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  1. #161
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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    I remember a party with Khrno in which we both went DRK/SAM, full-timed Hasso and used Souleater often. During the entire party the mages never went below half MP, and the poor WAR/NIN that we brought with us got absolutely walked in damage.

    Here was the parse:

    http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...se10-10-07.png

    Tredecim Scythe and E.Body vs. Algol and Ares's Cuirass, I was using the latter.

    You are both capped on ACC....which part of north gustaberg were you camping at?

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Taint
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    I remember a party with Khrno in which we both went DRK/SAM, full-timed Hasso and used Souleater often. During the entire party the mages never went below half MP, and the poor WAR/NIN that we brought with us got absolutely walked in damage.

    Here was the parse:

    http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...se10-10-07.png

    Tredecim Scythe and E.Body vs. Algol and Ares's Cuirass, I was using the latter.

    You are both capped on ACC....which part of north gustaberg were you camping at?
    Bird camp, cheap attack food (I think I was using NQ Mithkabobs, he was using Coeurl Subs) and 2x March/Minuet. Capping accuracy on DRK is easy, and I don't even use an accuracy body piece. >_>

  3. #163
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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Quote Originally Posted by Taint
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    I remember a party with Khrno in which we both went DRK/SAM, full-timed Hasso and used Souleater often. During the entire party the mages never went below half MP, and the poor WAR/NIN that we brought with us got absolutely walked in damage.

    Here was the parse:

    http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...se10-10-07.png

    Tredecim Scythe and E.Body vs. Algol and Ares's Cuirass, I was using the latter.

    You are both capped on ACC....which part of north gustaberg were you camping at?
    Bird camp, cheap attack food (I think I was using NQ Mithkabobs, he was using Coeurl Subs) and 2x March/Minuet. Capping accuracy on DRK is easy, and I don't even use an accuracy body piece. >_>

    As DRK/SAM i'm usually capped acc (and if im not, close to it) at bird camp

    Mamool however...is a totally different ball game....don't think I will ever get cap acc there

  4. #164
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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Capping acc at bird camp is easy, yeah. Or well, at least for relic users and/or fully merited/geared jobs.

    Not the same story at mamool though, no matter what the job.

  5. #165
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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Shinsei
    As DRK/SAM i'm usually capped acc (and if im not, close to it) at bird camp

    Mamool however...is a totally different ball game....don't think I will ever get cap acc there
    Yeah, I'm fairly certain that I would need a Madrigal at least to cap accuracy there, maybe some Hedgehog Pie for an additional 5 accuracy.

  6. #166
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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Taint
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    I remember a party with Khrno in which we both went DRK/SAM, full-timed Hasso and used Souleater often. During the entire party the mages never went below half MP, and the poor WAR/NIN that we brought with us got absolutely walked in damage.

    Here was the parse:

    http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...se10-10-07.png

    Tredecim Scythe and E.Body vs. Algol and Ares's Cuirass, I was using the latter.

    You are both capped on ACC....which part of north gustaberg were you camping at?

    Van that was just before you got Ares, you were using Hauby+1.


    Anyway I remember the other party when we both used Algol and tho I beat you slightly on dot but the parser went to me thanks to ws dmg, due to higher STR setup.

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Khrno
    Quote Originally Posted by Taint
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    I remember a party with Khrno in which we both went DRK/SAM, full-timed Hasso and used Souleater often. During the entire party the mages never went below half MP, and the poor WAR/NIN that we brought with us got absolutely walked in damage.

    Here was the parse:

    http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...se10-10-07.png

    Tredecim Scythe and E.Body vs. Algol and Ares's Cuirass, I was using the latter.

    You are both capped on ACC....which part of north gustaberg were you camping at?

    Van that was just before you got Ares, you were using Hauby+1.


    Anyway I remember the other party when we both used Algol and tho I beat you slightly on dot but the parser went to me thanks to ws dmg, due to higher STR setup.
    Damn, you're right, it was before Ares.

    It was also before I got my Abyss Cape though, so I suppose it about evens out.

  8. #168
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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Quote Originally Posted by Khrno
    Quote Originally Posted by Taint
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    I remember a party with Khrno in which we both went DRK/SAM, full-timed Hasso and used Souleater often. During the entire party the mages never went below half MP, and the poor WAR/NIN that we brought with us got absolutely walked in damage.

    Here was the parse:

    http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...se10-10-07.png

    Tredecim Scythe and E.Body vs. Algol and Ares's Cuirass, I was using the latter.

    You are both capped on ACC....which part of north gustaberg were you camping at?

    Van that was just before you got Ares, you were using Hauby+1.


    Anyway I remember the other party when we both used Algol and tho I beat you slightly on dot but the parser went to me thanks to ws dmg, due to higher STR setup.
    Damn, you're right, it was before Ares.

    It was also before I got my Abyss Cape though, so I suppose it about evens out.

    I want A.Cape for my Guillos, but we like never go to CoP dynamis

  9. #169
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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    I remember a party with Khrno in which we both went DRK/SAM, full-timed Hasso and used Souleater often. During the entire party the mages never went below half MP, and the poor WAR/NIN that we brought with us got absolutely walked in damage.

    Here was the parse:

    http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...se10-10-07.png

    Tredecim Scythe and E.Body vs. Algol and Ares's Cuirass, I was using the latter.
    How many mages is Mages?

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Fng
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    I remember a party with Khrno in which we both went DRK/SAM, full-timed Hasso and used Souleater often. During the entire party the mages never went below half MP, and the poor WAR/NIN that we brought with us got absolutely walked in damage.

    Here was the parse:

    http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...se10-10-07.png

    Tredecim Scythe and E.Body vs. Algol and Ares's Cuirass, I was using the latter.
    How many mages is Mages?
    BRD/NIN BRD/WHM and RDM with Dalm/AF2 hat/Sanction, so 9 MP/tic Refresh.

  11. #171
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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Ah. the never going below half MP is not b/c of the parse then..

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Fng
    Ah. the never going below half MP is not b/c of the parse then..

    Well In my case I only abuse of SE depending on the members of the party of course, but there are situations like this (and most of my merit pts are in similar in that respect) when not using SE is a waste and not a hindrance.

    Talking about accuracy I have this recent parser from about month ago at North Mamool camp.

    http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1.../parse2-29.jpg

    Party setup:

    - Island WAR/NIN: Maneater/Ridill, Adaberk, Turban, Swift, Dusk, Unicorn, Haidate, Charm, Suppa, Brutal, Acc rings, Foragers, Bomblet and Sole Sushi +1.

    - Panazawa WAR/NIN: Perdu Voulge (used Man/Ridill for a couple fights and changed back to GA), Pole Strap, Armada Hauberk, Turban, Speed, Dusk+1, Unicorn, Haidate, Charm, Assault Earring, Brutal, Sniper +1, Rajas, Cerb +1, Bomblet and H.Pie.

    - Khrno DRK/SAM: Tred, Pole Strap, Adaberk, Ace, Dusks hands/feet, Homam legs, Swift, Charm, Abyssal/Brutal, Bomb Core, Foragers, Ecph/Rajas and Carbonara +1.

    *Note: full meritted on all aplicable.

    BRDx2 and RDM72.

    I was half the party just below the GA WAR, so started pushing it with SE, hadn't used it before since the RDM was just 72, and after that i managed to get over him.

    However due to my lack of Acc on key slots (hands/feet/throwing/7 acc rings) my acc was so low. I hope in a about a month or 2 when i complete Homam and buy other items, I'll get to at least 88% there.

    Have to say that if the GA WAR would have been /SAM he would have owned the parser by at least 5%, full hasted and HQ WAR/SAM is no match unless you are a full hasted DRK/SAM spamming SE indeed (not talking about any other jobs, just WAR and DRK). Really impressive, now i just need some Haidates for my upcoming 67 WAR :ashira:

  13. #173
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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    im 95% on birds and 89-90% on mamools

    i spam SE too whenever its up, and does absorb acc on lurkers only

    not a problem at all with catastrophe's drain to keep HP up and make mages afk

    however most mages does not know wat catas do and always cure unnecessaryly -_-

    full time hasso ftw (if you know what to do)

    its also possible to third eye w/o seigan for Pecks flurry and vorpal blades etc etc WS if your well trained at it hehehe

  14. #174
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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Ruke, update your LJ ; ;

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    capped acc on birds is a joke to get...

  16. #176
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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    I go DRK/WAR in 4/5 Onyx (Askar Helm of course) and spam provoke (Souleater as well) to position the birds, so our other melee can Trick Attack WS me. We kill so fast MP isn't an issue.

    Oh, and we even bring level 50 RDMs who end up AFKing 95% of the PT anyways.

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Mugmug
    I go DRK/WAR in 4/5 Onyx (Askar Helm of course) and spam provoke (Souleater as well) to position the birds, so our other melee can Trick Attack WS me. We kill so fast MP isn't an issue.

    Oh, and we even bring level 50 RDMs who end up AFKing 95% of the PT anyways.
    Rofl you're so stupid for using Askar

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by Mugmug
    I go DRK/WAR in 4/5 Onyx (Askar Helm of course) and spam provoke (Souleater as well) to position the birds, so our other melee can Trick Attack WS me. We kill so fast MP isn't an issue.

    Oh, and we even bring level 50 RDMs who end up AFKing 95% of the PT anyways.
    Rofl you're so stupid for using Askar

    lol i would have pointed our some of the other many wrong things in there, but not quite the Askar

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    I want to see some parses with out filtering damage taken!

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    Re: Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    Quote Originally Posted by Rydir
    I want to see some parses with out filtering damage taken!
    Shadow Mantle.

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