Randomly taking damage from Tiamat?

[Raineer]

Nothing was more funny than seeing our MNK/DRK attempt to do 100f/SE on one of our earliest Tiamats at low % (just don't f'in ask). He walked up, engaged, didn't even JA and just dropped dead. We didn't know about counter at that point haha

[Rocl]

Nothing was more funny than seeing our MNK/DRK attempt to do 100f/SE on one of our earliest Tiamats at low % (just don't f'in ask). He walked up, engaged, didn't even JA and just dropped dead. We didn't know about counter at that point haha

ROFL

You wouldn't happen to have that on video, would you?

[Raineer]

Sorry, twas a lagfest so I didn't bother. I think many of us died from laughter though, it was like our 3rd tiamat haha

[RKenshin]

lol I would've died laughing at that...

And man, I didn't even know you could bash while not engaged.

[Tdizzle]

/ I've gotten owned by the invisible counter on thf once or twice when I was too slow to disengage after ws. Timmy cheats.

[Osede]

lol I would've died laughing at that...

And man, I didn't even know you could bash while not engaged.

most of ja that doing damage won't require you to engage >.>

bash, cor element shot and etc


anyone know any ja that require you to be in engaging mode to use it?

[fallenleaf]

lol I would've died laughing at that...

And man, I didn't even know you could bash while not engaged.

most of ja that doing damage won't require you to engage >.>

bash, cor element shot and etc


anyone know any ja that require you to be in engaging mode to use it?

Desperate flourish? and Steps i'm pretty sure.

[Zilong]

Steps doesn't IIRC, targetted flourishes beside animated does though.

[Woozie]

I still remember the first time I saw a melee get countered by Tiamat. Reposado ran up to TA WS it, and after the weaponskill he just magically died. I didn't even know about counter back then, so I didn't know what the hell had happened.

[Hakamaru]

QFT, or tank it backwards. I am always weary at the start of a tiamat when 20-30 people are spamming him mobs have a habit of turning yellow without anyone engaged for stupid reasons. (especially if you sleep him at the start as the ally is building)

o.O That's not my experience at all. Usually stuff goes yellow because someone was engaged and then they disengaged after they were the last to act on the mob. I tank everything disengaged on NIN now, and nothing ever goes unclaimed. Such a waste of capped parry, but sainti are so addictive!

Having a tank engage while they're, well... tanking and then die is a higher risk of something going yellow than simply tanking disengaged.

[Churchill]

Quite a few other mobs have this as well, like Omega and I think Ultima (?). I know Omega does.

It's not very frequent though, maybe a 5% rate or something. I always engage while facing it on NIN regardless, just because my parry rate far outweighs getting countered anyway. And I've only seen it happen like <5 times ever in over 100 kills on NIN.

But then again, my accuracy with staff is pretty lose!

I engage because my staff is low, so low chance to hit added to low chance of counter vs. high parry.

Easy argument.