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  1. #141
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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    I expect to win at least 1 XP scroll.

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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    I'm surprised we made it five pages in Advanced before cynicism kicked in.

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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    Guh! Not that i'll win cause i have horrible luck but.-

    1st i would take the gil
    2nd would take v. belt or the gil
    3rd probably homam legs :3

  4. #144
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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    I totally don't expect to win anything.

    Still playing with all my mules though... >.>

    Just in case.

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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    Mog Bonanza marbles available for purchase from May 16 till May 28.
    The winning numbers will be announced on June 30.
    Prizes available for collection from July 2 till July 31.
    so it takes SE one full month to randomly generate 5 numbers?

    my take on it is that it's not gonna be random and they are going to look at all the tickets and pick the combination that has the fewest occurrences for the rank 1 prize.. or possibly a combo that no one got at all.

    it would make sense for them b/c it'd be the best way to keep this under control. and the best way to milk money from us from all the new content IDs everyone would make just for this contest

  6. #146
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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    There theoretically could be a decent amount of gil going in to the servers assuming everyone chose gil.

    A ticket costs 1000 gil.
    100,000 tickets would cost 100,000,000 gil.
    For every 100,000 tickets purchased, there will be 1 rank 1 prize winner(100,000,000 total gil).
    For every 100,000 tickets purchased, there will be 9 rank 2 prize winners(90,000,000 total gil).
    For every 100,000 tickets purchased, there will be 90 rank 3 prize winners(90,000,000 total gil).
    For every 100,000 tickets purchased, there will be 900 rank 4 prize winners(90,000,000 total gil).

    That's a 370,000,000 gil awarded per 100,000,000 gil invested in tickets, or 3,700 gil per every 1,000 gil ticket. However, FFXI doesn't have a large enough playerbase to make this reliable. The variance is too high and the lottery results are going to be extremely random.

    It's not economically feasible to exploit this. If you tried you would have to purchase 100,000 lottery tickets to be completely safe. A single account is capable of acquiring 160 tickets, thus 625 accounts would be needed. A trial account can be started for $2, so a total of $1250 is needed to start all of the required accounts. The trial periods expire at the end of the month which explains the large time gap between entering and claiming the reward. You'd have to do a monthly payment on 625 accounts with 16 characters ($17468.75) and another monthly payment on anywhere between 7 and 625 accounts with an undetermined amount of characters($????), although it would probably be best to just ditch most of the rank 4 prize winners. Ideally you would net $11337.30 worth of gil(based on current mogs prices), not even enough to cover the first monthly fee. RMT farmers actually sell their gil to retailers for much cheaper than what you pay, so I can't say how much money they'd actually get from 270M gil. This doesn't factor in the price of labor either(good luck leveling 10,000 accounts to level 5) and any other kind of profit loss that I haven't thought about. Either way, it's completely impractical.

    Anyways... It should have been blatantly obvious they weren't using a traditional lottery system. I wouldn't even agree that thinking so would be 'correct assumption' in this case. I'm totally buying 10 of the same ticket and hoping my number wins rank 1. I'd send mules with gil to 16 different serves and buy dynamis currency then bring them back and finish a shitload of relics all at once.

  7. #147
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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin
    I'm fully expecting to win fourth prize!

    But not much else. 8)
    Quote Originally Posted by Johyo
    From the OP from pol.com

    A concentrated offensive is the most fundamental military strategy! Ten marbles for number 11111 shall be my pick!
    Elvaan gentleman, knight. Port San d'Oria (I-9)
    I saw this, but don't find it all too convincing lol.. Although they'd probably get a lot of shit for misleading people with it, if they really did.

    I'm all for it being safe to assume, but I'm just skeptical still.
    Unless the order matters as well, then it would eliminate all possibility of it being a drawing of number. Such as if you banking that there is going to be a 1 in the drawing, but no sure which digit it is going to be, so you place 11111 so that you have 50% chance of winning the lowest prize.

    So there can be 2 possibilities, one being that it can be all 10 numbers for all 5 digits. Another being that it can be a drawing but you must have the right order of number. Either way will provide pretty much the rarety SE wants for the best prize.

  8. #148
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tajin
    SE jumped the shark finally!

    My post is to be taken 30% joy 50% Bitching because they still cant recover my friend acct. (though it was his fault yeah yeah etc.) and 20% captain obvious.
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._the_shark.PNG

    Ey. The Fonz agrees.



    I like the fact that a Rank 3 win could get me a Seveneyes. Lol @ Homam Pants being placed in that Rank tho, since we all know it's the best piece of the five on every job that can equip.

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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    The conditions for winning are as follows:
    Rank 1 prize: all five digits.
    Rank 2 prize: last four digits.
    Rank 3 prize: last three digits.
    Rank 4 prize: last two digits.
    Rank 5 prize: last digit.
    Incoming shitstorm of people that get all but the middle digit.

    example:
    Your numbers: 41242
    SE draws: 41342

    And you'd only get rank4 ...

    Imagine how much that would suck.

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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    You could activate all those accounts under the trial. Purchase tickets, then deactivate. Only activate winning accounts. Profit!

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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    Quote Originally Posted by byte
    SE is really dumb for not making this lv70+, especially considering all of the prizes other than gil are endgame.. then again RMT would STILL win because they'd just go on another account hacking spree. Fuckers.
    Moldavite Earring, Empress Hairpin, Leaping Boots and Rain Hat is the secret to killing AV. He'll insta-die if you wear them all at once.

    I think they should have increased the level limit because level 5 is stupidly easy to get to for RMT, but 70+ is just completely ridiculous.

    You just have a sandy vag because you have to share the chance of winning with more people.

  12. #152
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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    this will be the gilbuyers new way of hiding their bought gil, instead of a friend quitting or gardening. I WON THE LOTTERY!

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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    Quote Originally Posted by Popsiclestick
    You could activate all those accounts under the trial. Purchase tickets, then deactivate. Only activate winning accounts. Profit!
    lmao, good idea! That would be nightmarish to manage though.

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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    [quote="Lexa"]

    Moldavite Earring, Empress Hairpin, Leaping Boots and Rain Hat is the secret to killing AV. He'll insta-die if you wear them all at once.

    Iquote]


    thats a neat trick where ya hiding the hairpin?

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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    If RMT really do start this (and probably even if they don't) the price on this item is going to fucking sky rocket:
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=16690&sid=22

    The best weapon for MNK 1-5? And MNK is the best/quickest job 1-5?

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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    Wow just wow. Not the extremely happy kind but pessimistic.

    I'm sure all the winners will be like rank 4 nubs with 1 job at 60 after 1 year+ of playing and 3/5 AF. Or someone even less deserving.

    But that wouldn't be much different then ffxi anyway when someone could work for an item/a somthing for 3 years or more and just have shitty 'luck' while another guy could play for 2 months and be 1/1.

    I never imagined they would do this, but I guess hats off too them cause it will make them $$$. People will probably make extra accounts for this even, max mules, and will have to keep them for 2 months to even know if they won.

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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)


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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    Well, at least this event will make it easier for me to get Dusk Gloves +1. Someday soon.

    :bagel:

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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    SE might as well just offer a service that allows people to buy gil directly from them.

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    Re: Mog Bonanza Kicking-off May 16! (04/30/2008)

    Actually they'll be taking a lot of money out of circulation with this little stunt. Figure people have an average of 2 mules + main character, 10 marbles per for 1000 gil each, thats 30k per person. 30k per person with some 5000 people per server, 32 servers, thats 4,800,000,000 gil.

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