Friendly Rampart discussion (Probably nothing new)

[Espera]

My group's been at Salvage for over a year and we've never seen any Macha's Cuffs. Ever. I think we've seen 2-3 Hikazu Sune-ate, a couple of Freya's Masks, and a couple of Enlil's Brayettes, but most of the time Mad Bomber isn't up, and I'm personally 0/10 on Gate Widow drops. Suck it up and deal with it; ramparts suck ass.

[bblazeuk]

My first salvage group had a roughly 50% rate of seeing any Skirmish Pephredo when we popped 2nd floor ramparts and never saw a drop off any of them in about 3 months.
Have just started a new group, and in 4 Bhaflau runs we have seen 3-2-3-4 Skirmish Pephredo, with the one before last dropping a Freya's mask (only person who wanted it wasn't there ; ; )
and our last nights run finally seeing a pair of Hizaku Sune-ate (only 2 more to go)

[Kysmet]

I'm sorry to kind of necro this, but I'm astounded anyone is complaining after 10 runs. My group hasn't seen the NM ONCE in a fucking lot of runs (at 25, I quit counting) on 2f, and our line for those shoes is so congested it may become infected. I think the best thing is patience, as is key for... everything from salvage?

(edit before I'm flamed: we have tried everything. We enter on earth/wind/lightning day: both zone and rampart. We enter at night. We enter during the day. WE enter during full moon. We enter during new moon. We nuke the flans. We don't nuke the flans. Noooooooooooothin!)

[SamanosukeShiva]

probably someone in your group got a bad luck

might wanna sacrifice a taru or two for GL!

[Kaylia]

I'm sorry to kind of necro this, but I'm astounded anyone is complaining after 10 runs. My group hasn't seen the NM ONCE in 50+ runs (at 50, I quit counting) on 2f, and our line for those shoes is so congested it may become infected. I think the best thing is patience, as is key for... everything from salvage?

(edit before I'm flamed: we have tried everything. We enter on earth/wind/lightning day: both zone and rampart. We enter at night. We enter during the day. WE enter during full moon. We enter during new moon. We nuke the flans. We don't nuke the flans. Noooooooooooothin!)

Have someone else zone in salvage area. Conspiracy theory maybe, but I can't explain the streak different salvage group get otherwise.

[Not Kuno]

I'm sorry to kind of necro this, but I'm astounded anyone is complaining after 10 runs. My group hasn't seen the NM ONCE in a fucking lot of runs (at 25, I quit counting) on 2f, and our line for those shoes is so congested it may become infected. I think the best thing is patience, as is key for... everything from salvage?

(edit before I'm flamed: we have tried everything. We enter on earth/wind/lightning day: both zone and rampart. We enter at night. We enter during the day. WE enter during full moon. We enter during new moon. We nuke the flans. We don't nuke the flans. Noooooooooooothin!)

Same deal with us and pretty much any bhaf nm, we never see anything really. We also /random for who starts it and that doesn't seem to do anything.

[Scorp]

As stupid as it sounds (av theories go), we pull ramparts with the elemental spell of the day. Totally based of the element on spell menu.

We did it as a joke at first and got a few pops and drop, so we kept doing it. Out of 43 runs we had 3 35's in the first 20-25, we now have 16 35's after starting to do this. I can only really remember 2 inactive ramparts since we started doing it.

I'm sure this is more likely to be luck and as with crafting directions only sensible if you consider the lack of anything better to give that placebo effect, but we'll keep doing it. (not that we need any 35's out of the zone anymore ^^)

[bblazeuk]

As stupid as it sounds (av theories go), we pull ramparts with the elemental spell of the day. Totally based of the element on spell menu.

We did it as a joke at first and got a few pops and drop, so we kept doing it. Out of 43 runs we had 3 35's in the first 20-25, we now have 16 35's after starting to do this. I can only really remember 2 inactive ramparts since we started doing it.

I do this as well with my new group and recently we have had insane luck on 2nd floor rampart.
Only one inactive out of about 6 runs, 5 ramparts about 16 pops yielding 4 Skadi masks and 2 Usukane feet 35s.

[oldoldman]

Obviously not conclusive but pulling with the corresponding element has netted us 6 Gate Widows out of 2 runs which dropped 3 cuffs and 2 Pephedros out of 1 run which dropped 1 Sune-Ate. The first Gate Widow rampart was a fluke that it was pulled with the right element and we weren't able to replicate it on bees because the day changed. Like people are saying this could be chalked up to luck, but it certainly doesn't hurt to try this.

Now we don't even have to do F2 :D