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  1. #1
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    Spinel Ring vs. Sniper's Ring +1 for Relic DRK

    TWO STATS ENTER
    ONE STAT LEAVES.
    DEX+4 versus ACC+7
    http://images.somepage.com/ffxi/icons/13451.jpg versus http://images.somepage.com/ffxi/icons/13281.jpg


    [originally from Relic thread :bagel: ]


    Quote Originally Posted by Sho
    A DRKs wet dream:
    Apoc, Armada, V Belt, Ace's. Seen him with Dusk but didn't care to ever check if HQ or not. All that and he gimps with up with Amemet+1, lol.
    http://mectradegroup.com/FFXI/acceptable.JPG

    no V belt, but got speed belt
    no ace's but got a nicer askar
    no amemet +1 but got cerb NQ LOL

    0/11 cerb hides on HQ yey

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    lolz at even comparing aces and askar?! ITT: shitstorm

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Mk. 2
    lolz at even comparing aces and askar?! ITT: shitstorm
    >.>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Ace's helm has same str and same haste and w/ new acc thing the 4 dex isn't half bad and you get teh crit bonus... it's comparable enough that people can argue over which is better

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by devis
    pass that gutler to a more qualified bst (edited from deserving cause i dont deserve shit)
    http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...6/img_0081.png

    old pic too now much better.
    i think theres more qualified BST than you

    http://mectradegroup.com/FFXI/anli.JPG

    old pic too, she now got velocious belt, askar head, askar hand, ulthalam's ring, and mainly melee in guttler + temp axe, with temperance torque

    she doesnt like the gimped sword skill to use her ridill anymore

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Askar > Ace's...




    Cause War can't use Ace's.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Mk. 2
    lolz at even comparing aces and askar?! ITT: shitstorm
    when i meant "nicer askar", i mean it looks nicer hahaha

    scorpion helm's skin no thanks www

    anyway 4% haste 4 dex 4 str VS 4 str 7 acc 4% haste for 2h is very minor diff, except, again, askar head looks nicer haha

    4 dex = approx 3 acc and minor crit boost
    7 acc = 7 acc

    red scorpion helm skin VS black helmet

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    i'm hume m , got askar zucchetto and i feel ugly as hell .-.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Griss_Fairy
    i'm hume m , got askar zucchetto and i feel ugly as hell .-.
    It's ugly on all races, just that Ace's is even uglier.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars
    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Mk. 2
    lolz at even comparing aces and askar?! ITT: shitstorm
    when i meant "nicer askar", i mean it looks nicer hahaha

    scorpion helm's skin no thanks www

    anyway 4% haste 4 dex 4 str VS 4 str 7 acc 4% haste for 2h is very minor diff, except, again, askar head looks nicer haha

    4 dex = approx 3 acc and minor crit boost
    7 acc = 7 acc

    red scorpion helm skin VS black helmet
    Considering you also have that 20acc from apoca, Askar should definitely be the choice of headgear. The crit bonus might be small, but it sure beats 3acc that will take you from 95% acc to 95% acc <_< imo though, Ace's looks a lot better than Askar.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek
    Considering you also have that 20acc from apoca, Askar should definitely be the choice of headgear. The crit bonus might be small, but it sure beats 3acc that will take you from 95% acc to 95% acc <_< imo though, Ace's looks a lot better than Askar.
    Is this really what you tell yourself? or is it just because you can't get one?

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek
    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars
    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Mk. 2
    lolz at even comparing aces and askar?! ITT: shitstorm
    when i meant "nicer askar", i mean it looks nicer hahaha

    scorpion helm's skin no thanks www

    anyway 4% haste 4 dex 4 str VS 4 str 7 acc 4% haste for 2h is very minor diff, except, again, askar head looks nicer haha

    4 dex = approx 3 acc and minor crit boost
    7 acc = 7 acc

    red scorpion helm skin VS black helmet
    Considering you also have that 20acc from apoca, Askar should definitely be the choice of headgear. The crit bonus might be small, but it sure beats 3acc that will take you from 95% acc to 95% acc <_< imo though, Ace's looks a lot better than Askar.
    lol no

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    4 ACC > 4 DEX for anything endgame, and for lower level stuff W.Turban > both.

    I've been on break awhile, but I remember DEX working in tiers. 4 DEX would still add to your critical%, but in a standard build like most DRKs use it would add maybe 0.25%? Ruke (I believe it was him) tested a DEX build on his SAM last year sometime and showed how it worked in brackets.

    At the end of the day, it doesn't matter though. Not many pieces of gear really make an impact on your performance. Just bored and thought I'd post.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Mugmug
    4 ACC > 4 DEX for anything endgame, and for lower level stuff W.Turban > both.

    I've been on break awhile, but I remember DEX working in tiers. 4 DEX would still add to your critical%, but in a standard build like most DRKs use it would add maybe 0.25%? Ruke (I believe it was him) tested a DEX build on his SAM last year sometime and showed how it worked in brackets.

    At the end of the day, it doesn't matter though. Not many pieces of gear really make an impact on your performance. Just bored and thought I'd post.
    It probably would have been better if you stayed bored and didn't post. Askar and Ace's are both better than Turban, hell, I would use Usukane over Turban if they ever add a loot table to Hammerblow.

    Edit: You might have missed that the person you are talking about has an E. Body and an Apoc. Accuracy, though important, is perhaps not the largest of his concerns.

    Edit 2: Ace's looks cooler than Askar. >.>; *hides*

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    my nin uses usu head over turban because with MY NIN's attacking speed, i'll pick 7 acc 3 str over 2% haste

    my drk and etc job will use askar over turban because turban is ugly & im still cap 25% haste ,with apoc, with or without a turban

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars
    my nin uses usu head over turban because with MY NIN's attacking speed, i'll pick 7 acc 3 str over 2% haste

    my drk and etc job will use askar over turban because turban is ugly & im still cap 25% haste ,with apoc, with or without a turban
    1. 25% Haste? 4 (Askar) +4 (Dusk +1) +6 (Speed Belt) +3 (Homam Legs) +3 (Homam Feet) = 20% What am I missing?

    2. Turban is better looking than the Gold-trimmer Mercedes on your noggin!

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars
    my nin uses usu head over turban because with MY NIN's attacking speed, i'll pick 7 acc 3 str over 2% haste

    my drk and etc job will use askar over turban because turban is ugly & im still cap 25% haste ,with apoc, with or without a turban
    1. 25% Haste? 4 (Askar) +4 (Dusk +1) +6 (Speed Belt) +3 (Homam Legs) +3 (Homam Feet) = 20% What am I missing?
    Cata haste.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars
    my nin uses usu head over turban because with MY NIN's attacking speed, i'll pick 7 acc 3 str over 2% haste

    my drk and etc job will use askar over turban because turban is ugly & im still cap 25% haste ,with apoc, with or without a turban
    1. 25% Haste? 4 (Askar) +4 (Dusk +1) +6 (Speed Belt) +3 (Homam Legs) +3 (Homam Feet) = 20% What am I missing?
    Cata haste.
    Duh. Cool, thanks.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Quote Originally Posted by Mugmug
    4 ACC > 4 DEX for anything endgame, and for lower level stuff W.Turban > both.

    I've been on break awhile, but I remember DEX working in tiers. 4 DEX would still add to your critical%, but in a standard build like most DRKs use it would add maybe 0.25%? Ruke (I believe it was him) tested a DEX build on his SAM last year sometime and showed how it worked in brackets.

    At the end of the day, it doesn't matter though. Not many pieces of gear really make an impact on your performance. Just bored and thought I'd post.
    It probably would have been better if you stayed bored and didn't post. Askar and Ace's are both better than Turban, hell, I would use Usukane over Turban if they ever add a loot table to Hammerblow.

    Edit: You might have missed that the person you are talking about has an E. Body and an Apoc. Accuracy, though important, is perhaps not the largest of his concerns.

    Edit 2: Ace's looks cooler than Askar. >.>; *hides*
    Yeah because when your acc is 95% you really need a little STR over Haste. I'm not just referring to DRK either. Just saying in general theres never a situation I'd use Askar over Aces on DRK/DRG/SAM. For Warrior I can see where Askar could be used over Turban, but not for DRK. On easy stuff I'd use Turban over Askar on WAR though.

    My linkshell has two pimped out Apoc DRKs (E.body, V.Belt, Aces, etc) and both think Askar is shit, but hey I should stop posting because your opinion is somehow better than mine. Also if you think Apoc takes away your ACC needs then you're wrong.

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    :nikkei:

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    Re: Stage 5 - Completed Relic Weapons List

    thats pretty close to as good as a bst can get. grats if thats a new relic or whatever.

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