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  1. #81
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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Yeah, same. I have about 2 less accuracy than the OP's gear setup and using Hasso I'm still not capped eating meat at Mamool. Really hitting the acc cap only happens at like, the bird camp. Which isn't the best place for exp to begin with.

    And yeah, even discounting flashga/windwall the results are the same.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bagel
    Fixeded.
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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Now we need an "I'm with Askar.
    Cause War can't wear Ace's"

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Somebody make an I'm with turban sig, one less thing to swap around when changing jobs.

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    1) You will not hit 95% ACC in merit PTs. Athars(sp) won't with his setup. So Aces will always > Askar unless you're fighting weak mobs.
    Athars set up puts him at around 414 accuracy if my calculations are correct. Against stablers his acc would indeed be capped. Against anything but lurkers his acc would be capped actually, and if your brd isn't singing mandrigal for them or you don't have a thf who can feint every one then your party fails.

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Max™
    Now we need an "I'm with Askar.
    Cause War can't wear Ace's"
    on it for you max

  6. #86
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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadgye
    1) You will not hit 95% ACC in merit PTs. Athars(sp) won't with his setup. So Aces will always > Askar unless you're fighting weak mobs.
    Athars set up puts him at around 414 accuracy if my calculations are correct. Against stablers his acc would indeed be capped. Against anything but lurkers his acc would be capped actually, and if your brd isn't singing mandrigal for them or you don't have a thf who can feint every one then your party fails.
    No, you wouldn't be capped. In the gear shown in the OP, it would still be short of the cap eating meat on mamool.

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Capped feint merits puts you on a 6 minute timer. At the mamool camp near birds if you're killing at a speed that allows you to keep chain from not killing too fast you'll fight one lurker exactly every 6 minutes. When I said brd+madrigal before, I meant exclusively for lurkers. Well, maybe nin too.

    edit: Damn you and your ninja edits. :/

    No, you wouldn't be capped. In the gear shown in the OP, it would still be short of the cap eating meat on mamool.
    Since you stated before that your set up only has 2 less acc than the OPs, can I inquire as to what your TP gear is, and what your hit rate was on mamools if you have any parses saved?

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Max™
    Now we need an "I'm with Askar.
    Cause War can't wear Ace's"
    http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...9_02/askar.jpg

    this ok?

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    /cheer

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Yeah the Apoc in there makes a ton of sense. =P

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadgye
    Capped feint merits puts you on a 6 minute timer. At the mamool camp near birds if you're killing at a speed that allows you to keep chain from not killing too fast you'll fight one lurker exactly every 6 minutes. When I said brd+madrigal before, I meant exclusively for lurkers. Well, maybe nin too.

    edit: Damn you and your ninja edits. :/
    Originally misunderstood your post, sorry.

    I thought you were suggesting that a relic user should have madrigal/feint for all mobs... Not just lurkers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deadgye
    Since you stated before that your set up only has 2 less acc than the OPs, can I inquire as to what your TP gear is, and what your hit rate was on mamools if you have any parses saved?
    I just redid the math, actually. I have .5 more accuracy than the OP's gear setup.

    The OP's total accuracy from gear, DEX from gear, and merits comes out to 97.2. My total using the same sources comes out to 97.7. Assuming I didn't make a mistake, although pretty sure I didn't.

    That's while using this gear:
    http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5971/ffxi3666aa9.jpg
    16*.9 + 20 + 2 + 7 + 7*.9 + 12 + 8*.75 + 5*.75 + 8 + 15*.75 + 7 = 97.7

    I just got out of a pickup PT an hour ago at Mamool. Using the exact gear above my acc % was 89% overall, 88% on just mamool (edited all other mobs out). Only like two Skoffins were fought. I don't feel like uploading the parse in a SS, just take my word for it lol. If you really want I'll upload it later.

    But yeah, it's not enough to cap. I didn't use Hasso though, if I used full-time I probably could've bumped it up to about 91-93%. Which is what I normally get there using Hasso full-time.

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Epical
    Yeah the Apoc in there makes a ton of sense. =P
    D:

    That's a good point, I was just like "yey, finally people will understand my pain" and then it's like "wait, Drk can wear Ace's."

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Vistani
    Somebody make an I'm with turban sig, one less thing to swap around when changing jobs.
    http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d..._02/gimp-1.jpg

    is all your gonna get from me

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Epical
    Yeah the Apoc in there makes a ton of sense. =P
    http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...9_02/ohhai.jpg

    ^- is why there is an apoc =P


    redone for max

    http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...09_02/max2.jpg

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    Lucky im bored camping cerberus on cerberus

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    I just got out of a PT an hour ago at Mamool. Using the exact gear above my acc % was 89% overall, 88% on just mamool. I don't feel like uploading the parse in a SS, just take my word for it lol. If you really want I'll upload it later.
    You'd be suprised how much lurkers and nin mamool can actually skew a parse. You and the OP should have right around the same accuracy, give or take 1% hit rate.

    With his 414 acc he has a theoretical hit rate of 103/98/94 on the level 81/82/83 stablers. On lurkers he has a theoretical hit rate of 58/54/49 on the level 81/82/83 lurkers. Stablers are beastmasters iirc, so all the other mamool besides ninjas and lurkers will be around their evasion or lower.

    Having 88% at mamool camp means you're probably capped unless you're fighting lurkers/ninjas. You wouldn't happen to know of a parser than can parse your hit rate seperately for each mob type, would you? <.<;

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadgye
    You wouldn't happen to know of a parser than can parse your hit rate seperately for each mob type, would you? <.<;
    FFXIP

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Ahem



    Fuck scorp helm

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Indalecia
    Ahem



    Fuck scorp helm
    i lold

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Cause cerberus cerberus on cerberus cerberus cerberus?

    Also: yey, war!

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Max™
    Now we need an "I'm with Askar.
    Cause War can't wear Ace's"

    how about a "I'm with Ares"

    Cause I need to justify the cost of 12 ocl ingots

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