War/Dnc the tank that couldn't

[fantasticdan]

Wow endgame isn't that hard, all you have to do is sit and wait untill blizzard nerfs it for the semi casuals.

This is the last thing I'm going to post about wow, but serious question, since I'm not that serious of a wow player. What endgame raids have been nerfed enough to make them easily accessible to semi-casual players? Stuff like SSC/TK/MH/BT has been out for a pretty long time, and those aren't remotely casual friendly. Even naxx, the old level 60 pre-expansion raid, is relatively hard to do with geared 70s. I think a lot of people that don't actually play wow, confuse casual friendly things like pvp, heroics, etc.(which in ffxi terms would be like ballista, assault, besieged, etc.) with high-end raiding. You could say stuff like badge gear or removing attunements made things easier for semi-casual players, but that didn't make the raids harder themselves, just makes it easier for said players to get into the raids in the first place without being a waste of a slot.

Einherjar is my favourite "endgame event" hands-down. Tier1 or Tier3, it's awesome. Shitty abjuration or none at all, I have a blast doing it every time. 8)

I wish I could have at least gotten to try stuff past tier 1 just to say I beat it. I thought the actual event was fun (although I'm sure it gets old after clearing odin), but the lack of scaling, and design towards a 24-36 person group made it pretty unaccessible for my small ls. We even tried to put together a separate einherjar ls and recruit some outside people, but that fell apart after the second run. Than again, that was before they nerfed it. omg SE nerfing shit for semi casuals

[Tajin]

I'm was just bashing TierI for those LS that are on their 3rd or 4th Odin kill, shit gets old IMO.

Same with climbing Uleguerand Range for the 300th time to get the fan (mind you I actually like climbing uleguerand range).

[Arvin]

Wow endgame isn't that hard, all you have to do is sit and wait untill blizzard nerfs it for the semi casuals.

This is the last thing I'm going to post about wow, but serious question, since I'm not that serious of a wow player. What endgame raids have been nerfed enough to make them easily accessible to semi-casual players? Stuff like SSC/TK/MH/BT has been out for a pretty long time, and those aren't remotely casual friendly. Even naxx, the old level 60 pre-expansion raid, is relatively hard to do with geared 70s. I think a lot of people that don't actually play wow, confuse casual friendly things like pvp, heroics, etc.(which in ffxi terms would be like ballista, assault, besieged, etc.) with high-end raiding. You could say stuff like badge gear or removing attunements made things easier for semi-casual players, but that didn't make the raids harder themselves, just makes it easier for said players to get into the raids in the first place without being a waste of a slot.

Einherjar is my favourite "endgame event" hands-down. Tier1 or Tier3, it's awesome. Shitty abjuration or none at all, I have a blast doing it every time. 8)

I wish I could have at least gotten to try stuff past tier 1 just to say I beat it. I thought the actual event was fun (although I'm sure it gets old after clearing odin), but the lack of scaling, and design towards a 24-36 person group made it pretty unaccessible for my small ls. We even tried to put together a separate einherjar ls and recruit some outside people, but that fell apart after the second run. Than again, that was before they nerfed it. omg SE nerfing shit for semi casuals

Ill enlighten you.

Multiple nerfs have happened to every single raid boss at some point and time post burning crusade. The real hardcore players generally don't have a problem with most bosses before nerfs and go on to farm bosses. People bitch and complain, and blizzard hits each boss with a nerf stick. i.e the first true nerfs happened in Karazhan. Nightbane was insane before anything nerfed. (his skeleton spawns took no damage except holy damage and had a ton of hp) near impossible for casual or even casualish/hardcore players. almost every boss took huge nerfs in SSC and TK. TK got hit the hardest though. Al'ar went to a joke level, and H.A Solarian is now baron geddon. It used to take a lot more to bring them down, but now someone in greens/blues can kill them. Kael'thas was hit hardest with the nerf stick multiple times. Each of his council members had their hp halved and so did the weapons. Taking out attunements also fucked everything up. Not to mention every boss in BT and even in Hyjal has been fucked with majorly. Archimonde is a pussy final boss. BT has maybe 2 semi-hard bosses? Gurtogg and Illidan really is all that stands infront of 'casuals' from getting some of the best gear now. Mother Shahraz used to be near impossible when we were fighting her, seriously. Bang-head-on-desk hard even. Every weapon past karazhan got majorly buffed too and not to mention you can use Season 3 gladiator gear thats about as equal as T5.

Sunwell is definitely fucking difficult. Horror stories about brutallus, felmyst and twin eredars. I'm sure m'uru and kil'jaeden will be fucked up but you know what's gonna be funny? Give or take 3 months, the raid gets nerfed to oblivion and casuals go in and 2-shot most bosses. Badge gear is pretty much equivalent to T6 now too with no set bonuses so congratulations blizzard on nullifying all the great story and awesome raids people can just skip. I miss pre-BC when naxxramas was THE fucking raid and blizzard would reward those putting in so much effort to kill 4HM/Sapph/Kel'thuzad. Also, lol at saying naxx is hard to do with geared 70s still.

tldr; wow is for casuals and is a fucking joke now. you STILL can't compare the two fucking games to one another because they're 100% different. they just share the genre of game. I really wish blizzard didn't sell out to casuals because I still love the game, but I refuse to play it anymore :\

[Koga]

I still say WoW was better when the cap was 60.

[The Blackrose]

I still say WoW was better when the only PvP was the massive battles between Tarren Mill and Southshore or Splintertree Outpost and Astraanar.

Fixed.

[Bagel]

Go play HKO you noobs.