KC DRK before and after

[Titanss]

^ that is a good setup so far, there is a neck that drops from a antican in west altep that has 30hp >mp or something that would be the better option, or the assault one

[RKenshin]

Gloom breastplate is the best 'enhances souleater' option IMO, since it allows you to max out on haste.

And yeah, I prefer /DRG. I think that it's the best choice for zergs.

I haven't used jumps since I heard about BW not working during them though after a ninja patch, but I never confirmed it for myself. Has anyone else?

[Drunkenmonk]

they dont stack, popped a 799 jump to open on DL and dropped into yellow

[The Stig]

^ that is a good setup so far, there is a neck that drops from a antican in west altep that has 30hp >mp or something that would be the better option, or the assault one

I'll look into that. Thanks!

Gloom breastplate is the best 'enhances souleater' option IMO, since it allows you to max out on haste.

And yeah, I prefer /DRG. I think that it's the best choice for zergs.

I haven't used jumps since I heard about BW not working during them though after a ninja patch, but I never confirmed it for myself. Has anyone else?

I understand that it (Gloom Breastplate) allows one to max out haste, but because I can't do Limbus, would it be "ok" to drop 3% haste and put Sable Cuisses there and then use some other body piece instead to increase HP or Accuracy instead?

I can sub DRG too.

Just asking as although I understand I cannot be at 100% potential I would like to try and achieve the best possible within my limits until I get better gear.

[RKenshin]

Yep.

I actually still don't have a gloom breastplate, so I'm using sable.

[chapstick]

Gimp! You should get one, really easy to farm.

[Drunkenmonk]

yea 1 swift belt run i went on something like 8 drk panties dropped, of course noone needed.

[Xrave]

My dark magic gear looks like this, very old screen shot but it'll do:
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9887/drkdrkmd8.jpg

HQ AF2 legs.

Hate you.

[benjamus]

octave club anyone?

or have you written it off as a joke or toy item?

personally I have left drk at 72, and wonder what the optimal gear setup would be, or just buy a m.kris and do it right.
opinions?

[Hsieh]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...n15/5-1bv2.jpg
Jfive is a Octave Club. (galka)
I am the K club (Hsieh, elvaan)
Bahamut died in about a min.

A few things why a o club beat my k club:
-DS+Drain 2 was resisted.
-Didn't get cured or hasted when a bahamut's aoe went off.
-Went DRK/NIN instead of DRK/MNK. (shadows does crap for b v2.)
-DS+Drain 2 and Dread spikes wasted about 5-7 secs. My 2hr was still active when Feint wore.

In my opinion O club has been widely overlooked including myself and has a very great potential for zerging. Although you wear some really weird gear.

[yrpaine]

Just noting BZ wasn't mentioned here, it's also one of the top "free" options lol.

and i'd personally stick with fire bomblet over the 1% hp egg, since possibly missing 1 less hit would do more dmg than 1% more hp.

[benjamus]

Hsieh any chance of octave gear list/pic?

and while we're at it optimal gear for octave zerg?

search just brings up a bunch of people QQing about haste "nerf"
and octave is never really fully considered, though now that
there is a hard haste cap maybe LoO will get some belated attention

[Xrave]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...n15/5-1bv2.jpg
-DS+Drain 2 was resisted.
-DS+Drain 2 and Dread spikes wasted about 5-7 secs. My 2hr was still active when Feint wore.

Drain2 and Dread Spikes are pretty much worthless on B2. Chances are you'll hit stoneskin on the Drain2 since you'll be the first to touch it and during CS+Stun B2 shouldn't be hitting anyone.

If you do Dread Spikes, just cast it before you all run in since it's rare for a B2 fight to go past 30 seconds so the 10 seconds or so that wears before the fight starts isn't a real loss.

[FailureMidgard]

Out of curiosity, what is the HP difference between /drg and /mnk assuming everything else is kept constant.

Excluding the "base" non-souleater damage (Honestly not sure how high this is...), swinging 1% faster and adding 1% more HP should be the same damage return.

Going from 50% haste to 55% haste is a 11% increase in swing speed. If you gain 11% or more of your /drg HP by switching to /mnk and adding another HP earring (220 HP if you're calling 2000 your /drg base...and don't forget 35 of that you get from earring), then monk is perhaps better.

That being said, going from 75-80% is a 25% increase in swing speed. So yea, since I don't actually have DRK at 75, MNK at 37, or DRG at 37, anyone able to say what their HP is /drg and /mnk?

[RKenshin]

Naked DRK/DRG: 1379
Naked DRK/MNK: 1476

Almost 100 HP as an elvaan.

[Hsieh]

Hsieh any chance of octave gear list/pic?

and while we're at it optimal gear for octave zerg?

search just brings up a bunch of people QQing about haste "nerf"
and octave is never really fully considered, though now that
there is a hard haste cap maybe LoO will get some belated attention

O club most people don't consider them because the heavily geared 75 DRK's would not want to delvl. Also lvl 72DRK dont get any benefits from endgame gear. But that's a different story. It's still up to debate on what % a O club drk can do compared to a KC DRK at 75. The big difference is HP, merits, and gear.

LoO being camped on my server continuously now. There's about 5 octave clubs in my shell right now, but only one of them has lvl 72 DRK and geared. I could ask him what gear here wears, but he saw this post and didn't make any replies. He wore mostly HP+Haste items that you can purchase off the AH. Body was SH I believe. He was DRK/MNK I believe. Only guy in the whole alliance that had /anon. Haha.

As for casting Dread Spikes LS leader basically said ok, go in. And I was still in midcast when the zerg began. But the buffs are basically pointless against B v2 and DL.

[benjamus]

I appreciate the feedback, I only casually use octave drk for kirin
when I can make it on time, and we are just beginning to farm for
ouryu and Bv2. Also, I mainly use thf and blm so I don't keep the best gearset avaliable for something so rarely used.

from memory my gear is
octave, hp egg
ohat, chiv.chain, ethereal, intruder
drk 50 jse body, dusk hands, snipers, rajas
amemet+1, swiftbelt, royal chain pants, dusk feet

will get BQ ring and bloodbead sometime soon, and I really appreciate
any more feedback, suggestions, pics of other's gearsets so I can
maximize my usefulness. thanks guys

[chapstick]

Gigant mantle, Sipahi Zerehs(legs), and hp rings would probably be your biggest improvements, earrings are close enough, and peacock charm would be an expensive one. I'd also say, maybe use SH(+1) and AF helm instead of JSE body and Ohat. Nice HP and same accuracy there, and still get the souleater boost.

[Veneficus]

Gigant mantle, Sipahi Zerehs(legs), and hp rings would probably be your biggest improvements, earrings are close enough, and peacock charm would be an expensive one. I'd also say, maybe use SH(+1) and AF helm instead of JSE body and Ohat. Nice HP and same accuracy there, and still get the souleater boost.

Vendor or prince's slops much better than sipahi zerahs which has more hp and acc.

[chapstick]

ohh yeah, i forgot about those, was just looking for any legs with HP on them. good call ^^