05/02/2008 The Myriad Arms of Balrahn

[Genosync]

Didn't really see this mentioned but the background behind the "Myriad Arms of Balrahn" text shows a picture large gate/door:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/Enpsi/wpbg02.gif

Almost makes it undeniable for me that the "Runic key" key item is used as an 'ingredient' in some way. Getting a Runic key for each member of your static would be the annoyingly frustrating part out the way that makes all relics so ...

I don't want to say it, but shit. That's actually a decent possibility. Fucking hell.

[Imitarate]

This makes a nigh-depressing amount of sense. Given the timeline involved, they could very well have been planning that the whole time. They introduced the weapons when they released nyzul, yes? Then sometime later, oh btw winning floor 100 gives you this key item... which just HAPPENS to make floor 100 drop your job's weapon and does nothing else? Very, very suspicious.

[Kaylia]

I hope the upgrade involve a fight on those 3 stone tablet islands. I really want to go there...

[Xno Kappa]

The items used for the upgrade can only be found on a desolate island filled with AV-Class HNM's. The only possible means of getting to said island is by breeding a gold chocobo.

[Max™]

Whoa whoa whoa whoa...

You're supposed to breed the chocobo's with other chocobo's?

Not breed with chocobo's?

FUCK!

No wonder it never worked.

[PeaceNLove]

Hilarious.

[Ashira]

This makes a nigh-depressing amount of sense. Given the timeline involved, they could very well have been planning that the whole time. They introduced the weapons when they released nyzul, yes? Then sometime later, oh btw winning floor 100 gives you this key item... which just HAPPENS to make floor 100 drop your job's weapon and does nothing else? Very, very suspicious.

Which was said about 3 pages ago... or so.. maybe 5. About how you'd have to have a runic key to upgrade a weapon; maybe not necessarily have had to have gotten a weapon drop WITH that runic key, but yeah, that you'd have to have one.

[Eleidon]

Did anyone else catch this?

History teaches us that the misuse or misappropriation of weapons of this magnitude can only lead the most disastrous of consequences. We can only pray that a threat so great as to warrant their consideration for use ->will ever cast its shadow<- over our Aht Urhgan.

"Our Aht Urhgan", indeed. I would have expected Halver to be a bit more subtle about his hatred, though.

[ronin sparthos]

Perhaps its been said once or perhaps multiple times but with this 'omg Balrahn' fun shit coming out next update:

SPLIT NYZUL AND SALVAGE MMK?

[Jkun]

Or make Salvage free, problem solved. Wasting 1.5k AP and getting 0 drops from all the QQs in Arrafaggo isn't exactly my idea of points well spent.

[Therin]

Did anyone else catch this?

History teaches us that the misuse or misappropriation of weapons of this magnitude can only lead the most disastrous of consequences. We can only pray that a threat so great as to warrant their consideration for use ->will ever cast its shadow<- over our Aht Urhgan.

"Our Aht Urhgan", indeed. I would have expected Halver to be a bit more subtle about his hatred, though.

So clever, you.

[Kaylia]

Or make Salvage free, problem solved. Wasting 1.5k AP and getting 0 drops from all the QQs in Arrafaggo isn't exactly my idea of points well spent.

I've said that for 1 years until we get 5 body in 10 arrapago run (+2 marduk body in 4 zhay run). Salvage drop rate is fine...you will get your item within 6-12 months, which is normal when you compare it to land king, sea or sky (many years ago)

[Jkun]

Or make Salvage free, problem solved. Wasting 1.5k AP and getting 0 drops from all the QQs in Arrafaggo isn't exactly my idea of points well spent.

I've said that for 1 years until we get 5 body in 10 arrapago run (+2 marduk body in 4 zhay run). Salvage drop rate is fine...you will get your item within 6-12 months, which is normal when you compare it to land king, sea or sky (many years ago)

Timeframe isn't the problem, especially when things like bodies require a lot of effort on the ingots side alone. However there are dry runs where nothing will drop, not including forcepops, 100%s or bosses, which are usually targetted specifically for certain people. If these new weapons require items/currency (lol) from Salvage, -and- for the owner of a Nyzul weapon to have a Runic Key, the timeframe to get both and keep up with Assault Points/tags for entry is huge. Then again, comapared to Dynamis relic, SE can slap on the usual "these items weren't meant for everyone" phrase, and we can all get along with our lives.

gdi I hate speculations, and how lucky you were with drops. D:

[LinktheDeme]

"Aht Urgan Chocobo are pure bred noble animals.Their galloping speed is unmatched througout the entire Vanadiel. What?! You wish to challenge the pride of the near east? Very well then if you wish to be proven wrong, the entrance fee to the next Chocobo Derby is 1000 Imperial Gold Pieces."

I know that isn't real, but I fucking raged reading that.

It's funny cause its probably gonna happen and you'll probably lose at least 5 times ;3

[Croaker]

I recall that I read somewhere in a fanfestival report that the new relics would be less powerful than the old relics. This report also stated that old relics would be getting a boost in power to allow room for the new relics.

Does anyone comfirm this or did I dream it? I can't find the source anymore.

[ronin sparthos]

I recall that I read somewhere in a fanfestival report that the new relics would be less powerful than the old relics. This report also stated that old relics would be getting a boost in power to allow room for the new relics.

Does anyone comfirm this or did I dream it? I can't find the source anymore.

I heard the same thing, pretty sure that was at fanfest.

[orson]

Lame, I was reading some of the last interviews at fanfest and not sure if anyone remembered this but I sure didn't.

What is the effect or purpose of the Nyzul Isle weapons?
While still a few updates off, these items will be an ingredient to be used in new relic weapons with all new weapon skills.

I was really hoping the new WSs would have been learned separately.

I can't find anywhere about what they said about buffing exist relic weapons.

[ringthree]

I asked the same question and I was at the fan fest. I never remembered hearing them say anything about boosting the old relics. I don't even know if they said anything about the comparative strength of the relics.

[Seraphus]

Lame, I was reading some of the last interviews at fanfest and not sure if anyone remembered this but I sure didn't.

What is the effect or purpose of the Nyzul Isle weapons?
While still a few updates off, these items will be an ingredient to be used in new relic weapons with all new weapon skills.

I was really hoping the new WSs would have been learned separately.

I can't find anywhere about what they said about buffing exist relic weapons.

The WS's are going to be learned seperately, because if you watch the WoTG trailer, the weapon skills that the characters are using are holding weapons that look nothing like the ones here.

Paladin using Company sword (or espadon, etc)
Warrior using a regular great axe
so on and so forth

[orson]

Lame, I was reading some of the last interviews at fanfest and not sure if anyone remembered this but I sure didn't.

What is the effect or purpose of the Nyzul Isle weapons?
While still a few updates off, these items will be an ingredient to be used in new relic weapons with all new weapon skills.

I was really hoping the new WSs would have been learned separately.

I can't find anywhere about what they said about buffing exist relic weapons.

The WS's are going to be learned seperately, because if you watch the WoTG trailer, the weapon skills that the characters are using are holding weapons that look nothing like the ones here.

Paladin using Company sword (or espadon, etc)
Warrior using a regular great axe
so on and so forth

If the Nyzul relics are like the originals we may be able to unlock the WSs before actually finishing the weapon though. Also SE can easily change the .dats, heck, they might not have had the weapon models done before showing the WSs. I really hope you're right but atm the only word from SE is that they will be attached to the new relics.