Creatine use

[Denchi]

I wanna be able to do this

[Meat]

And I also read that the body stops the natural production of creatine, which is why I stopped taking it after about a month of on and off. Not sure whether or not the body keeps making it if you cycle it.

As long as you cycle it, the body will still reproduce more. Though you should still research how to cycle accordingly to your lifestyle/weight/routine.

Also, many people plateau due to lack of protein in the body. You should have a DAILY intake of like 1.5 times your weight in protein (grammes). Most people don't break 25gs. A daily schedule for protein though, in case you were wondering, should go like this: morning should be roughly 30gs with a tiny breakfast (assuming you're doing six tiny meals a day, and snacking in between meals), lots of protein before a workout (half an hour), more protein about half an hour through your workout (hour long workout, no more, no less), and lastly some protein before bed (when you sleep for six-eight hours your body obviously lacks it).

Obviously this would be pretty expensive as you're probably going to go through a jug of protein a month, as well as high in protein foods for snacking (peanut butter, tuna, lots and lots of milk), but you'll definitely get passed your plateau in a month and a half (max).
I know you didn't ask for help, but hope you were haha.

The protein before and during is debatable, but other than that rather sound advice. i find I'm better served with carbs before a workout. Speaking of he should also look to up is carb intake, if his protein intake's that low i would imagine his carbs are as well.

as for cost, try to avoid the name brand products, the muscle\cell tech shit tastes good but it's unnecessary and costly. the good news is most of the right foods for you is rather cheap(chicken breast, tuna, almonds, ect)

[melbufrauma]

ive taken diff forms i took NO-Xplode for awhile then took some other stuff by muscletech in a black bottle, then took NITROx9 and Nitro-tech Hardcore, its not main creatine but is has it in there, the only thing to worry about is make sure you drink lots of water or you will get creatinine which is a poison

[Churchill]

Try dpsnutrition.net for cheap ass shit.

And protein before is generally better, but watch your warning labels on supps, like NOXPLOD doesn't take well to mixing with any food, so yeah.

I also do like 2 spoonfuls of Wheat Germ about 30m before the gym, a little while after the protein shake.

[Woozie]

Muscletech = I can't afford it

I use GNC brand half the time <_>, though right now I have something that's actually name brand

[Beckwin]

I wanna be able to do this

stay all natural. I don't think you want to gain bulk, even if it's all muscle, to do that stuff. Google "Gym Jones", might interest you, some of the guys involved there are climbers.

Creatine was real popular when I was playing sports in high school. A couple of guys I knew who were really into it definitely got a lot stronger and did bulk up a bit. I'm not sure if it was just coincidence, but they were also pretty wear-and-tear injury prone. My view on supplements is pretty negative, but I guess if you're careful about it they can work well. And if you just wanna beef up to compliment your new haircut, then I guess go for it.

[Marsala]

Just stick to getting the protein and carbs you need. It isn't all about what you take that'll make you big. Half of the work done for building a good body is done outside the weight room, i.e. a good diet and lots of rest. If you want to take something just stick with creatine and whey protein, casein, etc.

[Plow]

after reading all these people talking about being around 6 foot and weighing less than 150, my mind hurts from thinking about people calling girls in the fod thread anorexic

[Ziphor]

edit: naw jk...


I say don't

[Blarg]

after reading all these people talking about being around 6 foot and weighing less than 150, my mind hurts from thinking about people calling girls in the fod thread anorexic

That weight and height is not underweight according to those BMI whatever tests, its actually closer to the middle of whatever the section is called between under and overweight

[BRP]

bull shark testosterone from chile

[Bearsan]

Mr_Angry from forum.bodybuilding.com says don't take supplements:

So im driving down the street toay and i see my old gym teacher walking past, he musta gained 60lbs, fat as **** now. Back in school he always thought he was hot sh1t cause he was in Vietnam , reckon he killed a couple Vietish guys with his bare hands, aint noone believed that b1tchs stories.

Remembered when i was in school, every gym class he was always talking sh1t about me infront of everyone else cause i totally out jacked his ass. Hed be giving a lecture about nutrition n sh1t, started telling the class people who take proteisn end up dying on a machine 20 years later and hes like "im all natural" n starts flexing his weak ass old man arms. Next day rumors going round school that im somekinda protein pussy, when your the most jacked teen in the city people think you must be chuging down all kinds of shit,


He got my ass suspended for two weeks too cause i turned up for class sore as **** one time from my 3hour jack session and hes like "get the hell up here" telling me to do some pussy exercise. I aint got time for that shit so i tell him to get someone else and hes all "big but weak, i thought so" so im like "id kick your ass son". Class is damn near off the scale rioting now, wanna see me wreck him on the mats.

He tells me to go for it, trying to stare me down thinks im gonna back down like a b1tch, so i step up and we start tusslin infront of the class, people r like "kick his ****ing ass" and cheering me on. I wasnt even breaking a sweat, hes puffing gonna have a damn heart attack or some sh1t. He tries his weak ass army moves on me but he aint never faced no 220lb vietish soldier before and he cant get me to the ground. Im like "come on old man" class is laughing their damn asses off n hes about to collapse so i grab holda his shirt and tossed his ass over my head onto the mat.

Hes laying on the floor, coughing his ass off, damnear knocked out n the class has gone ****ing insane, they were sick of his sh1t too. Theyre hollering and shouting when some gym assistant guy comes running in wanna know what the **** all the noise is about. Next thing im infront of the principle, gym teacher tells him i jumped him in class ni got my my ass suspended.

Crew found out and was like "hell no he craxy messing wit us,he wanna die?". That night they waited in the school carpark balaclavered up n beat his ass down with a bat when he came out. Put his ass in hospital for a month.

When i got back to shool we gotta new HB10 woman gym teacher fresh outta college, didnt see hisass again. Turned drunk or sum shit i heard.

So last saturday morning im in the gym, tearing up the 200lb dumbells and the gym manager comes over and starts giving me sh1t about snapping sum bars squating n sh1t. Hes like "those bars werent built to handle that kinda weight" so i tell him "your face wasnt built to handle my 18's" so he backs off like a pussy and goes back to his desk.

Im half way into my 5 hourr routine, musta had about half a ton over my head when some guy in a cheap assed suit comes over. His glasses damn near cracked seeing me shifting some serious pounds. Im like "what the **** u want son?" and hes all sorry n sh1t for bustin in on my session. He tells me hes from some huge ass company, they heard about me, how im serious sh1t in the muscle world, they had to send someone down to check on this polish revolution.


Hes all ike "we want you to back our new supplment" so i throw down the weights and tell him "go find a protein pussy, im natural jacked" but hes all grinin n sh1t telling me their new blend is 100% prtoeins free, meant for professional athletes like me. Tells me hes got a quarter mil in his briefcase and a first class ticket to the labs to do some testing n sh1t, see if im on board.

Flew out to the lab thst night, some kind nasa sh1t, they got pictures of me all over the walls, studying my jacked frame, wanna know how my muscles work. Hook me up to sum machines, testing my strength, scene like right outta Rocky 4 except i aint no fake ass actor, .Went off the scale on every damn test, got f@gs in white coats running all over the place, alarms going off everywhere, musta blown the computers or sum sh1t, they aint built to calculate muscle this dense. One guys tries to xray my biceps, see how deep these diamond cuts go, problem is the pussy assed xrays cant pass through my fibras, turns out my body is like a piece of lead, theyaint never seen sh1t like this before,

ABout an hour later and they bring me some samples, got my face on the container, marketing knew my polska good looks will help shift a couple hundred million boxes of this sh1t. Comes in two flavors, vanilla and jack daniels. Im like "this sh1t work?" and the management starts laughing "hell, no, its just grounded up bones n sh1t, meant for pussys with weak ass genetics who cant grow muscles natural" Me n the directors hollering for a good 20 mins at the thought of those b1tches who buy this sh1t thinking they gonna get jacked. just a pay day to me though son.

Signed a couple hundred autographs for the directors n workers, got in a quick bicep workout then flew the **** home with another 2 mil.

But in all seriousness, go to http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1 to find out more about creatine and any other supplements that you are curious about. People post numerous first hand accounts of their experiences with almost every supplement, and you can see logs of their work out progress.

[Plow]

after reading all these people talking about being around 6 foot and weighing less than 150, my mind hurts from thinking about people calling girls in the fod thread anorexic

That weight and height is not underweight according to those BMI whatever tests, its actually closer to the middle of whatever the section is called between under and overweight

I was 5'10 185 with extremely low bodyfat when I was 13 years old... I broke my jaw had it wired shut for 6 weeks dropped to 150 and was like a stick figure...

I'm now 6'2 with a bit of a beer belly and no other visible fat and weigh 220ish. If I was 2 inches shorter and 70 pounds lighter I would look like sickly thin. I've got some broad shoulders but still, 6' 150 is skiiiinnnny.

[Blarg]

after reading all these people talking about being around 6 foot and weighing less than 150, my mind hurts from thinking about people calling girls in the fod thread anorexic

That weight and height is not underweight according to those BMI whatever tests, its actually closer to the middle of whatever the section is called between under and overweight

I was 5'10 185 with extremely low bodyfat when I was 13 years old... I broke my jaw had it wired shut for 6 weeks dropped to 150 and was like a stick figure...

I'm now 6'2 with a bit of a beer belly and no other visible fat and weigh 220ish. If I was 2 inches shorter and 70 pounds lighter I would look like sickly thin. I've got some broad shoulders but still, 6' 150 is skiiiinnnny.

Broad shoulders is probably it, that adds a lot of weight. I probably only weigh like 145 and am skinny, (I guess im 5 10 to 6 foot, never really measured the past few years) but very athletic. I have a friend who is same height but has broader shoulders and weighs 40-50 lbs more than I do and doesn't look chubby. 5 10 and 130lbs would be very skinny but adding just 10 or so pounds to a already low weight means a lot.

[Norelco]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com

Ask there, they're more likely to help you out.

EDIT: Beaten to the punch. But yeah...good website.

[Quixon]

I'm now 6'2 with a bit of a beer belly and no other visible fat and weigh 220ish.

Ya I'm about the same frame as you. I'm 6'2 209LBS.


I took Creatine when I first really started hitting the gym 3 years ago. I plateu'd out like an above poster said. It's really a frustrating experience, especially when you're in the gym 5-6 days a week.

I was taking Creatine and Muscle Milk back then. I didn't really research anything though which was kind of retarded. I just went into GNC and bought creatine monohydrate and a form of protein (muscle milk), and followed the directions on the containers.... which isn't always correct.

I'm going to take a look at the link above. Might get back into creatine/protein now.

[Seditedi]

Yea I'm 170 and about 6 feet tall.
I do alot of cardio too, so maybe I should just take that down a bit and increase lifting.

As for the question about the WWE look, lol.
I don't wanna be huge, just a little bit bigger.

[Norelco]

I'm now 6'2 with a bit of a beer belly and no other visible fat and weigh 220ish.

Ya I'm about the same frame as you. I'm 6'2 209LBS.


I took Creatine when I first really started hitting the gym 3 years ago. I plateu'd out like an above poster said. It's really a frustrating experience, especially when you're in the gym 5-6 days a week.

I'm 6'2 208.

Really...I hear the best thing to do when you plateau is just keep doing what you're doing. It's bound to break.

[Exoduso]

after reading all these people talking about being around 6 foot and weighing less than 150, my mind hurts from thinking about people calling girls in the fod thread anorexic

That weight and height is not underweight according to those BMI whatever tests, its actually closer to the middle of whatever the section is called between under and overweight

I was 5'10 185 with extremely low bodyfat when I was 13 years old... I broke my jaw had it wired shut for 6 weeks dropped to 150 and was like a stick figure...

I'm now 6'2 with a bit of a beer belly and no other visible fat and weigh 220ish. If I was 2 inches shorter and 70 pounds lighter I would look like sickly thin. I've got some broad shoulders but still, 6' 150 is skiiiinnnny.

Broad shoulders is probably it, that adds a lot of weight. I probably only weigh like 145 and am skinny, (I guess im 5 10 to 6 foot, never really measured the past few years) but very athletic. I have a friend who is same height but has broader shoulders and weighs 40-50 lbs more than I do and doesn't look chubby. 5 10 and 130lbs would be very skinny but adding just 10 or so pounds to a already low weight means a lot.

That's pretty much it. When I was playing soccer in HS, I was about 130 pounds and very skinny. Now i'm getting closer to 150, and those 20 pounds are all muscle pretty much so it looks good, but I do want to get bigger than that. I doubt i'd want to go over 160 though, and for a 5'10" I think it's pretty good.

[wintersquall]

srsly, eat a cheeseburger people.

if you want to gain mass - do what you're doing and get stronger. the stronger you are, the more mass you can lift - allowing you to bulk up. it's pretty simple.

as far as supplements. they are COMPLETELY unecessary as long as you have your diet sorted. natural is the way to go if you want to keep the mass as well as have the optino to lose it later without problems. and btw i'm 5'8" and 170 lbs, and i'm nowhere near overweight. these guys talking about 6 ft+ and 150-160 must be underdeveloped somehow.