is equivalent to a lvl 55 job =/

[dawdr]

I'm completely sure that Boxer's Mantle will do more to help your parrying rate than your evasion rate. If I can use a Boxer's Mantle on Thief (with no - Evasion gear because it wouldn't matter in the first place) then I'm pretty sure a Ninja can, what with your drastically inferior evasion.

[Wintermute]

The secret to getting your parrying up decently with speed is to use Chigoes. Gear up Ninja/Red Mage for all the parrying skill and damage down you can get and don't even bother with shadows. Make sure you've got an area of effect weapon skill with whatever you're using, and a magic one preferably, since you could miss with a physical one. Cyclone with a Parrying Knife or Earth Crusher with an Earth Staff both work wonders.

Head to Nashmau, out of the East exit if I remember correctly. There should be four Chigoes off to the right, all along the wall. Starting with one and working your way up to your confidence threshold is what I'd recommend. Don't engage the Chigoes, pick one of the saplings or birds that are around and just stay back where it won't bother you. My guess is you won't be able to get Phalanx up once they're swinging at you without a lot of luck, so when it goes hold up as long as you can and then weapon skill and kill the Chigoes. Lather, rinse, and repeat until you're in the 215 range.

I did a variant of this for my parrying on Thief, only using Warrior as my subjob (yay Defender) and a Spartan Hoplon for Phalanx. I'd gather all four Chigoes and then pull a sapling to keep myself alive with Bloody Bolts. I also used the sheep in the area, though that's a bit more risky since they have Berserk and a Paralyze move.

What level does Parrying cap at on the 4 Chigoes outside Nashmau for THF?

If I recall, way back when I was skilling my RDMs Shield I stopped getting Skillups around the 175 Mark on them.
Though that might be due to RDMs absolutely abysmal Shield Skill.

[Tdizzle]

There's a general belief that using a 2h weapon increases your chances to parry a good amount. I tend to believe this to be true as well, and it makes sense seeing as it's definitely easier to parry with a dagger than with a GS or something.

/confused
Isn't that contradicting?

I've always heard the 2handed weapon skills up parry faster than dagger myself. Perhaps you just worded the second sentence wrong.

[Tdizzle]

What level does Parrying cap at on the 4 Chigoes outside Nashmau for THF?

Think around 200 or so. Check out what level they are. I believe they're around level 60. FYI go dual box a rdm and phalx2 yourself, eat a taco, put on some def gear, grab a tera staff, sub war for defender, cast regen, pull 4+ (I think there are around 6 at the spot I was at) and watch the skill come in.

I got 10 parry levels in an hour this way. Dont claim any or the rdm will pull hate, just aggro and target something in the distance and hope it doesnt move too much. You can pretty much do this indefinitely. I've only done it once and probably couldve geared myself better or thought about subs more intelligently but it was my first time trying and havent gone back (it's been around a year)

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[dawdr]

What level does Parrying cap at on the 4 Chigoes outside Nashmau for THF?

If I recall, way back when I was skilling my RDMs Shield I stopped getting Skillups around the 175 Mark on them.
Though that might be due to RDMs absolutely abysmal Shield Skill.

The Caedarva Mire Chigoes are 62-66, so they could take you to 227 though I'd personally only use them to about 215 because at that point you're in the middle still, instead of going for the cap and praying what you've got is high enough for you.

[Rags]

I heard you can get to 210 on parry skill off of them outside of town. Right now I dont have much luck with outside help. A rdm buddy said they would help me out a little bit each day before their static Pt started. But then their ls got demanding on them. As for my Shell it seems that every time a Rdm is free im busy offline or in game with a pt.

will go a few routes gear wise and post results. I believe I can easily get 450+ as a Nin/whm. Thats without using the - physical defense gear. An then I will post information with it on and see which is better.

Tdizzle I like how you skilled up and then you parried very nice.

lol Dawd, I know our eva is crap. Why do you think my nin uses /thf all the time. I am trying to get some of your lovin lol.

[RKenshin]

There's a general belief that using a 2h weapon increases your chances to parry a good amount. I tend to believe this to be true as well, and it makes sense seeing as it's definitely easier to parry with a dagger than with a GS or something.

/confused
Isn't that contradicting?

I've always heard the 2handed weapon skills up parry faster than dagger myself. Perhaps you just worded the second sentence wrong.

Fail, I'm going crazy.

Yeah sorry, that's my mistake. It should read as:

There's a general belief that using a 2h weapon increases your chances to parry a good amount. I tend to believe this to be true as well, and it makes sense seeing as it's definitely easier to parry with giant GS than with a small dagger or something.

Also, there are a lot of old threads on methods to quickly skill up parry and guard if people are looking for ways to do this. A little over a year ago there were a lot of posts about it:

Parry skill (254 > 261 in a little over an hour):
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=16869&hilit=parry+guard+skill +up+den

Guard skill (went from 80-180 in two sessions):
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=18053&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=pa rry+guard+skill+up+den

More on Parry/Guard:
http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.php? ... 151154&d=0

Mandras rock:
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[Rags]

I am at 180's door step for parry right now. But it seem slike the only chance I really have for getting a decent skill rate is to find a rdm buddy. Right now with 375+ def and -35 physical defense gear. I still get hit around 11-28 a pop. Thats not counting crits from 33-60. It takes no time at all to strip away my 1200 hp.

What Id like to do is solo for some worth. But 0 returns in the tree and kuftal tunnel makes me fear that only finding a rdm will push my parry levels higher.

[Rags]

Kinda sad by myself with my gear choice I was at around 400 def and taking 11-28 a hit. An when I got help from a mage in my shell we boosted it over 600 and I took basically the same amount of damage. Even defender seemed to be little help. It kept the high end numbers lower. But it was a cosntant 11 dmg a hit =/

Anyways in 30mins with an Ls mate before we went to bed landed me 1.7 skills. Not to bad considering I only grabbed 2 Chigoes.