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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by devis
    thats pretty close to as good as a bst can get. grats if thats a new relic or whatever.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars
    old pic too, she now got velocious belt, askar head, askar hand, ulthalam's ring, and mainly melee in guttler + temp axe, with temperance torque

    she doesnt like the gimped sword skill to use her ridill anymore
    It's old. She's had it for a while.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk
    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek
    Considering you also have that 20acc from apoca, Askar should definitely be the choice of headgear. The crit bonus might be small, but it sure beats 3acc that will take you from 95% acc to 95% acc <_< imo though, Ace's looks a lot better than Askar.
    Is this really what you tell yourself? or is it just because you can't get one?
    You're so retarded, it's sad.

    With his gear, he's most definitely at the accuracy cap for meriting, which is where you can come up with an all around working setup that doesn't need tweaking depending on situation, mainly because there are 2? camps that people currently use for meriting when they are good enough. Colibri, and Nyzul Mamools.
    Now, let's take the good camp of the two (Nyzul Mamools) and see what they have to offer:

    Mamool Ja Stabler, cause it's the only mob I could find that people have figured out the stats for (Aside from one that has lower evasion, and then the Lurker, which is just 1 spawn, and the BRD will most likely throw a madrigal on the melees, since I assume the other melees don't have 20acc from a relic, which would put said relic holder on capped acc anyways).
    Evasion:344

    Thanks to FFXI Calculator, even a being with an amoeba's intelligence, such as yourself, can check the estimated hit-rate with a certain setup.

    Let's assume said relic holder is using the setup in his screenshot, going DRK/SAM and is currently using Sole Sushi +1 (While he does have a lot of accuracy in gear, it won't put him at more than an approximate 85% hitrate, which in this case is unacceptable, seeing as the entire argument is based on having capped accuracy. I'm also assuming he's not poor, but NQ sushi works just as well.) and that he's also currently having to use seigan, meaning no hasso acc boost.

    Fighting the above named mob, will result in him having quite a bit more acc than actually needed to hit 95% hit-rate. It also means that he will have 95% hit-rate until the mob's evasion goes past 414, in which case we've already established it's only the case with the Lurker. (This is all assuming that he is not using a headgear piece at all btw.)

    Now that we've come to the conclusion that he will be at 95% acc, even without one of the two helms, which is better? 4dex that will raise his critical hit rate slightly, or 7acc that will do absolutely nothing at all. nothing at all. nothing at all

    Now do you see why I said that in his case Askar would be the preferred headgear of choice, over Ace's?

    On to what you fail to realize: I TP in Ares's Cuirass when I'm on DRK/SAM (or when using sushi on DRK/other, otherwise using Askar body for TP and Ares's for WS, when using Carbonara to hit a lower hit build. But that still leaves me with 16acc and 11dex less than him on my body piece.) I also do not have an Apocalypse which gives him an additional 20acc (I use Perdu or Tred, depending on the build). So in MY case Ace's Helm would be better, and I want one. However I'm not up for going to Scorpion's Aery at the moment, just to have you spam search me to get ToD, and will definitely settle for Askar head since the difference is minimal.

    I'm sorry that you weren't able to earn any cool points with your superiors this time for berating someone who decided to not be a hypocrite and join an LS that they've spent a great deal of time bashing, calling it's leader retarded, worthless and it's members scum, etc. (Then again, I guess you were just farming those cool points back then as well, since the superiors were doing the same thing.)

    Good lord am I glad I'm not around you guys anymore.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Askar is really really ugly. I like aces

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche
    Aces is really really ugly. I like Askar

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25...11/acessig.jpg
    someone make me a sig, paint sucks

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Indalecia
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    Helms are really really ugly. I like my pigtails

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    lololololol @ anyone who thinks askar is better than ace's for anything.

    you're not capped for meritting. if you are, you are doing something wrong and need to change your gear/songs/food because you're lacking something somewhere else.


    also who is the fucking idiot that said a relic drk should be using sole sushi +1??? klololol go back to scrubland you fat piece of shit.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    If you've capped accuracy, use walhara turban. If you haven't, use Ace's. Period.

    1 haste > 4 str 4 dex for tping.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    If you've capped accuracy, use walhara turban. If you haven't, use Ace's. Period.

    1 haste > 4 str 4 dex for tping.
    Exhaustively, definitively for every situation? How can you know? And even if you do, is the difference going to be so great to make a BFD over it? Probably not.

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    Sweet Jesus, Kheleks post made my head hurt. You calling anyone an idiot is quite possibly the funniest thing I've read on here in awhile. Thanks for the laugh.

    I don't have the time to pick apart the entire post, but I will say this for now.

    1) You will not hit 95% ACC in merit PTs. Athars(sp) won't with his setup. So Aces will always > Askar unless you're fighting weak mobs.

    2) Sushi + 2Handers = Oh no you didn't.

    3) Admitting you use Ares/Askar body on DRK is quite bad. You should be embarrassed.

    I'll elaborate and edit this post a little later.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by moguri
    lololololol @ anyone who thinks askar is better than ace's for anything.

    you're not capped for meritting. if you are, you are doing something wrong and need to change your gear/songs/food because you're lacking something somewhere else.


    also who is the fucking idiot that said a relic drk should be using sole sushi +1??? klololol go back to scrubland you fat piece of shit.
    Whether you are right or wrong, you sound like a fucking idiot.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Vedder
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    If you've capped accuracy, use walhara turban. If you haven't, use Ace's. Period.

    1 haste > 4 str 4 dex for tping.
    Exhaustively, definitively for every situation? How can you know? And even if you do, is the difference going to be so great to make a BFD over it? Probably not.
    I'm making a big deal over it? And anyways yes, definitively.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Valisk
    Quote Originally Posted by moguri
    lololololol @ anyone who thinks askar is better than ace's for anything.

    you're not capped for meritting. if you are, you are doing something wrong and need to change your gear/songs/food because you're lacking something somewhere else.


    also who is the fucking idiot that said a relic drk should be using sole sushi +1??? klololol go back to scrubland you fat piece of shit.
    Whether you are right or wrong, you sound like a fucking idiot.
    basically im right, thanks.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by Vedder
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    If you've capped accuracy, use walhara turban. If you haven't, use Ace's. Period.

    1 haste > 4 str 4 dex for tping.
    Exhaustively, definitively for every situation? How can you know? And even if you do, is the difference going to be so great to make a BFD over it? Probably not.
    I'm making a big deal over it? And anyways yes, definitively.
    Never said you were making a big deal over it, but there are people in this thread that are, right? Anyway, I don't know if you're right or not, I just know that if you're right you're guessing.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    As Maxx said to me on AIM a second ago, in the case of an apoca DRK, if you're getting to keep catastrophe's haste up at all times, Ace's, Askar's and Turban are all crap. In that scenario, you'd be better off with something like Ares's head.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    or change dusk to armada mouf

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek
    I'm jealous.
    So yeah... sushi... great arguement...

    Btw, we'll sell you an ace's if you can get up the scratch...

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk
    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek
    I'm jealous.
    So yeah... sushi... great arguement...

    Btw, we'll sell you an ace's if you can get up the scratch...
    wut?

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk
    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek
    I'm jealous.
    So yeah... sushi... great arguement...
    At least Kheleks character hasnt been passed around the server like a $2 hooker from being sold and resold again.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk
    So yeah... sushi... great arguement...

    Btw, we'll sell you an ace's if you can get up the scratch...
    Good job with the reading comprehension. You score a 0.

    And I'm sorry if I think eating sushi when you're scoring a whopping 75ish % acc is valid in a merit pt. IDK there's just something about losing those extra 20% of your attacks that kinda makes me want to avoid it.

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