Possible list of LSs who do not charge for BB items?

[Tomiko]

We're more likely to give it to you if there are multiple people asking, if you, for example, gave us an accurate ToD of turtle on a non-HQ day when we weren't there for some reason.

Quit paying off all my Valley friends to leave me!

On topic: I don't know if they still do it, but Wabo LS on Unicorn gave away extra items when I was still on the server.

[Neosutra]

I was hoping for a list of LSs that would also be willing to give away Ridills, W.legs, Haidates, and V.belts as long as no one really needs them.

I'd have to really disagree with that. As I stated before, the Black Belt is indeed HNM gear, but it's pretty straight forward as it's JSE. Last time I checked Ridill, Algol, w/a/d/ anything, kitty pants, and items like v. belts were not. Besides, this thread about MNKs and their access to Black Belt items. There really isn't a point in trying to bring anything else into the equation.

Black Belt items =/= the things you listed in your post.

Ridill is WAR JSE. And BB arguably has more effect on a MNK than a Ridill has on a WAR.

Search for LS's doing KS99. You have a much better chance of getting one for free that way than you do camping kings for it.

Ridill's are not JSE. If I remember correctly, THF, DRK, BST, RNG, and SAM can all equip it. And I totally agree with you that a Black Belt has a great effect on MNKs.

I do apprecaite your suggestion regarding the KS99s. This is something I'm going to look into when I'm able to find LSs on my server that does a lot of runs. ^^

Was everyone fucking raised under power lines? No seriously, im starting to lose all hope in humanity.

[Jeho]

I was hoping for a list of LSs that would also be willing to give away Ridills, W.legs, Haidates, and V.belts as long as no one really needs them.

I'd have to really disagree with that. As I stated before, the Black Belt is indeed HNM gear, but it's pretty straight forward as it's JSE. Last time I checked Ridill, Algol, w/a/d/ anything, kitty pants, and items like v. belts were not. Besides, this thread about MNKs and their access to Black Belt items. There really isn't a point in trying to bring anything else into the equation.

Black Belt items =/= the things you listed in your post.

Ridill is WAR JSE. And BB arguably has more effect on a MNK than a Ridill has on a WAR.

Search for LS's doing KS99. You have a much better chance of getting one for free that way than you do camping kings for it.

Ridill's are not JSE. If I remember correctly, THF, DRK, BST, RNG, and SAM can all equip it. And I totally agree with you that a Black Belt has a great effect on MNKs.

I do apprecaite your suggestion regarding the KS99s. This is something I'm going to look into when I'm able to find LSs on my server that does a lot of runs. ^^

Was everyone fucking raised under power lines? No seriously, im starting to lose all hope in humanity.

Because I'm trying to help out MNKs obtain something they realistically can't on their own or even with help from their linkshell and you're (poorly) attempting to flame me for it? Awesome! I agree wholeheartedly that any endgame gear be difficult in questing it, but the Black Belt quest for MNKs is just ridiculous. If you ask most experienced people they'll say the HNM scene is pretty terrible for the most part and is in need of a huge overhaul. Do you honestly believe a MNK and eleven of his friends can just go down to Behemoth's Domain and actually get a claim against bots etc? Don't even bother mentioning KS99s either. We all know the droprate in KS99s isn't exactly favorable either so that isn't exactly a reliable way.

I'm not asking that every HNM LS out there kill HNMs just to give the Black Belt items to MNKs they see wandering around; I'm just asking if it's not too much trouble and if the item isn't needed by anyone in the LS to just help a fellow player if the item isn't needed. If a MNK is willing to trade gil, that's their prerogative. I think it would be totally sensible to trade around 100k per item. But 2 million for each item? That's just wrong and skates along the lines of RMT practices.

Would you think it ridiculous if RDM75 sat at the mouth of Gusgen Mines and quoted a price for a subjob item to every character he sees enter without a subjob? To me it's kind of the same thing. Most LSs don't really need the Black Belt item and it stead of tossing it, give it to someone that can actually use it. If you have such a problem with my thinking regarding this matter, then sell your Black Belt items. Your claim, your kill, your choice. But don't think that everyone else has to think like you either.

Back on topic; thank you everyone for your suggestions. Holding the ToD is an awesome idea as well. I really appreciate it.

[Izzy]

[quote=Jeho]

I was hoping for a list of LSs that would also be willing to give away Ridills, W.legs, Haidates, and V.belts as long as no one really needs them.

I'd have to really disagree with that. As I stated before, the Black Belt is indeed HNM gear, but it's pretty straight forward as it's JSE. Last time I checked Ridill, Algol, w/a/d/ anything, kitty pants, and items like v. belts were not. Besides, this thread about MNKs and their access to Black Belt items. There really isn't a point in trying to bring anything else into the equation.

Black Belt items =/= the things you listed in your post.

Ridill is WAR JSE. And BB arguably has more effect on a MNK than a Ridill has on a WAR.

Search for LS's doing KS99. You have a much better chance of getting one for free that way than you do camping kings for it.

Ridill's are not JSE. If I remember correctly, THF, DRK, BST, RNG, and SAM can all equip it. And I totally agree with you that a Black Belt has a great effect on MNKs.

I do apprecaite your suggestion regarding the KS99s. This is something I'm going to look into when I'm able to find LSs on my server that does a lot of runs. ^^

Was everyone fucking raised under power lines? No seriously, im starting to lose all hope in humanity.

Because I'm trying to help out MNKs obtain something they realistically can't on their own or even with help from their linkshell and you're (poorly) attempting to flame me for it? Awesome! I agree wholeheartedly that any endgame gear be difficult in questing it, but the Black Belt quest for MNKs is just ridiculous. If you ask most experienced people they'll say the HNM scene is pretty terrible for the most part and is in need of a huge overhaul. Do you honestly believe a MNK and eleven of his friends can just go down to Behemoth's Domain and actually get a claim against bots etc? Don't even bother mentioning KS99s either. We all know the droprate in KS99s isn't exactly favorable either so that isn't exactly a reliable way.

I'm not asking that every HNM LS out there kill HNMs just to give the Black Belt items to MNKs they see wandering around; I'm just asking if it's not too much trouble and if the item isn't needed by anyone in the LS to just help a fellow player if the item isn't needed. If a MNK is willing to trade gil, that's their prerogative. I think it would be totally sensible to trade around 100k per item. But 2 million for each item? That's just wrong and skates along the lines of RMT practices.

Would you think it ridiculous if RDM75 sat at the mouth of Gusgen Mines and quoted a price for a subjob item to every character he sees enter without a subjob? To me it's kind of the same thing. Most LSs don't really need the Black Belt item and it stead of tossing it, give it to someone that can actually use it. If you have such a problem with my thinking regarding this matter, then sell your Black Belt items. Your claim, your kill, your choice. But don't think that everyone else has to think like you either.

Back on topic; thank you everyone for your suggestions. Holding the ToD is an awesome idea as well. I really appreciate it.[/quote149sc66]
Because you're not getting it, I'm going to say it straight up to you with no sarcastic tone.

He's saying that the past couple posts toward you were very sarcastic. I was personally joking about the "Ridill is WAR JSE" because for the longest time, Ridill was WAR ONLY when it dropped. Neosutra's comment toward you was because you totally missed the sarcastic undertone of my post, (aka. wooshed) and was trying to figure out why so many people are getting easily wooshed these days.

No one is criticizing your posts or ideals. I'm actually more offended that I just had to type all that.

[Jeho]

Because you're not getting it, I'm going to say it straight up to you with no sarcastic tone.

He's saying that the past couple posts toward you were very sarcastic. I was personally joking about the "Ridill is WAR JSE" because for the longest time, Ridill was WAR ONLY when it dropped. Neosutra's comment toward you was because you totally missed the sarcastic undertone of my post, (aka. wooshed) and was trying to figure out why so many people are getting easily wooshed these days.

No one is criticizing your posts or ideals. I'm actually more offended that I just had to type all that.

So what is your point? I don't care about being wooshed or wooshing someone else. I'm bringing up an issue that SE obvioulsy needs to address and I don't need pointless attempts of dum to clutter my topic.

[Izzy]

Because you're not getting it, I'm going to say it straight up to you with no sarcastic tone.

He's saying that the past couple posts toward you were very sarcastic. I was personally joking about the "Ridill is WAR JSE" because for the longest time, Ridill was WAR ONLY when it dropped. Neosutra's comment toward you was because you totally missed the sarcastic undertone of my post, (aka. wooshed) and was trying to figure out why so many people are getting easily wooshed these days.

No one is criticizing your posts or ideals. I'm actually more offended that I just had to type all that.

So what is your point? I don't care about being wooshed or wooshing someone else. I'm bringing up an issue that SE obvioulsy needs to address and I don't need pointless attempts of dum to clutter my topic.

I give up...someone else wanna tag in?

[Attila]

Because you're not getting it, I'm going to say it straight up to you with no sarcastic tone.

He's saying that the past couple posts toward you were very sarcastic. I was personally joking about the "Ridill is WAR JSE" because for the longest time, Ridill was WAR ONLY when it dropped. Neosutra's comment toward you was because you totally missed the sarcastic undertone of my post, (aka. wooshed) and was trying to figure out why so many people are getting easily wooshed these days.

No one is criticizing your posts or ideals. I'm actually more offended that I just had to type all that.

So what is your point? I don't care about being wooshed or wooshing someone else. I'm bringing up an issue that SE obvioulsy needs to address and I don't need pointless attempts of dum to clutter my topic.

I give up...someone else wanna tag in?

What else can be said? A wave of sarcasm (not necessarily directed at the OP) came in, and the OP got knocked over by it. Be aware of the serious and not so serious things. The Ridill stuff was a joke. Don't get so offended, or you might lose some of that support you have for a well contrived OP. I am also a MNK looking for my BB Items without a shell. I got a Tongue from a friendly shell months ago, and on the tip of a friend, I 4-manned Adamantoise for my Egg. Now I sit at 69 MNK, 2/3 on my BB, with the beard of all things missing lol. Not that I'm waiting for it, I just got 69 this week, and I'll be out of town this weekend.


Edit:
To add, I have been sitting in DA on and off for a while now, and I have been in contact with most shell's leaders, and a few have pledged one to me if no members need it, Fafnir has been stingy lately, and Nid keeps getting claimed by people that need it lol.
To give an example, 1 shell sells BB items for 3 mil a pop, and they will, without hesitation, let it rot if they don't have an interested party. Another shell that doesn't camp regularly but does KS99s offered me a chance at a beard for 2 KS99 orbs, but I don't see me going that route.

[Dammerung]

I'm not asking that every HNM LS out there kill HNMs just to give the Black Belt items to MNKs they see wandering around; I'm just asking if it's not too much trouble and if the item isn't needed by anyone in the LS to just help a fellow player if the item isn't needed. If a MNK is willing to trade gil, that's their prerogative. I think it would be totally sensible to trade around 100k per item. But 2 million for each item? That's just wrong and skates along the lines of RMT practices.

I'd think 6M for a fucking amazing waist slot is a steal. Get off your ass and go make gil. Those KS99 you said suck? Go run Behe99 6 times, and hey you just got enough gil to cover the cost of the 3 pieces.. and if you get lucky and get a tongue to drop, you just saved 2M. MNK are lucky that it's 100% drop off a king, imagine how much more difficult it would be if it only had a chance to drop off king-only. Selling off abj and BB items is a way we fund other activities and gear (salvage, etc.), did you ever consider that aspect of it?

I was hoping for a list of LSs that would also be willing to give away Ridills, W.legs, Haidates, and V.belts as long as no one really needs them.

It seems most people missed the point of this.. and this is similar to asking for handouts on BB items.

[Izzy]

Another shell that doesn't camp regularly but does KS99s offered me a chance at a beard for 2 KS99 orbs, but I don't see me going that route.

We have had nothing but terrible luck getting beards from the Wyrm. The Behemoth one drops tongues like candy though.

[Attila]

Another shell that doesn't camp regularly but does KS99s offered me a chance at a beard for 2 KS99 orbs, but I don't see me going that route.

We have had nothing but terrible luck getting beards from the Wyrm. The Behemoth one drops tongues like candy though.

It's more my problem with handing a shell 2 chances at a speed belt with no guarantee of reimbursement in anyway. 1 orb is one thing. 2? nah, I don't think so.

Another friend's shell did like 15+ Wyrms one weekend a while ago, and ended up rotting a couple, but I wasn't able to be there for it. ; ; Curse my luck lol

[Jeho]

Dammerung:
I'd think 6M for a fucking amazing waist slot is a steal. Get off your ass and go make gil. Those KS99 you said suck? Go run Behe99 6 times, and hey you just got enough gil to cover the cost of the 3 pieces.. and if you get lucky and get a tongue to drop, you just saved 2M. MNK are lucky that it's 100% drop off a king, imagine how much more difficult it would be if it only had a chance to drop off king-only. Selling off abj and BB items is a way we fund other activities and gear (salvage, etc.), did you ever consider that aspect of it?

Though I agree that it's an amazing waist pice, I disagree with it being a "steal" at six million. Maybe three million tops, but hell no, not six. And you're assuming that the KS99 will be successful every run and as easy as doing a run for your LS or friends are, not every MNK has access to a skilled enough linkshell (or group of friends) that is guaranteed to win every time.

Dammerung:
It seems most people missed the point of this.. and this is similar to asking for handouts on BB items.

No, not really. It's not the same I don't think. Not really funny either.

[Dammerung]

First, you ignored the second half of the first part.

No, not really. It's not the same I don't think. Not really funny either.

Your argument is "Can I have a free handout on something you don't need." It's the same thing.

[Maxxthepenguin]

I was hoping for a list of LSs that would also be willing to give away Ridills, W.legs, Haidates, and V.belts as long as no one really needs them.

It seems most people missed the point of this.. and this is similar to asking for handouts on BB items.

Nope. Nobody camps KA for the Magic Cuisses, the V Belt is what people are camping for. There are reasons to camp the kings besides the BB items and that's why most people do camp them. It creates a completely different situation.

It's saying you'd rather nobody get the item than somebody who was in the killing LS unless they pay. Here's the funny thing: The only reason you got the item in the first place is likely sheer luck. On most servers, it's whoever's casting offset on their bot hits the right time to bypass claim delay. Somehow, you think that makes you totally worthy of this over other people. Yeah, sure it does. A lot of the 'hard work' you talk about is arbitrary luck.