Creatine use

[dritero]

http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

This will give you an estimation of the calories you need to eat in a day to maintain your weight. Eat 500 more calories a day than this and you should gain about 1lb per week.

I wouldn't even look at supplements until you know for sure diet alone can't do it (except protein powder of course). I stopped taking creatine in April, so my body can be as lean as possible for summer.

[Woozie]

You guys are so...light...

I'm only 5'8" and I weight 175 pounds. I'm definitely not fat, and I'm only slightly muscular. I'm actually trying to put on weight, but I did metabolic testing a few weeks ago and found out that I burn 2,500 calories per day if I rest all day, and much more on my workout days <_> I love eating but having to eat nearly (or over) 3k calories on some days is too much.

[Shuemue]

Mr. Wenger says Creatine is A-OK.

[Nystul]

isn't the actual research on creatine pretty suspect? Like there isn't any real hard evidence that taking the suppliment actually benefits you? Maybe I'm confusing it with something else.

Regardless, I don't think you will start taking this stuff and *poof* end up huge. You could probably just work out, switch your routine up (muscles get acclimated to workouts causing the plateau) on a more frequent basis, go for higher weight/low rep more often and save your money. That creatine shit isn't cheap, and if you only want to be a bit bigger, why blow your money on it?

[Denchi]

You have the understand that people are built differently lol. No matter how hard I work, I'm never going to be as big as some of you guys, just because I have a light/athletic build.

Chris Sharma (One the strongest/best rock climbers in the world) is 6'0" 160. And he is RIPPED. That's only 10lbs heavier than me. Many of the people i see fighting in the UFC are my height and near my weight and kicking the shit out of people.

And then you have Lebron James. It's just body type. It's probably as hard for me to gain weight as it is for a lot of people to lose it.

[*Shinzon*]

If you don't work out enough, Creatine will hurt you more than it will help. You'll gain weight and it'll just turn to fat if you don't work out enough to burn off what you take in. Its unnecessary according to most casual people who go to the gym to stay in shape.

[Exoduso]

You have the understand that people are built differently lol. No matter how hard I work, I'm never going to be as big as some of you guys, just because I have a light/athletic build.

Exactly. Some people's bones weigh a lot more than others', for example. I'm 5'10", 150 (yup, about time lol) and i'm definitely not anorexic. I've put on quite a bit of muscle, but my stomach is still flat (thanks to all the goddamn running and my metabolism). I hardly think i'm underweight though, on the contrary.

[Chips]

You guys are so...light...

I'm only 5'8" and I weight 175 pounds. I'm definitely not fat, and I'm only slightly muscular. I'm actually trying to put on weight, but I did metabolic testing a few weeks ago and found out that I burn 2,500 calories per day if I rest all day, and much more on my workout days <_> I love eating but having to eat nearly (or over) 3k calories on some days is too much.

Not fair, black people's muscle mass weighs more

[Beckwin]

I'm a hair over 6' and weigh around 175 lbs. My frame could definitely support more weight (another 10 to 15 easy; 210 would probably be the max for still being in good shape) but frankly I don't find a need to add weight if it isn't healthy and I don't fancy 2 hour workouts every day/other day. I feel pretty good about where I'm at now; I only work out to stay healthy and make slow improvements to being fitter with what I have.

[Chips]

I'm a hair over 6' and weigh around 175 lbs. My frame could definitely support more weight (another 10 to 15 easy; 210 would probably be the max for still being in good shape) but frankly I don't find a need to add weight if it isn't healthy and I don't fancy 2 hour workouts every day/other day. I feel pretty good about where I'm at now; I only work out to stay healthy and make slow improvements to being fitter with what I have.

Most studies show that you should spend a max of one hour in the gym (not including outside cardio you might be working on).

[Jefe]

^Ugh I'm as skinny as that dude's avatar (5.6, 110 lbs.) and I've been trying to gain some weight for like a year. I just can't eat 2k of fuking calories a day though ;( What are some good protein/vitamin shakes w/e to boost the calories? Do I just walk in and get w/e, what should I look for? ;x

I don't want to become a fatso, just gain liek 10 moar lbs.

[Exoduso]

2k? I need to eat 3k and even that's not enough sometimes because my metabolism won't allow me to gain weight. >.<

[Woozie]

2k? I need to eat 3k and even that's not enough sometimes because my metabolism won't allow me to gain weight. >.<

Yeah, that's my problem lol

To answer your question, Meteora, you could try weight gainer? I've never tried it before and I don't even know what's in it, so you'd better research it before you try it. As far as I know, it's just protein sugar. They have like 500-1000 calories per serving, I think.

Like I said, I never tried it before, so if someone else reads my post and says weight gainer is a bad idea, listen to them.

[Denchi]

I looked at weight gainer once... it's insane.

You buy a whole bucket of weight gainer for $40 and it's like 3 servings, you eat 1/3 of the fucking bucket. I don't understand it........ I don't know why anyone would waste that type of money on that crap

[Nystul]

I looked at weight gainer once... it's insane.

You buy a whole bucket of weight gainer for $40 and it's like 3 servings, you eat 1/3 of the fucking bucket. I don't understand it........ I don't know why anyone would waste that type of money on that crap

This reminds me of this time I was walking to campus, and while waiting to cross the road there was this car in front of me. 4 door sedan. The only person in the car was the driver, which is good because the entire back seat area was filled with trash. Not like...stuff, but literally trash. Mostly fast food bags/wrappers etc. To the point where he couldn't use his rear view mirror. Front passenger seat was not so overrun but it was well on it's way.

The driver was a balding, late 30's guy, clearly chubby in that sort of...George Costanza way- belly, squat, but not a mouth breathing fatass- He was wearing mismatched sweat pants, and in his lap was a big bottle of that creatine stuff, and he had a big table spoon and he was just shoveling spoonfulls into his mouth behind the wheel.

The light changed before I could snap a picture and he was gone. Down the road, driving off into his heart-attack laden future.

[Norelco]

I looked at weight gainer once... it's insane.

You buy a whole bucket of weight gainer for $40 and it's like 3 servings, you eat 1/3 of the fucking bucket. I don't understand it........ I don't know why anyone would waste that type of money on that crap

This reminds me of this time I was walking to campus, and while waiting to cross the road there was this car in front of me. 4 door sedan. The only person in the car was the driver, which is good because the entire back seat area was filled with trash. Not like...stuff, but literally trash. Mostly fast food bags/wrappers etc. To the point where he couldn't use his rear view mirror. Front passenger seat was not so overrun but it was well on it's way.

The driver was a balding, late 30's guy, clearly chubby in that sort of...George Costanza way- belly, squat, but not a mouth breathing fatass- He was wearing mismatched sweat pants, and in his lap was a big bottle of that creatine stuff, and he had a big table spoon and he was just shoveling spoonfulls into his mouth behind the wheel.

The light changed before I could snap a picture and he was gone. Down the road, driving off into his heart-attack laden future.

lol, you should be a writer. you had me at "mouth breathing fatass"

[RakEx]

Creatine isn't really used for muscle gain its more for energy at the gym. Weight that you do gain from taking Creatine would be mostly water retention which makes your muscles appear larger but in fact they really are not. If you stopped taking it you would deflate quickly because the water would leave your body. If you want to take small supplements to increase energy levels while at the gym it is ok but there are other ways to do that. Coffee etc. I personally use Powerbars, they give me a little kick of energy before starting my workout.

I used Creatine briefly in High School and I didnt not like the effect it had on by body. It made me shake and just not feel healthy at all. So I stopped using it. The only other supplement I have used since then is Myoplex Mass Deluxe variety pack. My intentions were too get bigger quickly and take a protein type supplement that didnt taste horrible. I was really happy with the results (10-15lbs in 2 months @the cost of $150 going to the gym 4-5 times a week) and kind of miss taking it actually, I may start again soon. The key with most supplements these days is the amount of Glutamine they have in them. Glutamine is really the best supplement for muscle building atm. It helps you muscles recover and heal quicker from the tearing that wight lifting causes.

Lastly 6'0 170 is about average imo. If you are under that, like 165 or less, you are a skinny wimp, again just my opinion. I like to add 5lbs or so for every inch taller than that you are, so 6'2 average is about 180 etc etc. I know everyone is built differently and this is not scientific but its just the way i see it after having trained and trained with various types of people.

[Norelco]

The key with most supplements these days is the amount of Glutamine they have in them. Glutamine is really the best supplement for muscle building atm. It helps you muscles recover and heal quicker from the tearing that wight lifting causes.

Really? I'll need to look into this. I've recently gotten serious about lifting again and I'm looking for something to speed up the healing process of sore and stuff muscles.

Edit: apparently the cottage cheese I eat is rich in glutamine. I usually eat cottage cheese on lifting days. Interesting.

[Denchi]

Creatine isn't really used for muscle gain its more for energy at the gym. Weight that you do gain from taking Creatine would be mostly water retention which makes your muscles appear larger but in fact they really are not. If you stopped taking it you would deflate quickly because the water would leave your body. If you want to take small supplements to increase energy levels while at the gym it is ok but there are other ways to do that. Coffee etc. I personally use Powerbars, they give me a little kick of energy before starting my workout.

I used Creatine briefly in High School and I didnt not like the effect it had on by body. It made me shake and just not feel healthy at all. So I stopped using it. The only other supplement I have used since then is Myoplex Mass Deluxe variety pack. My intentions were too get bigger quickly and take a protein type supplement that didnt taste horrible. I was really happy with the results (10-15lbs in 2 months @the cost of $150 going to the gym 4-5 times a week) and kind of miss taking it actually, I may start again soon. The key with most supplements these days is the amount of Glutamine they have in them. Glutamine is really the best supplement for muscle building atm. It helps you muscles recover and heal quicker from the tearing that wight lifting causes.

Lastly 6'0 170 is about average imo. If you are under that, like 165 or less, you are a skinny wimp, again just my opinion. I like to add 5lbs or so for every inch taller than that you are, so 6'2 average is about 180 etc etc. I know everyone is built differently and this is not scientific but its just the way i see it after having trained and trained with various types of people.

So the best, strongest, most proven rock climber in the world is a skinny wimp?

[RakEx]

So the best, strongest, most proven rock climber in the world is a skinny wimp?

Yep.