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    Sea Torques
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    Elemental Resistance - sets, tiers?, etc

    I've been searching around and gave up at about a lil over a half an hour. There's something I don't like about BG's search functions. Digging into the old pages with crtl+f seemed to work better. I'm looking for knowledge and advice on resistance builds. This has been asked before, but normally in the context of having barspells and carols up. And there don't seem to be anything in the realm of mechanics posted, only general (albeit good) advice, for tanking sets.

    I was just looking to see if I could come up with any set worthwhile solo, ie Genbu. With current things I have, and things I can easily obtain, I can get up to +166 water resist. I don't know if it'll make any difference at all. I wouldn't have access to barspells or carols. This gear would be automatically macro'ed in when kiting. Anyway, moving on, if people can help it I'd like responses more geared in the direction of elemental resist on a player, versus a mob's spell--mechanics if possible--rather than any talk about Genbu.

    Talking to a pretty good tank on my server, he was mentioning that he believed elemental resist as being tiered. IE, at certain points, increasing a resist stat by 1 would increase the probability that you'd 1/2, 1/4, etc, resist a mob spell would increase by a certain %. Additional points will do nothing until the next tier is broken. Something like that. Of course, I suppose this wouldn't be universal given other elements that could come into play such as the type of mob, the element of the day, the level of the mob or player, etc.

    Sorry to be a pain and ask this. I can always go out and sort of test it on non-HNM mobs (or in ballista?) first. But... any ideas/advice? Would +166 versus a God be utterly useless?

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    Re: Elemental Resistance - sets, tiers?, etc

    200ish doesn't resist suzy's chainspell worth a shit, 250+ does, /shrug. I'd assume that 166 is near worthless, but if you're kiting you should never have any problem outrunning his spells anyway. Before someone else points it out, I know you said you didn't want a specific discussion on Genbu, but that's all I can really contribute to this thread. In my experience, different moves have different magic accuracy even from the same monster, and pinpointing a monster's m.acc to do any tests involving resist tiers would be obscenely difficult. You could repeat tests on the same mob and find out if it has tiers, but there isn't really a valid way to find the mob's magic accuracy to see if said tiers are the same for a different mob with different m.acc and different elemental spells.

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    Re: Elemental Resistance - sets, tiers?, etc

    My general advice would be if you can't get at least 200, you'd probably be better off stacking MDB and -magic damage gear.

    As for tiers, on Ouryu the other day I noticed a significant difference between 294 and 304 resist. At 304 I was taking a consistent 21 from his normal air attacks, whereas with 294 I was taking 41 with the occasional 175.

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    Re: Elemental Resistance - sets, tiers?, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Foustian
    My general advice would be if you can't get at least 200, you'd probably be better off stacking MDB and -magic damage gear.

    As for tiers, on Ouryu the other day I noticed a significant difference between 294 and 304 resist. At 304 I was taking a consistent 21 from his normal air attacks, whereas with 294 I was taking 41 with the occasional 175.
    Phalanx 2?

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    Re: Elemental Resistance - sets, tiers?, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenmonk
    Quote Originally Posted by Foustian
    My general advice would be if you can't get at least 200, you'd probably be better off stacking MDB and -magic damage gear.

    As for tiers, on Ouryu the other day I noticed a significant difference between 294 and 304 resist. At 304 I was taking a consistent 21 from his normal air attacks, whereas with 294 I was taking 41 with the occasional 175.
    Phalanx 2?
    No, I pay attention when I'm tanking major mobs. I would've noticed if I had Phalanx on me.

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    Sea Torques
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    Re: Elemental Resistance - sets, tiers?, etc

    Gah, even if I didn't spend a whole lot, I should've asked this before I spent the gilz. I'll still birng up the set and try it and see, but I probably spent like 200k on the set. Not a whole lot really, but meh.

    If/when I do this I'll let you guys know how it turned out, but I imagine it's probably going to turn out to proc resists at a very low rate, as many are predicting.

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    Re: Elemental Resistance - sets, tiers?, etc

    If you don't mind me asking, what are you planning to do on genbu? There's really no reason to ever eat any spell besides poisonga <_>

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    Re: Elemental Resistance - sets, tiers?, etc

    Didn't Ruke's original findings about fire resist on Tia etc have some finding on tiers?

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