[Valefor, Shiva] Cahira (Stina)

[jk777]

Any information on her or even on the past shells she ran? She was on Shiva then moved to Valefor.

I do know she ran an HNM shell on both old servers and has 2 Stage 2 Relics.

Thank you

[jk777]

Sorry should read [Valefor, Shiva] Cahira (Stina)

[Reapz]

If this is Stina from Valefor then I thought he/she was awesome, wasn't in my LS but just seemed like a nice and funny person and I exp'd with him/her a few times

[ShadyLurker]

She started a linkshell: HNM/Sky/Dynamis. At first, it wasn't bad, the theory of her styling of a point based linkshell sounded perfect actually. But alas, things started getting messy, allowing certain people in the linkshell who were shady, showing favoritism, and people becoming greedy(although this is not her fault). However, she let everything continue the way it was, and she had a small group of dedicated members, and sackholders, who happened to be afk during sky farming and HNM camp getting a time of death on a lesser HNM with money drops. She then preceeded to kick them from the linkshell and alot of other people who were friends of the sacks left. The loss of a numerous amount of members forced the leader (Stina) to "Cash out" those members that left with the points they earned from the linkshell bank. Two particular members had upwards of 750k in linkshell points to be cashed out. Stina then decided that it would be "cleaver" to purchase 4 timeless hourglasses to drop the value of the linkshell bank to where the two particular members recieved a signifigantly reduced "cash out." Three weeks later, the linkshell had an epic phail at Fafnir, and I do mean EPIC, because the whm's and rdm's that were "recruited" tried to DoT it to death so they couldnt sleep it. Stina had one of many meltdown and broke the linkshell and jumped ship to start anew I suppose. All in all, she's very shady and can't not be overly emotional and starts a ton of drama, watch your nuts.


The End

[kickinwing]

Having been a member of her shell on Valefor, I can let you in on a few of my experiences.

I got into the shell about a month after its creation.

She ran a point based LS, points split between sky and hnm. There was a ventrilo server where people talked.

HNM points could be bid on hnm or dynamis drops, all runs were sponsored by LS bank. People would bid points on items they wanted, but certain items had job priority (regardless of points). Meaning that a DRK who wanted heca body couldn't get it until all the thieves in LS had one already, including thieves who joined after said DRK (sour grapes? perhaps).

Stina has a young daughter who often requires her attention (a two year old running around while mommy is playing video games sometimes gets needy for attention). Events and camps were sometimes canceled or cut short due to this.

She (in my opinion) played favorites with people in the LS, when i had joined, there were several members on the website roster who i hadn't seen around. When some of them tried to come to events they were told not to come (usually camps where they wanted something or a dynamis they needed). Some of the members were deleted from the website, along with points, leaving them unable to cash out points when they left the LS. However, other members who were unable to play themselves were left on the list and were bitched about by stina and other members when someone else logged them in to bid their earned points on items they wanted for when they got back. One member was banned for accidentially AOE at fafnir, but another member wasn't banned (or even visibly chastised) for going afk as main healer in tank party in the middle of someone elses KS99 wyrm orb.

Stina would often bid high on items she didn't really want so that people couldn't get them for a low amount of points (ex. kirin osode).

Certain events transpired after she wound up booting her two sackholders for being afk at KA looking for ToD while there was a sky run planned. She then invited them back to LS, but for the desire for not wanting to have to worry about being booted for being afk, they declined and started a new shell. Stina told the rest of the members that they had been booted for being 'not team players' and selfish. About ten other people left, being friends of or having been recruited by the sackholders, leaving the LS crippled. Some of the people still in LS told those who left what was going on, and basically stina was lying to her LS about why people had left.

She had also mentioned spending the bank money on dynamis glasses so that the people who left wouldn't get their fairly earned shares of the LS bank, nobody is really sure if this happened, but all of those who had a chance to cash out (some members reported not getting responses to tells) got about 1/2 of what the website indicated they should've gotten. She had attempted to rebuild the LS and badmouthed those who left to the newer members. Being unable to put up with lesser experienced players (DoT on fafnir), it seems she has given up and left servers.

At one point (assumably in response to being called a loot whore), she took pride in her crappy gear (which admittedly her blm was pretty decent), saying that a good linkshell leader should have crappy gear because all the gear goes to the members.

In my opinion, as long as she'll never be placed into a position of responsibility, she'd be a fine addition to a linkshell. She's on all the time, unless she's afk to take care of her daughter, and will show up to events.

If you need more information, feel free to ask.

[Stina]

Ok, I'm going to post a single topic here and i'll let you guys take it however you want..but first let me grab a smoke XD
Ok im set: i'm going to state my linkshell website- www,zenmetsu-valefor.com, which will be defunct as of 5/1 so please, view "FAQ" under "Forum" before you read ahead, so you may see my rules and lotting system.
Alright, I will assume all have read and understood my past Linkshell's lotting priority. The entire BASIS of the linkshell's lotting system negates any type of favoritism. There was a 4 week waiting time for any members that joined for sky items, and a similiar wait for any members who wanted any item from hnm. The said member could than bank their points (barring cashouts) for use for lotting when the time was appropriate. I can see how long they have been a member by looking up the date they registered for use on website.
Everthing was public knowledge, the linkshell bank, everyone's points, what people spent points on, how often they attended events, etc. There was nothing hidden to allow even a remote possibility of favoritism.
I have NEVER denied anyone access to ANYTHING. My shell was max, 25? members approx, I did not even have the luxury to say "no, we dont need you".
As far as bidding on Kirin's Osode, I have 2 jobs that can utilize it...and of course im going to spend my points on it lol - I'm no exception to the rules of the linkshell. If a person puts in their time, they deserve the item that they desire. (id also like to note here that I did not recieve any sky item [except a-head] because I always passed to members, I am a firm believer in NOT gearing the leader. It doesnt look right.
There was 2 seperate events that transpired that I felt it was time to remove the said members - the first time was at HNM camp for Fafnir, when they were camping KA for themselves (keep in mind I do register KA as a 'hnm' since it does drop money and a possibility for a valuable item). These members neglected to leave KA at the linkshell's request because "we did not have a rdm present at fafnir". While that statement is true, why do they feel that they have the obligation to continue doing what they are doing, and NOT being there at Fafnir, waiting with the rest of the shell? There is NO FAVORITISM in my shell, if there was favoritism I would of allowed them to continue doing what they were doing.
The event that sealed the deal was when they were again, at KA while the rest of the linkshell was struggling in sky with low numbers, again. Wether they were afk or not, they had the ability to utilize a secondary character for ToD - and make themselves available for the linkshell readily when they returned from being AFK.
In order to avoid making this an incredibaly long post (which it already is), Ill just summarize events that transpired post-loss of 12 or 15 members after I kicked the 2 sacks for doing the above actions.
-Yes I was crippled from that loss. But in my eyes, id rather be crippled with members that are honest, than be full of members who are out for themselves.
-I did NOT leave server with any items or gil. All of old Zenmetsu's items are still on Valefor, waiting for use from the linkshell members that are still there.
Please feel free to PM me for any more infomation, I wont bore you anymore with events from the past.
And kick - you joined my linkshell AFTER your old one broke. Zenmetsu on Valefor has been kicking since September of 2007, and died April of 2008.

[Devia]

To the OP: Why do a BC? You aren't leader of any LS she has applied to, are you?

[Doofus]

Haven't we established by now that anyone from zenmetsu should be a no? Maybe i'm reading a different forum but thats what it appears like to me.

[Hoodrider]

Haven't we established by now that anyone from zenmetsu should be a no? Maybe i'm reading a different forum but thats what it appears like to me.

Stina is cool had problems with her at first but we straighten that out shes not a bad person at all.

[Lexa]

Zenmetsu = shit.

Stina = Zenmetsu = shit.

Zenmetsu bragged about getting a member temp banned, would practice outright steals at HNM camps, talked shit on every other ls on their server on their front page (class act), cried bots and cussed people out every time they got outclaimed on something, then cried when their biggest douchebag got banhammered.

Please accept this trash, we dun want it on Valefor.

[Tricen]

lol Who was the biggest douchebag?

[ShadyLurker]

See, I really didn't want you to reply to this, but your self delusion is simply stunning.

First of all, I left on good terms, I wasn't playing much, I was taking a break. I come back, figure I need a break from HNM scene and just chill with friends. Then I hear about you pulling shit with hourglasses and other peoples hard earned points, and don't tell me you didn't because I know what they got and I've seen chat logs(not the daymos kind). Needless to say, I was in awe.

Well I got over it for a bit until I started getting /tell and emotes from people new in your ls, who I don't know, and who don't really know what happened apparently they were either creating their own story or were told something else, I could care less, but, I just can't sit here and let you manufacuture your own fairy tale to make you not look like such a scumbag.


Secondly, the little stuff. The "KA campers" were afk, doing rl shit and there is such a thing as timestamp and estimating a ToD from that. However, you decided to jump to conclusions and make a rash decision, crippling your own linkshell and you knew it when you did it.

By the by, what ever happened to those timeless hourglasses, 4 of them I believe?

[Stina]

-Private Messaged Shadylurker because I needed to use names -

[amentis]

Zenmetsu = shit.

Stina = Zenmetsu = shit.

Zenmetsu bragged about getting a member temp banned, would practice outright steals at HNM camps, talked shit on every other ls on their server on their front page (class act), cried bots and cussed people out every time they got outclaimed on something, then cried when their biggest douchebag got banhammered.

Please accept this trash, we dun want it on Valefor.

QFT. Regardless of how cool a person Stina is or is not (I have 0 personal experience with him/her), she was the shell holder of Zenmetsu, was she not?

Zenmetsu was the iconic dickhole/botting/rude/noob LS. I have yet to meet ANYONE who has had a good experience with them. The stories from Aery involving them are hilarious.
So, imo, a big N-O on the Stina. Anyone involved with Zenmetsu, ESPECIALLY the shell holder, had to be at least one of the following:

1: Extremely Naive
2: Extremely Unscrupulous
3: Extremely retarded.

[Reapz]

Hey Amentis! You ok ma fran?

[amentis]

Yes I am! I just got Lolnashira boots and Lolgoliard cowboy hat in one day!

I never see you around anymore.
But let's not derail this delightful defamation of someone's character.

[Minnich]

Most of the people in Zenmetsu are garbage. So what does that make the leader of a bunch of garbage?

Then again I'm the leader of a bunch of Retards like Reapz, so what does that make me?

[Vorta]

To the OP: Why do a BC? You aren't leader of any LS she has applied to, are you?

Heya Devia

Since getting feedback on members from different servers can take a little time, we continue BC during probation period for new members who came from different servers.

The OP is from our shell.

-V

[Unbeatable Taru]

Being one of the sackholders who was kicked for camping KA, id like to say that first off that zen was supposed to be a small ls as i recalled being told. And there were 48 registered members when i got kicked.

Secondly Justen and I camped KA by ourselves for 2 straight months everyday, why would we bank the money to the LS when no one ever came to help out.

First Failed Fafnir Before we got kicked/Cerb
Thirdly that Fafnir where u kicked whitetiger... comon.... he is not the reason we lost that, it was the tanks fault for not staying engaged as i clearly was yelling at them to do so. And also id like to throw in the last cerb we did where u went out of stun order when we had 3 stunners and tried to say we recovered from it when we wiped right after... you always seemed to blame the people who were not directly responsible for certain errors... I know we all make mistakes but if you make one own up to it.

And going back to the fafnir... While we were at KA i remember you telling the 8 ppl in the LS at the time to go to faf(4blm, pld, brd, justen:thf, me:blm) there is no way you cud take fafnir with that so why waste your time? just get tod. Anyway to continue we stayed at KA for the reason of not embarrassing ourselves by trying to claim with that. So once we finally got enough on to take it we were about to leave KA when we got de-sacked. wtf seriously.
We stayed the rest of KA after that then went to Fafnir.... And if i remember correctly we got bitched at up until the point where i claimed it. Sound about right?

Fafnir #2 where we got kicked
We went to sky early to farm diorites since we werent going to be at the farm(about 4 hours of diorite farming)
Went afk at KA to get tod and came back to being kicked from vent and the LS... i mean seriously... kicking afk ppl because you think they are actually there?

And as to Lexa... dont get me started on your LS. Cus i remember camping Vivian for about 9 hours and when i finally get it to pop and we start to get set for the fight, a thf and whm from ur ls claimed it with ranged from the other hall while running to fafnir. Nice LS you got there.

[Makaras]

Ouch Whitetiger, being booted from Zenmetsu for being incompetent, that is like getting kicked out of the Special Olympics for being retarded, but I digress...

Ever since I have seen Zenmetsu on my server I have seen wave after wave of stupid petty drama, and they somehow always seem to be near it and more often than not the source of it. If i were your LS I would read all of the posts on this thread, take half of them seriously, and then have your LS read the half you jotted down. After this I would take a blind vote, and if you end up with as much as one "Yes" vote I would immediately break the shell and start all over again. This person will be a guaranteed negative not only to your shell, but also to your server they publicly carry on drama with other shells and the very person who is applying to your shell is the very same person who perpetuates and moderates the drama on their website. I would just direct you to only reading the public posts that were made on their website's frontpage, but they have been conveniently deleted.