Sneak and Invisible 100% effective?

[Dibble]

Wow. Just wow.

Yeah, I know. Your elite. Welcome to the *ahem* newbie/standard crap area. You are clearly out of place. In case you haven't noticed, there are 4 pages of this shit concerning the subject topic. Count them. 1 ..... 2.... 3.... 4. Since you have nothing better to offer that what I've quoted for you, and your in the *ahem* newbie/standard crap area, you should probably go and play in traffic. Darwin is waiting..... Or you could just be the helpful elitist that you know you are and answer a question.


Yeah, I've read the rules. I'm sure I'll get banned for this.

[Seditedi]

I've had it happen to me a couple times using Silent Oils in Boyahda Tree running by Robber Crabs. I used the oil well out of the aggro range of the crabs, then crossed by them and suddenly got attacked. There was no "about to wear off" message showing up or anything, and I'm absolutely certain I didn't click off on it, but nevertheless, it was clear that it aggroed through my sneak.

The Boyahda Tree is a different place. Most things in the game aggro sound + sight. Most things in tBT (lower level anyway, as I've yet to run up to the top) aggro sound + scent. Your crabs in tBT are this way.

POIDH

[isladar]

Y'all are on a fast track to a lock. Post non-anecdotal evidence or let this topic die.

[Bakthi]

You may want to keep in mind that hundreds of people run past those same crabs every day on their way to Botter's Aery, and if they're not just training, I guarantee most of them don't have Deodorize on. Sorry, but I've been around those crabs myself many times with just Sneak on. Seriously, nothing in this game aggros to smell; your aggro was something else. No, I don't know why "Detects by smell" is in the auto-translator and "Detects job abilities" isn't, because 0 mobs in the game aggro the former and several aggro the latter.

[Dibble]

I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong. But I had to check it for myself. Crabs are sneak. No deoderize needed.

[Sagacious Sundi]

So, the conclusion is that Kindred Summoners are broken and other reports are mistakes/lag/etc.? After all, most of the "Invis/Sneak screwups" seem to come from Sneak, which requires you to take off in order to reuse.

[Drex]

It could be like mamool lurkers in mamook, yag high priest in oztroja, etc., and just be one/a couple random beastmen in the zone that is/are true sight or true sound or both.

[Seditedi]

Doubt it.

[Shinta]

"Pot of Silent Oil:
This lubricant cuts down 99.99% of all friction. When applied, it can nearly erase all noise emitted from a person or object"

Is that actually true lol? 0.01% chance of getting detected ... maybe?

[Howard Roark]

I voted No, despite my own beliefs, and I did so to give my friend the benefit of the doubt -- "NO REALLY I SWEAR I HAD IT UP"

it's possible it can randomly fail but......

it just never happened to me

[Demosthenes11]

big fuck you to the people that said we just suck and weren't paying attention:

Just was climbing mountain for ENM. I actually pay attention to summoners now. I passed one, and it aggrod me. Oddly, 4 seconds later, it deaggrod me without even touching me o.O (perhaps the sneak and invis tear off aggro? lol). So I turned around, went up to it again, reaggro +2 other demon linkage >.>
No, there were no molechs on my screen until I ran away, and I'm positive none were aggrod on the way up
HAY GUYS LOOK SNEAK AND INVIS UP


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25...522_092151.png

[Izzy]

It looks like that kindred smn is broke.

[chewbar]

I've experienced this on all sorts of mobs before, especially when I'm using Spectral Jigs. Thought maybe I was experiencing weird lag or glitches but I have seen sneak/invis wearing with no warning around mobs that aren't true sight or true hearing.

[Avarice]

Happened just now. Heading to get Zypher Fan, a Kindred Summoner detected through invisible and chased me half-way around the mountain before I realized it and smacked me silly.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...y%20XI/fix.png

[Tricen]

GMs can't do anything about it <_<

[Tsukasaz]

Happened to me before in uleg as well.

[Avarice]

GMs can't do anything about it <_<

Omigosh, really?

When my friend gave me his point of view, he had just run past the Summoner that aggro'd, when all of a sudden it mysteriously started hauling ass, so he thinks it aggro'd him, but then it blazes past him and starts running towards the tunnel I had entered. This means a few things; first, I wasn't even near it when it aggro'd because as we all know, Demons have enhanced movement speed; I would have had no chance to outrun it anyway, yet it took close to a minute to "catch up" to me. Delayed aggro? Maybe it was stunned to see me? Or not see me... (I know, puns suck.)

I mean honestly, this thing has been glitched for so long, and the Development Team is too embarassed to admit it or fix it; it's just like the Shadow glitch where the BLMs with Great Swords link, but nothing else does. They're too fucking lazy.

[Clave]

I've never had it fail in a normal situation, I'd say 100% with the exception of blood aggro and TS mobs.

I've seen people mention Vivian, and I agree Vivian is just weird with its aggro. I camped it long enough to get a ring. I know it's not true sight or true sound, I've stood next to it with only sneak up and not had aggro. Then there's been another time where I was very far and got aggro with low HP. It's also aggroed through sneak with low HP. I strongly believe that it's an exception to the general morbol aggro to sound in that aggros to low HP as well, whether this is intended or not is another matter. If blood aggro is not the case, then it has some other odd aggro rules.

Maybe someone could test Kindred Summoner aggro and see if there's any discrepancies? Have a WHM buddy with Repose maybe to sleep and log out to lose aggro after testing whether they can aggro to all situations possible.

[Julian]

I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet with all the talk of taurus not losing aggro, etc.

If there is no weather up in Ulleguerand, the Taurus will chase you to the end of the world, however, if ice weather is up (single or double, doesn't matter) the taurus will easily lose track of you as soon as you're about 35~40' away from it and will deaggro and depop.

Done Ule ENM a bunch of times, never seen the smn aggro, but I don't doubt it.

[Alibeemac]

This.

I think I just deleted a screenshot of it sadly... gonna have to see if I really did. But, both sneak/invis are up, no molech aggro and a kindred summoner just starts wailing on me. Pissed me off so much that day.

This has happened to me too. No warning of it dropping, just the summoner started chasing and hitting me ~.~